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I don’t think Hook’s gloating, I think he just thinks that the kiss was the secret that Emma told to get Neal out of the cage. That belief was reinforced when Hook overheard Neal telling her he’ll fight for her. Why else would he say that unless he knew he had competition, right? But now after this little revelation in the cave, Hook knows that Neal didn’t say he’ll fight for her because he wants to wrangle her away from him or anything, he just said he’s gonna fight for her because he straight up loves her. Which could potentially change how Hook looks at the whole situation. Why wouldn’t Emma reveal the kiss? What other secret did she reveal instead?
[adrotate group="5"]Yeah, I agree. But honestly I don’t know if Henry’s heart would do it. People would claim that this is just a result of being born from Emma, True Love Incarnate and nothing to do with Neal.
That is a fair point, there would probably be people using that argument. *sigh*
If only we had some pixie dust!
I happen to think the pixie-dust-showing-your-soulmate motif could’ve been introduced not just for Regina but also for Emma. There was a spoiler for 3×7 that Tinkerbell may play a role in the CSF drama currently unfolding. While Tinkerbell doesn’t currently have any more pixie dust, Peter Pan probably does. We’ve also seen that spoiler-ish BTS image Ginnywin Goodwin posted of Rose Mciver joining Jennifer Morrison and MRJ with her arms, perhaps as a hint that Tink could act as a bridge between Emma and Neal.
There’s gotta be pixie dust on that island somewhere. Perhaps Tink will accidentally on purpose spill some when she’s standing next to Emma.
Would it even work with Emma? Unless she went under a sleeping curse and then Hook and Neal both kissed her to see which one wakes her up but boy does that sound contrived. Obviously Emma could wake anyone up. So I agree that has to be resolved/proved somehow (though I’d like for it be resolved just simply because Emma said so).
Can she even BE cursed to begin with? And I’d prefer it to be resolved just by Emma being shown to make a choice as well, but practically speaking I think there will need to be an actual “event” in the show that screams TL, otherwise the fandom debates and ship wars will rage on for years. If they wanted to prove SF as TL and officially end the triangle drama before season’s end, they could do that with the Henry’s heart thing, but still take another season for SF to build up their relationship properly again. It wouldn’t be unlike what they’ve done with RegalHood.
Magic is wonky, so when people try to argue about it sometimes, there’s logical problems. Emma’s magic nature is not just her parent’s love flowing into her. She is special beyond that due to the prophecy but also just who she is. We don’t know exactly all the “logic” in the show behind her magic, but she has it, just as Regina has it. Yet Snow and Charming don’t seem to, and it was implied their parents had true love. I doubt Aurora’s baby is going to do anything big, but we’ll see, Ashley’s didn’t. So when people try to argue about Henry, I don’t think that is the way the writers would want to resolve the triangle. It would feel like a cheat to me, telling me rather than showing me the love or lack of it.
I agree to an extent. Thing is, there will have to be a way that they conclusively prove which side of the triangle is TL, (something more obvious than including the TL music theme in their scenes). One pair will have to have it, otherwise the triangle will never truly end, (unless one of the guys dies, which I think is highly unlikely, and would be the worst possible way to resolve it), and dear sweet baby Jesus do we need the triangle to officially, canonically end at some point in the near future.
The only way we’ve seen TL proven thus far is with TLK breaking a curse. Charming woke Snow (and Snow woke Charming), Rumple started to change after kissing Belle, Abigail un-golded Frederick, and then we got the non-romantic TLK with Emma and Henry breaking the curse too. The whole TLK causing magic to happen as proof feels sorta overdone, but they’ll have to prove it somehow.
If they wanted to prove it for SF, I think Henry having an un-take-able heart would be acceptable. They’ve set up that super special baby of TL Emma can’t have her heart taken, and now they’ve got her son in a situation that it’s gonna take magic to get out of, and the guy holding him hostage wants his super special Truest Believer heart. If it ends up that the thing with Emma’s heart was deliberate foreshadowing for the same thing being true with Henry, which would be both an actual plot point of Pan’s manipulation of him, and would have the bonus of proving his parents’ TL, killing two birds with one stone, I wouldn’t be terribly surprised.
Hook and Emma have what I’d call moonlight romance–it works by the light of the moon, when its just the two of them, no one’s watching and they forget a lot of things about themselves, because its hard to see in that light so it all looks better. Neal and Emma are sunlight romance, because nothing’s forgotten, there’s no special atmosphere, they will come back together with full awareness of each other and their goals/dreams and it won’t matter who is around to see. The moon has no light of its own, no matter how bright it might appear, for it is but a reflection of the sun. As J.Mo said, her attraction to Hook was complicated by his reminding her of Neal.
This is perfect! So beautifully said.
The other guy listed in the guest cast seems to mostly do stunt work, judging by his imdb page. If that IS the full guest cast list, then, yeah, I dunno, so I think maybe there are actually gonna be a couple more guest stars who weren’t in that list. “Guest stars include” suggests there could potentially be additional ones?
Maybe I am confused, but what should Tink tell? Bae learned from Hook when he came to Neverland, that Hook was in love with Milah, and that his father killed her and that Hook was on a revenge quest (final episode of season 2). Hook told in the Echo chamber of secrets, that he thought he couldn’t move on from his love Milah, but that he now did and fell in love with Emma. Maybe Neal didn’t hear at all, but he already knew about Milah. And doubt that the Charming didn’t get it. What more beans about Hook and Milah are there to spill for Tink?
It hasn’t been confirmed on the show yet that Emma has put it all together and realises that Hook’s Milah = Neal’s mother. She also definitely has no idea that Hook handed him over to Pan back in the day, and that’s also something that Tink would know about. These are things that Emma really should be made aware of, especially if Hook’s hoping to start up a relationship with her. Tink also probably knows what Hook used to do for Pan back in the days when he worked for him, and that’s something that’s still to be revealed to the audience, so it’s bound to come up amongst the characters somehow, and it’s bound to be something not good. Basically, the guy has some big secrets that could very well affect what Emma thinks of him, they’re all things that Tink would know, and those secrets will have to be revealed at some point.
Was just casually scrolling through the OUAT tumblr tag and came across this…
So, we know that Emma can’t have her heart taken because she’s the product of True Love. My question is…
Will we ever see Henry’s heart taken out/attempted to be taken out?
Because I think that would give us a good idea about what’s going down with Emma and certain someones…
And I thought, “Well I dunno if we’ll ever see someone actually reaching into Henry’s chest, but Pan does seem to need his heart, and there’s that theory about how maybe he has to give his heart willingly…OMG maybe the reason Pan has to convince him to give his heart up willingly is because he knows he can’t take his heart because it’s impossible to take the heart out of a magical true love baby.” I mean, we know that Pan knows that Emma and Neal love each other, because he said so to Hook, so if that IS what’s up with Henry’s heart being unable to be taken, then Pan would know what’s up with that, which is why he’s taking the time to win him over.So, given the synopsys and the guest cast, I’m gonna take a guess and say our Old Prisoner is the King.
He seems like such a good fit for the Sultan/Jafar’s father though. And when RQ was there for dinner in the dungeon with Jafar, there was no interaction with the guy in the other cage, I don’t think? But if he was RQ’s former husband, you’d think there would have been. And his nationality fits with ruling Agrabah better than ruling WL, and I’m guessing RQ married a king in WL.
It does say, “guest stars include” so I wonder if there might be more that aren’t on that list, including someone playing the king, and also Ana’s mother?
