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“This isn’t over. I’ll see both of you again.” It reminded me so much of Belle’s line to Rumple in 1×22. “I know the future isn’t always what it seems. I will see you again.”
THIS, SO MUCH! It was pretty much a direct copy of the belief that Belle had for a future with Rumple. So, yeah, whatever may come in the meantime, I’d bet ALL the cookies that we’re gonna get a Rumbelle-esque reunion for SF at some point.
[adrotate group="5"]How so? He made just as many wrong moves as her, both before she broke his heart (remember Robin Hood?) and after (breaking others’ hearts, like Silvermist, plus who knows what else that got him so wanted).
She betrayed him in a very personal way, on a whim, for her own selfish gains. Any untoward things either of them have done against anyone else isn’t the issue IMO, it’s the way in which she personally betrayed him. You just don’t do that to someone if you truly love them, and he deserves someone who truly loves him, who he can trust to not just up and abandon him when someone offers her some pretty jewels.
That honesty is brutal at times with them but it tells me they trust each other on a deeper level than just omitting the details to tell someone what they want to hear, in the way they want to hear it. They can yell at each other, stumble over words, and be sarcastic, and still make the other smile. They can be sad, or happy and the other understands it, even if at that moment they don’t feel the same. They can tell each other anything and they will never have to fear the other will stop loving the other, only whether they will choose to be together or not.
And if not for the trials they’ve been put through, they wouldn’t have that type of deep, brutal, honest relationship that they have now. Those trials will ultimately result in their relationship being stronger. The forces that tried to tear them apart, will ultimately result in their relationship being stronger. That strength is a connection unique to only them. Their relationship is raw, and real.
I JUST LOVE THEM A WHOLE LOT OK!!
Also Hook and Emma want different things in their lives. Hook doesn’t want to settle down and stay in one place (Even with Milah, they sailed around, not staying in one spot too long) Emma does, she wants her Tallahassee.
Yes this is a big point for me. Hook and Milah didn’t find some little house by the sea; they did what Hook loves to do: go on adventures on the ocean, be pirates. He chose to become a pirate after Liam but he relished it. You can tell that he enjoys it. And this is why Hookriel made so much sense to me.
Ah, Hookriel. So much potential, could have been a great match with their shared wanderlust. *sigh*
Anyway, Emma’s spent her whole life on the move and alone, never having a place to call home. Then she met Neal, and the Bug became their home, and they had a dream of a proper home. A place where Emma would finally belong, and they would build a new life and a family. But they didn’t get Tallahassee, and Emma drifted for the next 10 years of her life, same as the rest of her life before Neal, when she was constantly moved around. Now she’s found her family, she’s found a place to belong, she’s found a home. There is no way that Emma Swan would ditch all of that, her lifelong dream finally come true, to go sail around on a pirate ship. It would be completely OOC for her to do that. And it would be completely OOC for Hook to agree to just give up the sea, and if they confined him behind a white picket fence I would weep for him. I honestly don’t see how someone could want what is best for both of them as individuals, and think that they could be an endgame pair. It just does not compute in my head.
How Emma could choose such a man as a potential step-fathe figure for Henry boggles the mind. Singles mothers need to be extra careful about the men the date, since they also needs to think of the type of step-father they’d be. Hook has a really bad track record with being a step-father figure since he abandoned Neal, not once, but twice: first by leaving Bae behind with Rumple and again by letting Bae be captured by Lost Boys. Now Hook potentially could stab his son-figure in the back by going back on his word not to pursue Emma.
And to contrast with the way they’ve written Hook as a potential father figure, they’ve written Neal as a father figure who was there for his son in any way possible from the moment he discovered that Henry existed, and in doing so, broke the Stiltskin cycle of father/son abandonment. Which one of those characterisations, Neal’s or Hook’s, sounds like a character they’re setting up as being a positive father figure for a child?
That’s one of the reasons I don’t see how CS could be endgame, because for any of Adam and Eddy’s faults, I like to think that they wouldn’t saddle Henry with the negative option as an official step-dad. It would honestly baffle me if that’s the choice they made.
Now that I’m thinking about it, I wonder if the reason we haven’t had the juicy CaptainFire stuff could be because if they showed that, showed Hook genuinely reforming out of guilt for what he’d done to Bae, he’d start to look like a less negative step-dad option, and a more realistic option for Emma, which would drag the triangle out for much longer, and they don’t wanna do that. So instead they’re writing him in a continually negative light in a bid to shut the triangle down and show him as not really being a realistic contender. Perhaps? An explanation like that wouldn’t take away my disappointment over not having gotten the CaptainFire stuff, but at least there’d be a method to their madness that I could appreciate.
Yet, I don’t think either Hook or Emma would be entering a relationship from a place of strength and I think it would end badly.
And this is why, if there is some sort of CS development in this ep, I won’t be totally flipping out or declaring that our ship has sunk. It’s also why I won’t be overly disappointed if there isn’t some major SF progression. Even if there was, it’d only be a first step, and we all know that however it plays out for them, it’s gonna be a long journey. Emma’s got a dream of what her happy ending could be, but she’s not ready to believe in it and reach out and grab it just yet.
The thing that drives me crazy is that some people say that she should have been consulted in this whole decision but if he did, he knew she wouldn’t believe him for one. Because who in our world would believe that crazy story without any proof. She would just think he was crazy and who knows what would have happened then. But I think he also knew that if they stayed together, she wouldn’t want to go to Storybrooke. He didn’t know the specifics (imo) but he let August convince him that Emma would never go to SB if Neal stayed with her. Of course, Neal didn’t know about Henry at the time either but we, the audience, know and had they stayed together and had Henry together, Emma might have gone if she thought her parents were there but who would have tried to convince her that MM and David (who were her age) were her parents? I mean there really was no other way that Emma would have continued to stay in SB and eventually lift the curse. Henry was key to getting her to SB and her STAYING in SB. And Emma would not have given him up if she was still with Neal. I mean honestly, if you are going to be mad at anyone for Neal leaving Emma, I suppose you have to be mad at the writers for setting it up to be the ONLY way in this scenario that Emma could break the curse.
PREACH! I honestly don’t understand it when people say there could have been a way for him to stay with her and still have the Curse broken.
Maybe it happened when I wasn’t looking…
It must have happened when a whole bunch of us weren’t looking. And we all must have also collectively imagined all the scenes where he’s done things selflessly.
Just went to check out the OUAT tag on tumblr, found a post that starts with, “Neal does not understand Emma, and while he has been shown to be a character with a good heart, he does not make actions that are “right” for Emma,” and part of me is morbidly curious to read their attempt at reasoning, but part of me knows that reading it will just infuriate me and needlessly stress me out. *headdesk* I do see that their first point, before the “read more” includes that the end doesn’t justify the means for why he left her. I’m sorry, but I’m thinking that Emma finally finding the family she’d always dreamed of but never believed was actually out there PLENTY justifies the means. And he did that because HE UNDERSTANDS what it’s like to long for a family that you don’t believe could ever exist, because your parents abandoned you.
