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Hook may be written many ways with Henry when they meet.
I was reading some tumblr comments on that topic earlier today….
Hook left one of Henry’s mothers in a cell in FTL, then had a sword fight with her, trying to prevent her from getting back to Henry…
Hook left Henry’s other mother to be tortured by GOAT, and he was working (even if only temporarily) with GOAT, who are the people who kidnapped him…
Hook took away Henry’s dad’s mother, but more importantly, because Henry is currently experiencing what it is to be in Pan’s clutches, Hook handed Henry’s dad over to Pan when he was a kid.
I hope to God that these things aren’t just forgotten when it comes to Henry being shown around Hook, because not even from a shipping perspective, just purely from a “these are major plot points that would affect Henry emotionally” standpoint, they’re things we should see him have a reaction to. Hook has done some pretty horrible crap to all three of Henry’s parents, and also cooperated with the people who kidnapped Henry himself. If they show Henry as just being cool with Hook, ignoring that all of that stuff ever even happened, I’ll be seriously disappointed.
[adrotate group="5"]What about Malcolm, Rumple’s mother and the Spinsters? How are the first two connected to the last two?
AKA: where is Rumple’s mother and did Malcolm ever love her?
The Spinsters seemed to already know Malcolm, so there’s gotta be a connection of some description. If they’re 2 of the 3 Fates/Fairies/Whatever they are, then perhaps Rumple’s mother is the missing 3rd.
3. Is the CSF thread open for posting?
The thread has never been locked, it was just pretty much abandoned because it was the same people arguing the same sides of the same points, going around in circles and getting somewhat heated.
Wonder if the truth comes out in NL, or not until that street scene in SB? I’m glad everyone’s gonna find out.
If he is actually putting his hand back on in those pics, it possibly means that he had it confiscated while he was inside, which possibly means he was in the general area of where confiscated items are kept, which would be handy (pun) if they need to steal something.
Still don’t think we can rule out the possibility that Neal’s in there. Perhaps they needed to speak to him, get some information to or from him, so Hook deliberately makes a public nuisance of himself, gets himself taken in, and ends up locked in a holding cell with Neal. They keep “the crazy drunk guy who thinks he’s a pirate” in there just long enough for him to calm down and sober up, then let him go.
Bugger, now that I’ve had this idea of CaptainFire locked in a cell and forced into having a heart to heart chat, I’ve decided it must happen.
Here’s the link to Barbara Barnett’s podcast. The interview starts about 30mins in: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/barbara-barnett/2013/11/19/once-upon-a-time-with-guest-co-executive-producer-david-goodman
I thought for sure they knew about MalcolmPan before the end of S2 because ABC didn’t include the cut Manhattan scene of Rumple’s father leaving him from the DVDs, which are canon according to Adam.
So they set up big general ideas and plots and then seasonal arcs are mapped out a few months before they write/film. I guess I’m not *surprised* but I thought MalcolmPan would have been planned since Manhattan.
I think that by the time the DVDs were put together, they must have had an inkling that they were maybe gonna go in a different direction with that story, so they specifically asked that that cut scene not be included. David said he couldn’t remember who exactly at the writers’ camp had voiced the possibility, but it wouldn’t surprise me at all if it had been Adam or Eddy, because it’s such a major twist, it’s probably an idea they started to consider already by the end of S2. Maybe they even did have an original plan to make Pan his brother, but thought that father would make for a cooler twist once they started to hash it all out? The brother theory still could have worked, even with the cut scene of Rumple seeing his father run out and be killed.
One of the panellists (who I love) once more presented her “the blue fairy has an agenda” theory and asked about it, pointing out how many strings she’s pulled. David won’t confirm or deny, but he encouraged the panellist to “spin away”.
I enjoyed that he seemed amused by the Sneaky Fairy question. 😉
In the next couple of episodes the story of Henry and Neverland will come to a dramatic conclusion. Though he doesn’t want to say they’ll NEVER be returning to NVL because who knows for sure?
I liked hearing this question addressed, because lately I’ve been thinking that there’s no way that they can really show all the NL history that’s relevant to these characters, within the next couple of eps. They won’t have time to show exactly what Hook did when he worked for Pan. Won’t have time to show Tink’s time there, including how she got there in the first place. Won’t have time to show Bae’s time there, his first meeting with Pan, how he ended up in the cave, and how he ended up leaving. So I figured maybe they’ll keep all that in reserve to use in future eps that focus on Nealfire, Hook, and Tink. It’d also allow them to bring back Robbie Kay for flashback guest appearances in the future, even if Pan dies in the present.
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Those pics of Colin standing in the doorway and coming down the steps look like they were actually taken during filming, not just the usual cast-hanging-around-between-takes shots. Looks like he’s holding his fake hand as he comes out the door, maybe he’s just put it back on? And then he sees Emma at the bottom of the steps and it speaking to her as he walks down them?
CS would be the easy path for Emma. It would be running from all her feelings about Neal and her history with him and running to something that just feels good. That’s not emotional character development. It is actually rather backtrack-y for Emma.
Indeed! Now that they’ve actually shown Emma stating how hard it would be for her to face the emotions of their relationship again, they surely must be planning on having her explore those emotions and come to terms with them. They’ve blatantly set it up to be a thing she’s gonna deal with in the future at some point, even she does end up taking an easy path detour with Hook for a bit first.
I’m starting to think that the Shadow and BF are the original two powers, one “light” and one “dark,” but maybe light and dark originally didn’t symbolize good and bad as we think of it, since in some ways the Shadow seems more benevolent than the Blue Fairy. But maybe having Malcolm become Peter Pan threw off the balance, making the dark power turn evil.
The Shadow really didn’t seem particularly evil in this ep, at least not on the surface. It just seemed like an entity that was hanging out in NL, minding its own business, letting kids visit in their dreams and then letting them leave again. Until Malcolm came along and upset the whole process.
The Shadow let him upset the process though. It seems it actually encouraged him to stay. Which makes me suspect that there’s some ulterior motive on the Shadow’s part. It wanted someone to stay. Which means it wanted all the consequences of him staying. Which likely means it was working with someone *cough*SneakyFairy*cough* who set up the Spinsters with the bean that set the whole thing in motion.
Seer: You will be reunited with your son, and it will come in a most unexpected way.
Rumpelstiltskin: How?
Seer: A boy… A young boy will lead you to him. But beware, Rumpelstiltskin, for that boy is more than he appears. He will lead you…to what you seek. But there will be a price. The boy… Will be your undoing.
It could mean Henry. It could mean Pan. It could even mean Nealfire himself.
All I can say for sure is that we need the great undoing debate settled already, because that prophecy has been dissected every which way by everyone and we still just dunno.
