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I get that many of us will see all the recent references about NealFire differently.
Some will see it as A&E finally acknowledging his death and firmly cementing in concrete.
Some will see it as a foreshadowing of things to come with a possibility of resurrecting NealFire.
However, what I don’t get is how something so important as Isaac saying that a quill & ink can, in fact, change the past it has created can be overlooked and discounted so easily.
Those words were extremely important and they literally made me stop and say “Woah!” out loud. It’s a game changer and I don’t think A&E would have thrown those words out so cavalierly. Not when they themselves have said this finale is a game changer.
The biggest snag of any Neal returning theories is MRJ’s lack of availability. They know he’s attached to another show (“Game of Silence), which just got a series pickup last night actually, so they can’t be planning to bring him back when they know they can’t get the actor back. Theoretically they could be writing in mind that “Game of Silence” could fail, and make MRJ available again, but that’s still not a sure thing, and MRJ could book more projects after that. Now the other option would be bringing Baelfire back in a de-aged form with Dylan returning, but I have my doubts they’ll even do that. And this is the 2nd finale in a row that’s dodged an opportunity to bring him back. During Emma and Hook’s time travelling escapes last year, Rumple suggested to Emma that he could prevent Neal’s death, but Emma insisted that he couldn’t take his heroic sacrifice away from him and that Rumple had to drink the forgetting potion he cooked up. Many viewed the scene as out of character for Rumple, but because the writers refused to bring his son back, they had to write it as is. And now Rumple is reinforcing that “magic can’t bring back the dead”, which Isaac nodded and agreed with. I’m with Phee and RG that this was just their way of addressing the elephant in the room.
[adrotate group="5"]Yup, because really, what else would they have to do with her? They barely use her already, and if Rumple goes there’ll be even less ways for them to make her relevant to whatever story is going on. So send her off to see the world as her happily ever after because that’s what she always wanted to do, even before she met Rumple, and if Rumple’s funding it, he’s still a part of making her dreams come true. It would suck for people who want to see them back together, (and believe me I know how much that sucks because been there, still doing that), but I think they’ve written themselves into a bit of a corner, and that would be a logical way to conclude things.
And it’s obvious that ScarletBeauty is only temporary. Even if they did initially have plans to go further with it, I have my doubts they will due to how much backlash they’ve gotten over it.
Bumping this up in case anyone wants to get a last minute vote in still.
Also, just throwing it out there on the off chance it happens I can say I called it
– I reckon he’s gonna die and then Belle’s gonna inherit his wealth and use it to go off and see the world like she always dreamed.Because if Rumple leaves the show, then you imagine they’ll write a way for Belle to leave, too? Guess that would make sense.
MRJ fans will be glad to know that NBC has officially picked up “Game of Silence” as a series:
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2015/05/08/nbc-orders-dramas-game-of-silence-the-player/401464/
Except for the three genies magical law breaking spell.
Are the genies even an option anymore? Nyx’s curse on Cyrus and his brothers was broken, and now Jafar appears to be the only genie enslaved by her. I have my doubts the spell works with just one genie now. Plus, all of Jafar’s magic law breaking actions were easily undone after his defeat.
Going to have to disagree with your interpretations of my logic
1) There have been far too many mentions of Nealfire over the last few episodes for them to merely be acknowledging his loss. They could have done that long ago. The outcries from most fans about Neal’s death have long subsided and rather than ruffle those feathers again, I’m sure they’d know it’s best to let sleeping dogs lie. If they are bringing him back into the limelight, they got something up their sleeves.
2) There’s a reason Rumple told Robin that he didn’t identify with Neal as his son as Neal’s existence had been far too painful & lonely. I don’t believe for a moment that they were writing that so that Nealfire fans would accept his death. They are setting a story up for the future with Bae. They’ve been known to do this season’s in advance with LOST.
3) Had they really wanted to put closure on Nealfire they would have had Isaac say that NO quill or ink could rewrite the past. He didn’t. They have left the door open for the possibility of the quill & ink that created Rumple’s past to come back into play at some point. They’ve given us an actual loophole to the rule that magic can’t bring back the dead.
4) No scenes were more stirring than the potential reunion of father & son in The Return and again in Manhattan. RumFire reunions are the most emotional of all. They know this and I believe this is their ‘fireworks’ for the show’s finale.
5) If this author can change what he wrote, how do we know that there isn’t an author writing this author’s story and everyone else’s? He could always do revisions and change the direction of everyone’s course.
They are taking us into un-chartered territories with S5. New game, new rules. I will not close my mind to the possibilities, especially now that they’ve shown us a loophole. This loophole is a golden nugget to theorize with.
If I’m wrong, feel free to toss stale crackers at me BUT if I’m right, I think a box of cookies is more than appropriate.
According to Natalie Abrams, one of the journalists who have screened the finale, we can rule out Neal/Baelfire coming back in the finale at the very least. Sorry:
Though many fans wished the Author rewrite could mean the resurrection of Baelfire, there is a very plausible explanation why that can’t happen—though he is brought up more than once.
Source: http://www.ew.com/article/2015/05/08/spoiler-room-scoop-once-bates-motel-castle-and-more
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heyjedikitty: Are we ever going to find out why Wil left Wonderland and Ana ? Or is my understanding of the timeline messed up ?
Sorry, but Will isn’t even in the finale.I really think they mispoke, because Will is clearly there during Robin and Zelena’s wedding, and I doubt that’s a scene they cut out. Wonder if Will is just so much in the background that they forgot he was there.
– I reckon he’s gonna die and then Belle’s gonna inherit his wealth and use it to go off and see the world like she always dreamed.