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MatthewPaul
ModeratorBut my point is, magical rules are not insurmountable or impossible to overcome. There’s always a loop hole! For Pete’s sake, Zelena’s time-travel spell worked, even though it’s against the laws of magic! There’s always a loop-hole!
Well, there’s only a loophole when it’s convenient. I would think if there was a loophole to bring Baelfire back, then Rumple would have been on top of that a long time ago.
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ModeratorThat’s not what I took from the conversation. Rumple: “Magic can’t bring back the dead.” Isaac: “No, it can’t. THIS quill and ink CAN only CHANGE a past IT has created.”
Isaac just admitted that his quill & ink can change the past of any story it created. It just can’t change Rumple’s because they were never used to write his story hundreds of years ago. We know how carefully Adam & Eddie choose their word and there’s a reason why they’ve told us Isaac isn’t the author who wrote Rumple & Bae’s original story. They are up to something.
Surely they know how the fans feel about Baelfire and they showed us that Bae is Rumple’s true happy ending. I can’t help but seeing Bae as the end game in Rumple’s story. They are setting it up.
But the Author isn’t supposed to change things. That was what got Isaac imprisoned in the first place. And going back to the original Rumple and Baelfire story and changing it would risk retconning way too much of what’s already happened on the show, which I don’t think is a risk the writers want to take. In the commentary for last year’s finale, Adam and Eddy mentioned how they had to painstakenly make sure most of the continuity still lined up from the time travel, and doing so made them admit that they never want to do time travel again. And based on set photos from the finale, Isaac and Rumple’s story clearly gets undone.
MatthewPaul
ModeratorDon’t think it works that way, because Rumple and Isaac seemed to imply that the Author still had to abide by the laws of magic.
Which we’ve seen can be broken, ad nauseam, as in the examples I provided already.
Those examples had their loopholes, whether you like them or not. Phillip had his soul removed, but Cora clearly mentioned how souls could be restored. Blue had her shadow ripped out and killing Pan’s shadow reverted that. With Maleficent they established that Regina put a preservation form on her, so she was never completely dead. Rumple is the Dark One with its own set of rules, and he never died the traditional way of having somebody else stab him with the dagger. And Rumple’s resurrection came at the cost of Neal’s death. Zelena stated that she never actually died, and Rumple only assumed that she did. Zelena was a case of thinking she was dead, when she never died in the first place, like what happened with Blackbeard, so that technically does not break the rule. The most handwavy examples are Charming and Anastasia. Charming should have died via a heart crush, but maybe there’s a cost to sharing a heart that we have yet to see. Like if Snow dies, maybe Charming would have to die along with her. It was a gamble to attempt it in the first place, and maybe it doesn’t work for just anyone, because Snow and Charming have been presented as the show’s ultimate true love couple. Anastasia was Nyx making an exception, possibly as repayment for stopping Jafar and restoring the water. Point is, you can’t just open up the possibility of just anybody being resurrected, because what happens to the stakes when you can just bring anybody back from the dead? I agree that the above loopholes are annoying, but you do have to draw the line somewhere.
MatthewPaul
ModeratorOk, so this Author’s quill and ink can only change the past that it created and A&E have confirmed that Isaac did not write Rumple & Bae’s earlier story. For me that says that there’s still hope for the future. If the quill and ink used to originally write Rumple & Bae’s past still exists somewhere, surely they can be used again to change Rumple & Bae’s past.
Don’t think it works that way, because Rumple and Isaac seemed to imply that the Author still had to abide by the laws of magic.
MatthewPaul
ModeratorThere’s more magic to come! #OnceUponATime returns for Season 5! pic.twitter.com/xnutEWRoma
— Once Upon A Time (@OnceABC) May 8, 2015
MatthewPaul
ModeratorSo looks like my theory that the Author is only altering memories and personalities, while not technically undoing the past, is accurate. And yep, he can’t bring back the dead.
MatthewPaul
ModeratorLooks like the spinoff is not happening. My guess is it was between renewing Agent Carter or greenlighting the spinoff, and they chose Carter:
MatthewPaul
ModeratorAhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Jumping up and down! Happy news!!!! Season 2 for #Galavant is a go!!!!!!!! Ahhh! Can't wait to… http://t.co/O9QGp3fckA
— KarenDavid (@KarenDavid) May 8, 2015
If there was a moment for a reprise, I guess this would be it #season2 #Galavantseason2 #RenewGalavant #herewegoagain
— Joshua Sasse (@joshuasasse) May 8, 2015
MatthewPaul
ModeratorGalavant was renewed, too. Chances are, it will be OUAT’s mid-Season filler yet again:
http://www.ew.com/article/2015/05/07/galavant-scores-surprising-renewal-abc
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