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ParticipantYeah, another separation would suck. Thinking about the wording from Emma’s promo poster – “Believe that a lost girl can find her way home” – I think it could be possible that EVERYONE goes back to FTL, including Emma.
I think Oz may not be until S4. Like you say, it’s highly likely that S4 is locked in (88 eps = syndication) so if they wanna do Oz, that’s their S4 storyline ready and waiting. Back half of S3 can be everyone re-settling, re-claiming, re-building FTL. Take some time to set up RegalHood, then at the end of the season bring up some Oz related drama that Regina has to deal with to throw a spanner in their works.
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ParticipantDarlings, Emma, Henry, Neal, Hook, Ariel, and Anton.
Anton! Knew I had to have been forgetting someone when I was listing un-cursed people in my previous post.
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ParticipantThe title for 311 has one of our fave words in it: “Going Home“. Not that I’ve necessarily been expecting there to be any serious SF romantic relationship development so soon, but maybe we’ll get a little step in the right direction in this ep? I’ve suddenly decided that he needs to give her the keychain back in 311, because if we have to endure the three month hiatus with that thing still not back in play, it will be torture.
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ParticipantLove that pic of the Darlings! 🙂
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ParticipantAh, I remember when that set photo of the Game of Thorns van was going around before the season started and some of us got our hopes up that we were gonna see them reconcile. Didn’t end up happening. Though I wonder if they still might, especially with Rumple’s daddy issues seemingly coming to a head by mid-season break, perhaps that could be a catalyst for Belle to seek out her own father.
He is not really a bad father, but he doesn’t understand his daughter.
Agreed. And he doesn’t understand Rumple properly either, but I can’t fault him for that because there are only two people alive who know about the good inside Rumple, and one of those people isn’t even entirely convinced that the good is still in there at the moment. Belle and Neal seriously need to have a serious talk at some point!
As far as Moe knows, Rumple is evil to the core. He’s not just the bad boy that his daughter has a crush on, he’s the actual Dark One, exceedingly powerful magical being, who manipulates and kills people and held his daughter prisoner. It’s no wonder that Moe was desperate to do anything to get his baby girl to forget about loving Rumple.
If they’re gonna get along, then Moe will need to learn to trust Belle’s judgement. He knows what an intelligent young woman she was when she lived at home, and he has to accept that she is still that intelligent young woman, and she’s not brainwashed or under a spell of some sort.
If Rumple’s undoing does end up being that he’s gonna lose the Dark One powers, maybe then Moe would be more easily convinced, because if Rumple can’t cast powerful spells any more, then Belle can’t possibly be under his spell.
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ParticipantSuppose the Darling kids didn’t know that much about the shadow and Pan. Could they have? Wendy didn’t look like she had aged much, and it is said Pan had her has prisoner for more than a century. So think Wendy came to Neverland again not long after Bae, her brothers probably with her, or they followed, or were taken by the shadow, that is still open. John and Michael look like being in their late 20s maybe early 30s, so my guess is, they came to Neverland as kids and Pan sent them to our world after Neal managed to escape the island (or after he let Neal escape).
I’m really curious to see how old Wendy is supposed to be now. She appears to be wearing the same nightgown as we saw her in at the end of S2, so that does suggest that she’s probably around the same age. The brothers’ ages though…they obviously have aged a considerable amount, so I wonder if they were taken to NL a considerable time after Wendy was. If Pan took all three of them as kids, the age they were in S2, then how did those boys grow up so much? It would have to mean that Pan sent them back to our world, still as young children, and had them stay here for 15 or so years, and then get them back somehow. It’s less complicated for Pan if he just takes Wendy, and then 15 or so years later, comes back for her brothers.
Whatever, doubt they had really a plan or something, so if they coined the term Home Office that was more a childish thing.
Yeah I’m thinking they were pretty naive when they tried whatever they tried to beat Pan and get Bae back. And I could see them calling themselves THO, same way that Henry gives his undercover missions names. Pan could have adopted the name THO as a way to mock them once he’d forced them into working for him.
In our world, with James Bond movies and spy movies and S.H.I.E.L.D and HYDRA agencies all around, working for Home Office sounds a lot more plausible, especially when the people telling you that have a neat British accent and you’re some half educated american high school kid or college twenty-something. 😉
Good point about the accents. That would have helped if they were trying to make GOAT think they were working for the real life organisation.
Possible they (aka John and Michael) recruited a few more people, but don’t think there was some big thing going on.
I think at the very least, August was also recruited, and that’s how he got the info about Neal being Bae, and how he was given his mission to go and break them up. That’s something that Pan wanted to happen.
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ParticipantFelix and PP are in Storybrooke too so they wouldn’t be taken by the curse unless the new curse comes about because of Rumple stabbing Pan with the dark one dagger which means everyone could be sent to EF.
It doesn’t make sense to lose Storybrooke though, it’s a big part of the show.
I think Pan might be getting stabbed because Rumple needs the heart of the thing he hates most in order to cast the counter-Curse. And like I posted the other day, I wonder if the whole of SB could be physically transported to FTL.
Going home…. Could be a reference to “No Place Like Home”
Oz is gonna happen if I have to go down to ABC and make it happen >>With the Oz hints that pop up here and there, I would not be surprised to hear someone say, “There’s no place like home,” at some point in this ep.
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ParticipantJudging by that title, I’m on board with the theory that the new curse is gonna send them back to FTL. If it was about them returning from NL, I’d expect it be “Coming Home”. If it was the EF coming to SB, I’d expect it to be “Home Coming”. But “Going Home” sounds like they’re leaving SB and returning from whence they came.
My big question is does this new curse have particular rules?
The failsafe was gonna kill everyone from FTL, so Henry would have been immune. If that same rule applies here, then Henry and the Darlings are outta luck.
If the new curse is just a reversal of the old one, does it only take people who were cursed the first time? If so, then along with Henry and the Darlings, there’s also Pinocchio, Emma, Neal, Hook, and Ariel who wouldn’t be affected. Guess it’s no biggie for Ariel because she can jump realms anyway.
Or am I overthinking the whole thing and it’ll just take everyone in town?
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ParticipantAccording to Gil’s tweets, he went to Vancouver on the 26th, (the dates show on my Twitter in Aussie time, but he mentioned it being early morning, so I’m thinking it was actually the 26th his time, not the 25th, even though I live in the future). The Empire of the Sun concert he tweeted a pic from was in LA on the 31st. No tweets in between to say when he returned to LA. Dock scene was shot on the 28th wasn’t it? So there’s at least 1 full day on the 27th when he might have been shooting other stuff.
JoAnna didn’t tweet anything to give away her location during those few days.
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ParticipantMaybe they got to NL on Wendy’d bed flying like in Bedknobs and broomsticks, thinking they could rescue Bae. Only Pan was one step ahead.
You made me go and check screencaps from 221 to see if the 307 bed matches any of the ones that were in the Darlings’ bedroom. Alas it does not. That would have been a fun idea.
As for John’s umbrella, if memory serves, he’s got it in those set pics for a future ep.
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