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ParticipantAnd just because Rumple specified first born doesn’t mean there couldn’t be another child he wasn’t aware of. He doesn’t know everything. I don’t think it makes sense for there to have been another child AFTER Regina based on what we know.
Plus, if that picture Rose posted is indeed of a child other than Regina, it does look as if she is a peasant there, not royalty- which would place it firmly in pre- “Miller’s Daughter.” But again, all speculation.
Agreed on both counts. I’ve been hoping that if WickedSisters is true, that WW was the first born who had to be given up, pre-Miller’s Daughter, so I got a bit excited by the seemingly poorer fabric of Cora’s collar and pillows in this pic.
And Rumple doesn’t see everything, just bits and pieces. Perhaps it was the fact that Regina wouldn’t have been Cora’s first born after all that led fate in such a way that Cora ended up ditching Rumple. Fate wouldn’t let him stick with Cora, so she could have his baby, because the “gimme your first born” clause in their contract would have been invalid anyway, because she’d already had a baby, even though he didn’t know about that.
If the WickedSisters theory holds up (given the photo lends credence to the argument) then Regina’s life becomes even more tragic. Rumple’s manipulations would then have been of an innocent and Regina need not have been destined to be evil and that exchange with Regina in 2×02 “We Are Both” makes sense.
Weren’t Rumple’s manipulations already of an innocent though? It’s not like Regina ever did anything to him to kickstart his corruption of her, so I don’t really see how WickedSisters being true would make the situation any more tragic. I think it was just Regina’s crappy fate to be the one to cast the Curse, and so one way or the other, she’d have gone dark. Rumple knew enough pieces of the puzzle that he could snark about “snow white” to Cora, and he knew her child would be important to him, and he’d known for ages that someone other than him would cast the Curse, so I think Regina’s role in it all was sadly inevitable.
PLUS rump said he held Regina as a child. This could be that.
Could be I guess, but we’ve already seen Regina as a newborn, so would there be any point in taking the time to show her actual birth?
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ParticipantYeah I agree, my headcanon is that Dorothy married someone with the surname Walsh and this guy is their son Henry.
Mickstemp posted in chat earlier that a Pat Walshe played the lead flying monkey in the movie, so KFC’s crack isn’t completely random. LOL
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ParticipantNew Westminster is Regina’s house: http://yvrshoots.com/2013/10/shoot-once-upon-a-time-films-at-reginas-house-in-new-westminster.html#.Uv5s9fvpjjY
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ParticipantFull press release…
Rebecca Mader Guest Stars as the Wicked Witch of the West
“New York City Serenade” – After Rumplestiltskin sacrificed his life to stop Pan from enacting another curse, Regina obliterated her original curse, which erased Storybrooke from existence and whisked its residents back to Fairy Tale Land – leaving Emma and Henry back in our world with no memories of Storybrooke. But all is not well back in the Enchanted Forest when Hook comes calling on Emma in New York City in an attempt to jog her memory so that she can once again help her fairy tale family and friends out of a desperate situation, on the midseason return of “Once Upon a Time,” SUNDAY, MARCH 9 (8:00-9:00 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network.
“Once Upon a Time” stars Ginnifer Goodwin as Snow White/Mary Margaret, Jennifer Morrison as Emma Swan, Lana Parrilla as the Evil Queen/Regina, Josh Dallas as Prince Charming/David, Emilie de Ravin as Belle, Colin O’Donoghue as Hook, Michael Raymond-James as Baelfire/Neal Cassidy, Jared S. Gilmore as Henry Mills and Robert Carlyle as Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold.
Guest starring are Lee Arenberg as Leroy/Grumpy, Beverley Elliott as Granny, Sarah Bolger as Aurora, Rebecca Mader as the Wicked Witch of the West, David-Paul Grove as Doc, Gabe Khouth as Mr. Clark/Sneezy, Faustino Di Bauda as Sleepy, Jeffrey Kaiser as Dopey, Michael Coleman as Happy, Mig Macario as Bashful, Julian Morris as Prince Phillip, Christopher Gorham as Walsh, Sean Maguire as Robin Hood, Michael P. Northey as Friar Tuck, Jason Burkhart as Little John and David Orth as NY cop #1.
”New York City Serenade” was written by Edward Kitsis & Adam Horowitz and directed by Billy Gierhart.
Gorham’s character finally has a name!
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Participant“Nothing to Fear” guest stars include Peta Sergeant as Jabberwocky,
Not “the voice of” like Lithgow gets credited. So, the Jabberwocky has a human form?
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ParticipantHenry would have both witches of Oz on his tree…this boy is the heir to all the lands!
I know that this show’s insane family tree is the butt of many jokes, but as long as either/both WW/Glinda DO end up related to him…that’s actually an interesting comment WR, because he does have a familial connection to all these major, magical lands. FTL, WL through his grandmother Cora, NL through his great-grandfather, and now potentially Oz through WW and/or Glinda. But then he himself is born of our world. Makes me wonder if they’re actually making a conscious effort to connect Henry in a familial way to so many lands for some end game purpose to do with his own personal destiny. Will he have some vital role in uniting all the lands by the time the show ends, and those family connections will actually be a vital part of that? Is that how he’s gonna be the ultimate hero of this whole entire story?
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Participant“I’m the queen of this truck and anyone who says otherwise has to deal with my dad.”
Dorky captions are dorky.
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“I’m on a truck! I’m on a truck! Everybody look at me because I’m standing on a truck!”Phee
ParticipantShe reminds me of a blonde version of Ginny. Her face shape and cheekbones especially.
Yep. Saw this gif recently on tumblr showing how freakishly similar Ginny and JMo look…

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I reckon Sunny’s face could be slipped into the middle of that and it’d still look pretty much the same.
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ParticipantWait.
Of course she looks like Emma..she’s Emma’s Great-Grandomther! Isn’t that what some are thinking.
Glinda–Eva–Snow—Emma
Either that or Great Aunt if she’s Eva’s sister? I’ve always wondered where Emma got her blonde-ness from. Maybe we’re about to find out. 😉




The more pics of her I look at, the more I think she looks like she could be related to JMo.
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Participantand kind of like Emma.
When I scrolled down to the pic, my immediate thought was, “Why is there a pic of JMo in this thread?” Does she look that JMo-ish in all pics, or just that one? If it’s ALL pics…well I have been thinking that Eva had a tie to Oz, and she was Emma’s grandma. *goes to google more pics to see if that one was just a fluke*
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