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August 19, 2014 at 11:15 pm in reply to: TVLine August 19: Elizabeth Mitchell and Henry in S4 #280457
MatthewPaul
ModeratorI could see that. As long as his crush isn’t a thing Emma knew all about because then it’d feel like a topic that should have come up back when Henry wanted to go back to NYC and it’ll kinda bug me that it didn’t. Lily’s description does sound like a potential New Yorker.
Agreed, because I was actually thinking about Emma’s conversation with Regina in “Witch Hunt”, where she tells Regina that Henry doesn’t have any girlfriends yet.
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ModeratorEmma with a gun, about to chase after Elizabeth Mitchell #ouat #preview pic.twitter.com/ksKk9SdJL2
— opus (@opustwelve) August 20, 2014
MatthewPaul
Moderator#OnceUponATime star Jennifer Morrison having a bit of hair trouble. #OUAT pic.twitter.com/Ji0FMb7FNM
— Canadagraphs 🇺🇦 (@canadagraphs) August 20, 2014
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Moderator#OnceUponATime shooting scenes right now w/ Jennifer Morrison and Elizabeth Mitchell in her new wardrobe #OUAT pic.twitter.com/D0e8IJZNqq
— Canadagraphs 🇺🇦 (@canadagraphs) August 20, 2014
MatthewPaul
ModeratorPersonally, I would love it if they could cast Paige O’Hara (who voiced Belle in the movie) or Susan Egan (who played Belle in the Broadway musical).
Paige O’Hara

Susan Egan

MatthewPaul
ModeratorGotta say I’m stunned Zoso appears to be returning after so long. Not that I’m complaining. More mythology building of previously established characters is a nice thing to see.
MatthewPaul
ModeratorStorybrooke Mirror superimposed the script tease, to see some of the page underneath.

Not much to look at, but whatever.
MatthewPaul
ModeratorNotes from more of the commentaries:
The first scenes in Neverland with most of the main characters were meant to set the tone of each character for the rest of the season. Special mentions to Emma accepting Mary Margaret as her mother and Hook/Emma flirtations.
The “wax moustaches and perms” joke was to set the tone for their interpretation of Hook and Pan.
Pan and Emma’s first interaction was to set the tone of all his interactions between Emma, Regina, Snow etc.
Flashbacks were to show new elements of the characters i.e. Charming was not always trusted by the dwarfs.
Snow is someone who is full of hope – it was interesting to see her doubting herself.
Neverland was an emotional arc about Emma learning who she is – parallels to Snow learning more about herself in flashbacks.
“Neverland was a bit like therapy island” because Peter Pan makes you confront your past. Mr. Gold in particular struggled with that.
‘Who doesn’t want to see Grumpy accuse Charming of being a gold digger”
Charming/Rumple scenes are fun to write.
Belle is a very important character because of what she means to Rumplestiltskin. She is the one character who sees him for who he is.
There is a timeline outside the writers room to show what flashbacks have been shown and when so they don’t contradict things that have already happened.
They had fun with the Regina teaching Emma magic arc throughout the season.
The scene on the log with Emma and MM was originally written to be Emma and Hook but they changed it as they thought this was more poignant. The theme of the episode showing Snow/Emma being in similar situations made more emotional sense. Emma still has pain from when her parents left her. Pan is essentially putting a wedge between Emma and her parents. Compliments to Ginny and Jennifer.
Pan did not expect Emma and her parents to work past these feelings.
Excalibur giving Snow belief in herself is compared to Dumbo’s feather making him believe he can fly.
“Perhaps we will go to Camelot one day”.
Emma has her guard up at this stage with Hook. She starts to see him as more than just a pirate throughout the Neverland arc. “Perhaps I would” – Hook is earnestly showing his interest in Emma but it will take some episodes before this can move forward.
Was interesting to see Snow and Charming so in sync by the end of their flashback in this episode but not in present day story.Robert was very happy with the casting for young Rumple – Wyatt reminds him of himself and his son.
Stephen Lord had prepared a Scottish accent but they decided not to use it for his character.
There were originally three spinsters that spoke one word at a time but it was decided it would be too complicated.
Robert was very happy with Wyatt and his Scottish accent.
Robert compares Malcolm leaving Rumple, Rumple leaving Bae and Neal leaving Emma.
A lot of joking about Neverland actually being 10×10 yards.
“Not going in there with nothing but my good looks” is one of Robert’s favourite lines.
Some of Robert’s favourite scenes are on the green screen stage.
Emotional payback: in episode 4 Neal didn’t believe Rumple had given up his dagger/shadow and he sees at skull rock that he was telling the truth.
It was extremely difficult to hide the fact he does still have a shadow.
Robert and Robbie were the only cast members that knew about Peter Pan being Rumple’s dad. Crew members didn’t know either.
Full of praise for Robbie Kay.
Robert draws emotion for Rumples scenes with the doll his dad gave him from when he was younger. He went to the cinema to see the Aristocats with his dad and there were dolls of the cats playing guitars that he really liked. Even though his family did not have a lot of money his dad bought one for him and he treasured it for many years.
“It’s very dark inside that box”.Notes were already posted from the 317 and 322 commentaries, but I found a direct quote that Eddy Kitsis said. Warning, very ship heavy material
“The very first time she met Hook, we knew that Hook reminded her of Neal, and that she kind of saw “Here’s someone I could potentially have feelings for” that she suppressed for a very very long time.
And I think that seeing (her parents fall in love) and the happiness is making her realize that maybe love is something to risk for, even though she’s been hurt so many times.And I think one of the great things about the relationship between Emma and Hook Is that Hook understands Emma’s talents, and he understands her emotions a lot, and he’s there to be supportive.
He knows that he himself probably can get them out; this is going to require magic. And he knows Emma enough to know that she’s denying it because it’s a part of her. A lot of what this arc has been about is Emma accepting who she is and being ok with that.This is a couple who have definitely had chemistry since they climbed the beanstalk. And for us, Emma has always really pushed Hook off, I think, deep down she knows this is someone she could actually fall for.
And every time she’s fallen for someone, they’ve hurt her. And the way Emma has survived her whole life has been by keeping those walls up.When he tells her that he gave up his ship, the thing she knows he loves most , just for the opportunity to see her again Emma’s touched by it and says “All right, you know what, I’m gonna try and stop preventing myself from feeling things.”
You know they’ve had their moments of chemistry before they had their kiss in Neverland and they’ve had their flirtations here or there, but this is the first time that Emma has really let those walls down.”
MatthewPaul
ModeratorA hi-res version of the Anna and Elsa pic from a few posts back is now up via TVGuide:

MatthewPaul
ModeratorHigh quality version of the bloopers. Can’t directly embed the video, because it’s on Tumblr.
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