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And I’m beginning to like August and the main reason is because he is far from perfect. This actually makes him human, which is kind of ironic considering the fact that he is in fact a wooden doll.
He did act selfishly, but let’s face it, children are selfish and concentrated on their own needs. He was a seven- year-old boy who found himself in a strange, hostile environment without the father he loved. When he was to choose between the group of children more or less his age, who he thought would help him survive and give him some support and the infant he barely knew, he chose the former. I think it was a natural thing to do.
So what he did as a child I wouldn’t judge so harshly.[adrotate group="5"]mickeyParticipantI’m not convinced about this one. I think in the last episode they showed us that Gold is ready to put his walls down, at least a bit. He began to realise how lonely he actually is and that it is impossible to live like this in the long run. Earlier he didn’t allow himself to think about it. It was only when he was going through an emotionally tough situation that he needed human contact.
The scenes where people kept asking him if he’s there for the rent were very funny, but at the same time somehow sad. They made him realise that there is noone he has connected to so far in SB, and that realisation shook him, I think.mickeyParticipant“Don’t back down just to keep the peace. Standing up for your beliefs builds self-confidence and self-esteem.” ( Oprah Winfrey)
I just don’t understand why we should back away from certain topics.
Some posters tried to give reasons earlier why they find the character sympathetic. Not everyone has to agree with their reasoning, but their explanation seemed logical and solid.
Were their points argued plausibly? No. They got completely brushed off with a claim that the only reason why they find sympathy for the character is his gender. I didn’t like the comment and I made it clear. I am not going to apologize for it.mickeyParticipantIt all depends whether the curse is broken this season or not. If it is, then, I think, the main focus of the show will be shifted to something else, and such characters as Emma or Henry might not be of that importance in season 2.
mickeyParticipantWell, it’s an assumption, not a real argument. An assumption based on the belief that we are all, I don’t know, sexists here and that’s why we choose to take a broader perspective of the character than you? I could easily reverse it and say that I assume that the only reason you are so harsh for Rumple is because he’s a man. And that would count for as much.
I don’t think Rumple was evil before the curse. Other posters tried to prove why in previous threads many times, they didn’t just give opinions or interpretations but made references to actual scenes from the series. But it was like banging their heads on the wall, I guess. You still don’t see anything good in Rumple pre- or after-curse. My conlusion is that maybe you don’t want to see anything good in him. Your mind about this character is set. He’s evil. That’s it.
If that’s the case, then what’s the point of you discussing the character in the first place?mickeyParticipantI think I feel the need to defend Rumple because he tends to be described from a one-sided and judgmental perspective. He’s presented as the one who is evil, has always been evil and will always stay evil. There is nothing good about him. Period. I just refuse to view life in general that way. I think we don’t really deal so much with evil or good as we do with the in-between. It’s the in-between that makes our lives interesting, I think.
I believe that people may do things we do not approve of or the ones we think we would never do. But that doesn’t mean that we can deny them the right to rehabilitate. So that right shouldn’t be taken away from the villains of the show either.
And the last reason is I just hate a one-dimensional take on fictional characters. One-dimensional means boring and predictable to me. I want to see the characters change, grow through both positive and negative experience, but God forbid stay always the same.mickeyParticipantWell, love for a child is something different for sure. It’s unconditional. But if he finds Bae a grown-up man and assuming they reconcile, then their relationship will be bound to change. I mean Bae will have his own life, it won’t be like it used to be they hanging around together everywhere. Rumple might have some problems accepting it at first.
So that’s why there would definitely be room for a woman in his life, someone to share his life with.mickeyParticipantI think they are referring to the scene with Regina and the apple tree here. She will die but it will turn out to be a dream.
They say in the last three episodes, which means probably not in the season finale. If we look at the titles of the episodes Apples Red as Blood looks like the episode in which someone “dies”.
I still think noone dies this season. Good writing doesn’t have to involve deaths.mickeyParticipantBae is not dead. The writers wouldn’t devote so much time to his backstory to make him dead. He needs to be alive to be confronted with his father at least, possibly to be reconciled with him at the end of the series.
What makes their future confrontation interesting is that we don’t know what kind of man Bae has become and what his take on all that happened to him is. I doubt that he had a good life, though, considering the fact that he was dropped alone in a world totally strange to him. He was probably pretty messed up.
The issue of time is not that important, I think. Wasn’t it said that through the portal you could travel through time and space. But it is not clear whether he actually landed in our world or maybe somewhere else.mickeyParticipantI don’t think Henry is that important for the plot any more. He served his purpose, so to say. He brought Emma to Storybrook, told her what’s going on there, who is who etc. showed her the book and got her interested in it. He already is hardly existent on the show, he shows up to deliver a line or two per episode or he doesn’t show up at all.
The show could easily do without him, I think. There are two things, however, working for him: the fact that he is a child ( it is highly unlikely that a child character gets killed off) and the unresolved Emma’s parental issues. -
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