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@RumplesGirl wrote:
I just saw this happened to you. 🙂
😀 This is why fan interaction is important. It can totally make someone’s awful day that much better all in an instant!
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MysteryKat25ParticipantMysteryKat25Participant@SmallWhiteButterfly wrote:
^ You may well be right with Daniel saying “love again” just as Neal makes a proper appearance.
I forgot to say in my earlier post…the dreamcatcher thing is an amazing catch. I had no idea Regina has a dreamcatcher necklace.
The problem, like you said is the lack of interaction. If I hadn’t read the thread I would not have thought of the pairing (maybe the writers don’t want us guessing/shipping them yet – probably not but if it is and they did this on purpose I would be impressed).
Now that i’ve actually realised this is a possibility I will be more on the look out for hints when I re-watch the show during the hiatus.
Haaha yes, Cora wanted Regina broken, that is a very good point.
I think I have just talked myself into shipping FireQueen.
THIS is pretty much exactly how I felt yesterday! I’m definitely going to be on the lookout for a lot of shipper stuff already but I’m definitely adding these 2 to my list for rewatch. You’re right, I forgot that Cora specifically said she wanted Regina broken too! How convenient when episode titles match up to multiple characters as well as simply having the curse be “broken” too.
Edited to add: I’ve heard the dreamcatcher necklace thing in a few places now but am trying to pinpoint what ep it was in to find an actual screenshot. I know sometimes things look one way and turn out to be just the same general shape (and if it’s the one I’m thinking of now it has a similar shape but I’m not sure I’d call it that). I’m waiting to hear back from someone who mentioned it elsewhere but regardless if the necklace pans out or not, we have seen Regina have nightmares and we’ve heard from Neal that he suffers from them which is why he likes dreamcatchers so there is still that connection at least which is a strong one. The only others we’ve seen that suffer from nightmares were put under the sleeping curse and as far as we know, neither Neal nor Regina ever were.
I’ll keep an eye out on my rewatch to have a better idea of the ins and outs of the FireQueen potential but there do seem to be a lot of basic things so far that don’t have any huge red flags for me yet like there have been in other pairings (but again, we don’t have much interaction to work with either, grr). Time will tell but I’m loving the idea!
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MysteryKat25ParticipantI didn’t say he thought he was going to die. He told Belle to cloak SB and said they wouldn’t be able to return there because of that.
It’s not all about RumBelle (which is why I specifically mentioned all the other people there that they love – Snow & Red are best friends, Archie’s a close friend, we know how close Snow is to Team 7 etc.) So yes, while it would be nice to have RumBelle be able to interact, it’s not all about RumBelle.
Mulan and Aurora went off on their own quest. They weren’t tied to anybody but Snow & Emma and they parted ways and wished each other luck. It’s sad that they haven’t gotten to find out how the others did on their respective quests, but they chose to stay where they were (Mulan went back to help Aurora and Aurora wanted to go off on a mission to save Phillip, just like they knew Snow & Emma were off to reunite with their loved ones).
I think we’ll get some along the way since Neal is with them (and the dream thing could connect Aurora to somebody and that would be a way of letting someone know Neal is alive). I think we’ll get at least a little overlap with MAP and they should be *fairly* happy right now since they’ve apparently gotten Phillip back (hope we get to learn about that when we see Neal in FTL interacting with them and I think we will).
I’ll agree that for the most part the SB group got along fine without Snow & Emma but they had Charming there to pick up the slack too. With King George goodness knows where and up to what, they might need help too at some point. Plus it’s never fun to be completely cut off and worried about the people you love so even if they can get along just fine, they may want to talk to people once in awhile just to make sure they’re ok.
Communication isn’t always about “help” but about “hope” too – knowing the people you love are still out there instead of playing a million bad-case scenarios in your head is a good thing (especially when our main group have enough on their plates already). I don’t think they’d communicate super early on, but maybe at some point something like the mirror would come into play (and would be especially useful in telling Belle how to undo what Rumple told her to cloak SB so that they could return). It would be a nice nod to the story we know and love (B&tB using the mirror) and it would also serve a legitimate purpose storywise in helping them return to SB to be reunited with the rest of their loved ones not on the ship.
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MysteryKat25ParticipantMysteryKat25ParticipantInteresting idea Gypsy! Not sure if I’m completely sold because it may just be too painful for him so he relates it to what his little girl lost instead but until they say we can’t take much for granted at all.
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MysteryKat25ParticipantI disagree on one point: it is important to communicate with people in SB. The mirror would let the people on the ship know that the other people they love in SB (Belle, Archie, Ruby, Granny, Team 7, etc) are all safe and sound. Every person on that ship cares about somebody they left behind, not to mention the fact that Rumple doesn’t seem to think they’ll come back (I think he’s being silly and depressed but still) so if they were to find a mirror and be able to communicate it could put their minds at ease about the loved ones they left behind for sure.
The people in SB are still important and RG is right, objects don’t really belong to any one story in OUAT-world so I could see the mirror being something that bridges the gap between stories. It’s one of the reasons many of us believe we’ll see Ariel in Neverland, because we already know that mermaids exist there in Mermaid’s Lagoon.
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MysteryKat25ParticipantSmallWhiteButterfly – I agree with everything you said! The more I think about it, the more it makes sense that it’s at least been set up in a way that it would work if they choose to go there. I have similar concerns as you do about SF (the magic is a part of her and he hates magic thing) which is one of the many reasons why I’m hardcore CSer, but that’s neither here nor there. I’m not one to ship ___ because I want one gone from my ship. I genuinely think that they’ve set something up here that *could* play out very nicely and I want all the characters to be happy and find true love. I don’t hate Neal just because I want CS. I have issues with that relationship, not the man himself. I think Neal & Regina have a lot to offer each other!
We haven’t gotten much interaction to work with yet, just that she’s not too thrilled he’s related to Rumple (making her son related to him as well). I would definitely like to see it happen based on the reasons we’ve laid out though and agree that they will probably at least come to some understanding (and they kinda have to) for Henry’s sake so it would be nice if they were at least good friends.
Early sightings of Neal definitely reminded me of Daniel. The fact that in episode 2×05 Daniel is telling Regina to find love again and then 2×06 we finally get a glimpse of who Neal is seems like either a strange coincidence or helping set up a very long string of events that have basically been building from the beginning since as you said, everything Rumple did to Regina was for Bae.
Hope that they’ve kept any actual meeting of these two away so far because it’ll be significant and has to happen a certain way to show us the potential like they’ve set up with everybody else. So far she’s heard about him, asked about him (in a Henry’s father kind of way) and he’s just been the guy who’s been hanging out with the Charmings until Rumple said it was his son and Regina freaked out. So they haven’t properly talked yet it seems – definitely overdue as co-parents at the very least. I really really like the idea of FireQueen and what was a fleeting thought is now becoming one of my favorite possibilities for two very broken characters!
I think FireQueen will be on my season 3 wishlist of things to look for. When somebody pointed out that dreamcatcher necklace of Regina’s from way back when I was floored since we know Neal suffers from nightmares and likes dreamcatchers too! (Aka: it’s not just a SF thing, she told him about dreamcatchers and it is one of their things, but I think it’s *more* significant that he and Regina both have nightmares and feel the need to keep such things around…just my 2 cents on that).
Fun side fact that is probably irrelevant: the season was basically showing how broken Regina was and trying to be good and failing and still being broken (I swear the writers made some reference about it too with her being broken) and the first glimpse we see of Neal is the very first shot of the premiere episode Broken. (I think it describes both characters to a T and they can very much help each other, whether it turns romantic or not – though I hope it does!)
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MysteryKat25ParticipantIt’s possible. If she was left in the same place a lot she could have met someone else possibly. In which case poor Jefferson 🙁 (I’m inclined to think she died but with this show you never know).
As for door #6 it’s possible. Wouldn’t surprise me if they put at least a nod to Atlantis in whether we’d see it or not.
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MysteryKat25ParticipantJefferson said that the same number that go in have to come back out, hat’s rules (I’m not quoting because I’m not sure if that was the exact quote, does somebody know?) but he did say the same number, not a specific number. We’ve seen it be 2 in various cases but pretty sure they confirmed what Jefferson said on twitter ages ago, that the rules of the hat are just the same number go in as come out.
So it’s not really a land-by-land basis, but rather a method of transportation and the hat has a number clause whereas things like beans seem to be whoever jumps in together before it closes. As far as I know it’s the hat’s rules regardless of where it goes.
We’ve seen 3 go into the hat before (wraith + Emma + Snow) though we didn’t see them travel back the same way so it’s not quite the same.
Still haven’t figured out exactly how Jefferson got Frankenstein to FTL but took Rumple with him over originally and all 3 were in FTL at once but then only Jefferson & Frankenstein jumped back into the hat….but as far as I know the old hat rules apply so I’m sure there’s an explanation somewhere (I like the idea that Jefferson’s wife was a helper in all that and we just haven’t seen it yet).
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