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His line about his feelings illuminating him was beautiful. Seriously perfect!

I love that they’ve now re-established a real connection, even though they’re worlds apart.

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So this must mean that Ariel’s sticking around, right? The only other ep we’re aware of JoAnna having been shooting for was the dock scene in 310. But if Adam’s saying there’s more AriBelle in store, she must be in the second half of the season as well? I really hope that’s what he’s implying! *fingers crossed*

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so what’s the significance of sunlight to Pan and his thing with wanting Henry’s heart?

Light and shadows are linked. Depending on the angle that light is coming from, it can create a shadow, or make a shadow disappear. Now that I’m thinking of it, Henry’s shiny heart almost resembles a mini-sun. So what affect would it have on Pan, and his shadow, and the other shadows he controls, and the shadow that lies over NL, if Pan ends up with the light of the sun inside him?

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Hope you feel better, Heather.

I’m really looking forward to Emma discovering all these additional things about Neal’s life. She loved him before, felt connected to him before, and now she’s gonna learn about all the trials he’s been through, and how he was alone like she was, and she’ll have a new understanding of exactly what she’d meant to him, and what family means to him, and why he had to let her go to find her own family. I can only imagine that learning these things will give her a whole new understanding of and respect for the person he is, and how strong his heart and spirit are, and she’ll fall in love with him all over again.

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It’s also likely that if Pan is Malcolm, he doesn’t initially have those memories if ever.

But then how does he remember stuff like how Rumple likes his eggs? Because if the de-aged father thing proves true, I’m guessing it spelled the end of their relationship, (with Pan going to NL pretty much immediately after, perhaps actually at the exact same time), so there were no more shared breakfasts after that point. We’ve seen with August that being de-aged takes away your memories, so you’d think that Malcolm being de-aged to the age he was when Rumple was born, (if the teen father thing were true), or even younger, would wipe out any memories that he had of Rumple’s life, like how he likes his eggs.

Also, just on the name thing, unless Malcolm changed his name, he can’t be the same person as Peter Pan. I know it’s been discussed before that Peter and Rumplestiltskin is an odd pair of names if the same people (their parents) named them both. But I could see if is name was originally just Peter, and when he went to NL, he added the Pan on because he got himself a god complex. Why would someone named Malcolm completely rename himself Peter Pan?

PS. Yes, the casting department are freaking geniuses. I swear they have facial recognition software that they run actors’ headshots through.

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Yeah, I think the mention of the blue dress throws the t-word off.

We don’t know exactly how many times Alice has been to WL, right? She definitely went as a little girl, in the blue dress. She also went the time she met Cyrus. Was that the same trip as when she helped the Knave get his heart back though, or was she also there at least one other time? If she was there at least one other time, then perhaps she was there multiple other times.

After her return in the blue dress, she seemed eager to see her father, so it sounds like their relationship wasn’t completely ruined at that point, but in this scene, RQ mentions her having been a little girl wanting her father’s love.

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This cracked me up. So cute. 😆

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He’s still her Neal.

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[quote=223381]I have a feeling that even *if* Emma chose to date Hook, Neal would never really move on from Emma or the dream of their Tallahassee. Sure, he could learn to accept a co-parenting arrangement over Henry and be cordial to Emma and Hook, but secretly, he would always carry a torch for the mother of his child. While he might learn to accept the status quo and would maintain a healthy boundary so as not to make Emma uncomfortable, Neal himself would find it downright impossible to find another woman who captures his heart as Emma does. Neal knows now what a huge mistake Tamara was, and she was his excuse for not going after Emma, which turned out to be the biggest regret of his life. I think Neal would end up spending his days alone rather than try to find a second-place substitute for Emma.[/quote]
This is a factor into why I believe SF has to be endgame. I know, I know, there's always the argument that not every character has to end up with a partner, because a happy ending can be being alone and having your family. But let's be real here, it's a show about fairytales, so all of their main characters are gonna be partnered up as a means to their happy ending.

And the way they're writing Neal, he only loves Emma, despite what he had with Tamara, he never loved her the same way he loved Emma, and now he's focused on being a better man and that's inspired by his love for Emma. He is all about Emma, which is why I find it amusing whenever people want to ship him with any other character with actual expectation that it could become canon. Like, how many times does he need to spell out how he feels about Emma before people get the hint that he's not gonna have eyes for anyone else?

The fact that they've written him with Emma tunnel vision, and that they've written his long life as being a tragic story of one loss of love after the other, and that, like I said, the main characters will all end up with a partner...the only endgame that makes sense IMO from a storytelling perspective is that his happy ending is to eventually end up with Emma.

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Welcome, katsqueak!

Also his hugs!! I want one.

I wanna meet MRJ really bad, because seeing how great Neal hugs are, you just know that an MRJ hug is gonna be the best. My #1 celeb pretend boyfriend, he gives the best hugs in life, like, just remembering the hug can give you warm fuzzies. I think that’s what an MRJ hug would be like too.

Speaking of hugs, it reminds me of something I read on tumblr yesterday. *goes to try and find it again*…

i don’t mean to bash hook because i really do like him (save for his behavior in the last two episodes)

but i seriously cannot wait for the swanfire family reunion moment, when emma and neal are crying and hugging henry and hook is just kind of standing back looking defeated. because not only does he know they share something bigger than all this petty love triangle/angsty romance stuff, he’s seeing it play out before his eyes. and he’s realizing that no matter what emma chooses- whether it’s being with one of the guys, or neither of them- she and neal are always going to be family.

http://emma-and-bae.tumblr.com/post/66663186238/i-dont-mean-to-bash-hook-because-i-really-do-like
Once I was done grinning over how amazing that family reunion is gonna be, (especially because Henry is currently still thinking his father is dead, so imagine when he sees him alive, OMG my heart just wants to burst just thinking about it :D), I imagined that scene playing out with Hook standing on the outer.

Regina’s gonna get a family reunion hug, Snow and Charming are gonna get family reunion hugs, and most importantly from the triangle perspective, Emma and Neal are gonna get family reunion hugs. Hook’s gonna stand by and watch that happen. And I wonder if seeing Neal being a part of the family he’s finally found will be his wakeup call that he’s acting like a jerk by insisting on trying to take away someone Neal loves all over again?

I really want to see some more of the lighter side of SF very soon.

I know it wasn’t really a “light” moment, but I loved how in 307 they were sitting side by side. It showed that Emma didn’t feel alienated or weird about their previous conversations. Despite all of that, she was still comfortable enough around him that she was happy to sit right next to him.

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The same with the history of Bae and Hook. 300 years ago in the story or not, those events were played out on screen for a reason and just as relevant to Hook and Neal as other backstory. Are we supposed to dismiss Hook’s past as a man of honor? CS fans do not think so yet they say forget Milah and forget Bae. If these events are addressed on screen, then we can see Emma react to them rather than fans assumptions of how she might feel, get her reaction on the quality of the characters of Hook and Neal.

Dear God yes, we need some CANON Emma reactions to all of this so the conflicting speculations about her reaction to it all can be put to rest. Current actions don’t just erase past actions. The same people who would love to say that the details of Hook’s past actions aren’t relevant to present day, would also say that the details of Neal’s past actions are why he shouldn’t be with Emma in present day. Double standard much.

We don’t know if Neal kept the swan key chain

I will actually cry if he didn’t keep the keychain. Of course, I’ll also cry if he DID keep the keychain. So basically, I need to buy some Kleenex.

I think that might be a good bet. We still don’t know what Hook was doing for PP, but PP called it “his dirty work.” And then there is whole, “I gave a young boy to the lost ones,…sorta like how your son was kidnapped in a similar fashion. After I had promised him a family.” But Neal’s other story is “I saved a young boy from the shadow we have in our coconut because they took me in and loved me and it was the least I could do”

With the promo pics for 308, I am quite desperately hoping that Emma’s gonna learn the full truth about everything to do with Neal’s life. Emma needs to know that he had a family with the Darlings, and that he sacrificed himself to keep them safe from the Shadow, and that’s how he ended up in NL. The flow on from her learning that, SHOULD be that she learns how Hook fished him out of the water, and had him stay on the JR for a little while, before he sold him out to someone Hook himself has labeled as a demon. It’s great that he’s now helping to save Henry from that same demon, but that doesn’t erase the fact that he handed Bae directly over to him, and we now know that Hook knew that Pan was a treacherous little so and so back when he was still Killian, so we can’t say that Hook was oblivious about who he was handing Bae over to. And if Emma’s gonna learn about all of that, then she’ll also have to learn the truth of who Milah was, because Milah’s the reason that CaptainFire had the fight that led to Bae leaving the ship. If all of that truth doesn’t come out in the very near future, I’m gonna be seriously disappointed.

I don’t know if she would stare at him and think he would be a great father to Henry but he might be fun in Vegas.”

NL = Vegas. And you know what they say about what happens in Vegas. I hope that’s the reason they’re doing this triangle mess while they’re in NL, because it’s a land where everything, especially emotions, are wonky. The only way I can see CS continuing to interact post-NL without it being incredibly awkward (and we do know they’ll be interacting, to the point where she’s giving him a lift in her car) is if they can say, “So, NL was a real trip huh.”

I know a lot of people don’t want to consider this theory, but what if the “dirty work” that Pan had Hook do was capturing the Darling children? This would put a very stark divide between Hook and Neal since Bae tried so hard to save them.

It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if Hook had something to do with the Darlings ending up as Pan’s prisoners.

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