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Sneaky Fairy is Sneaky.
I think she in league with PP. I think together they’ve been conspiring for ages about how to get Henry. I think Blue was PP’s agent in the EF and that she has helped set in motion of a chain of events. The fact that as a Fairy she doesn’t believe in giving Regina a second chance of saving her from the Darkness is so suspicious! She should believe in love, her above everyone else!
THIS!
Blue: This is not a woman you can help. she is surrounded by darkness
Tink: I can’t believe you want me to ignore someone who needs help. That’s not very fairy-like.
Blue: I will be the judge of what is fairy-like.So she wasn’t willing to help Regina escape the darkness in her life, but when Bae had darkness in his life, “Oh here, lemme help you by giving up this super precious very last magical bean.”
Sneaky!!
[adrotate group="5"]Anyone else notice when Regina jeered that Hook is Emma’s boyfriend? And Emma got all defensive and mama Snow shut that down saying Emma’s not over Neal? And now Neal is in NL! I’m so happy! I have hope.
I did love the way Snow said, “She just lost Neal,” like, “OMG woman, you know what it feels like to lose the person you love, and you’re seriously gonna say that to Emma right now?!”
Ok I just asked around and in next weeks promo we see Emma holding a coconut and looking up at the stars and saying Home in that really soft lovely voice. Imma just point out that Nealfire was holding a coconut in the final two pics from GG over the summer. And that Emma’s poster was all about finding her way home. And that the word for Phoenix in Greek also means palm tree. From which coconuts spring
And go.
I love all of this and just wanted to add that the final time Emma saw Neal back in the day…
Neal: Tallahassee, baby. We’re almost home.
(Neal exits the car with the bag.)
Emma: Home…
I’m back home on the west coast so a bit delayed. I can’t find the tweet now, but during the last #AskGinny, someone asked her what mythical creature she would most like to see on the show and her answer was the pheonix. Coincidence?
I heart Ginny and her tweets!
I think the Rumple in him is coming out. I think in some way it’s going to help Neal understand his papa.
Interesting point, and you could well be right. Spending time in his father’s castle, finding the walking stick with the notches on it, he’s already reflecting on who his father was, and is, and now he has an understanding of the total desperation to get to his son, which is what Rumple was feeling as well. Desperate souls do desperate things.
Hearing previews I was worried about Neal using a boy but ultimately I was ok with that, because of the following:
Mulan was there to approve it and as a neutral 3rd party full of honor, she wasn’t swayed by desperation or guilt over a debt unpaid
Robin (and Roland) are brave
Roland is only 4 and the shadow has to take you willingly. With Papa right there saying no, pretty sure Roland was as far from willing as you can get.
Neal knew the shadow could be attacked and had limited intelligence (good thing too or it would have slammed into walls to dump him off!).So basically Neal was not being evil and exploiting a little kid, but Robin and Roland were being brave to help him despite the carefully controlled risks.
Agreed with all of that.
Neal learned much about Pan and the Shadow during his time in NL, so he had the wits to take the Shadow on. Having Roland’s father right there was pretty good insurance that the kid wasn’t gonna be taken easily. If Roland has to go willingly, that’s not gonna happen with Robin right there. Also, they had Mulan and her magical sword that can defend against magical beings. It was absolutely a risky situation, but they worked together and took precautions to diminish the risk as much as possible.
PS. That horsedrawn Bug is hilarious!
Saw it tagged on twitter as EvilArrow I’m boarding that ship early lol
Oh you’re late to the party, folks have been shipping RegalHood for some time already, (pretty much from the time Robin was re-cast), so welcome aboard. 😉 The crackship is finally, officially setting sail!
I like that they’ve given them this (almost)history together to build on into the future. Really looking forward to how this relationship develops and how they eventually meet up!
Maybe Marian intervened and told Regina to back off of RH because he was her one true love.
The scenario I’m imagining would have happened pre-Marian.
Historically speaking, Maid Marian is characterised in several different ways…
Maid Marian was originally a character in May Games festivities (held during May and early June, most commonly around Whitsun)[2] and is sometimes associated with the Queen or Lady of May of May Day. Jim Lees in The Quest for Robin Hood (p.81) suggests that Maid Marian was originally a personification of the Virgin Mary. Both a “Robin” and a “Marian” character were associated with May Day by, but these figures were apparently part of separate traditions; the Marian of the May Games is likely derived from the French tradition of a shepherdess named Marion and her shepherd lover Robin, recorded in Adam de la Halle’s Le Jeu de Robin et Marion, circa 1283.[3] It isn’t clear if there was an association of the early “outlaw” character of Robin Hood and the early “May Day” character Robin, but they did become identified, and associated with the “Marian” character, by the 16th century. Alexander Barclay, writing in c. 1500, refers to “some merry fytte of Maid Marian or else of Robin Hood”.[4] Marian remained associated with May Day celebrations even after the association of Robin Hood with May Day had again faded.[5] The early Robin Hood is also given a “shepherdess” love interest, in Robin Hood’s Birth, Breeding, Valor, and Marriage (Child Ballad 149), his sweetheart is “Clorinda the Queen of the Shepherdesses”.[6] Clorinda survives in some later stories as an alias of Marian.[7]
The “gentrified” Robin Hood character, portrayed as a historical outlawed yeoman emerges in the late 16th century. From this time, Maid Marian is also cast in terms of a noblewoman, even though her role was never entirely virginal and she retained aspects of her “shepherdess” or “May Day” characteristics; in 1592, Thomas Nashe described the Marian of the later May Games as being played by a male actor named Martin, and there are hints in the play of Robin Hood and the Friar that the female character in these plays had become a lewd parody. Robin was originally called Ryder.
In an Elizabethan play, Anthony Munday identified Maid Marian with the historical Matilda, daughter of Robert Fitzwalter, who had to flee England because of an attempt to assassinate King John (legendarily attributed to King John’s attempts to seduce Matilda).[8][9]
In Robin Hood and Maid Marian (Child Ballad 150, perhaps dating to the 17th century), Maid Marian is “a bonny fine maid of a noble degree” said to excel both Helen and Jane Shore in beauty. Separated from her lover, she dresses as a page “and ranged the wood to find Robin Hood,” who was himself disguised, so that the two begin to fight when they meet. As is often the case in these ballads, Robin Hood loses the fight to comical effect, and Marian only recognizes him when he asks for quarter. This ballad is in the “Earl of Huntington” tradition, a supposed “historical identity” of Robin Hood forwarded in the late 16th century. [10]
20th-century pop culture adaptations of the Robin Hood legend have almost invariably featured a Maid Marian, and have mostly made her a highborn woman with a rebellious or “tomboy” character. In 1938’s The Adventures of Robin Hood, she is a courageous and loyal woman (played by Olivia de Havilland), and a ward of the court, an orphaned noblewoman under the protection of King Richard. Although always ladylike, her initial antagonism to Robin springs not from aristocratic disdain but out of an aversion to robbery.[11] In The Story of Robin Hood and His Merrie Men (1952), she, despite being a lady-in-waiting to Eleanor of Aquitaine during the Crusades, is in reality a mischievous tomboy capable of fleeing boldly to the countryside disguised as a boy.[12] In the Kevin Costner epic Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves, she is a maternal cousin to the sovereign, while in the BBC TV Show adaption of 2006, she is the daughter of the former Sheriff and was betrothed to Robin prior to his leaving for the Holy Land.
Maid Marian’s role as a prototypical strong female character has also made her a popular focus in feminist fiction. Theresa Tomlinson’s Forestwife novels (1993–2000) are told from Marian’s point of view, portray Marian as a high-born Norman girl escaping entrapment in an arranged marriage. With the aid of her nurse, she runs away to Sherwood Forest, where she becomes acquainted with Robin Hood and his men. Elsa Watson’s Maid Marian takes a similar approach.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maid_Marian
Was that last bit in bold that caught my eye in particular, because who do we know who was wanting to escape an arranged marriage, (not with the help of a nurse, but with the help of a fairy)? Perhaps the Marian we’ve already seen will fit one of the other characterisations of Robin’s lady love, and his future lady love will represent that last characterisation, and that way they can cover multiple bases and acknowledge multiple incarnations of the character. Perhaps?Well wow guess you guys had fun last night anyway CC was AMAZING!!!! Lot of once and Phee after the panel I went up to Eddy for an autograph and asked really quickly if BF has alterior motives and Eddy said ” You will find out soon” what does that even mean?
Ooooo, thanks for the goss!! I’ll pretty much flail my arms right off if we see Sneaky Fairy actually being sneaky some time soon!!
Think from now on I’m gonna start referring to the Adam/Eddy combo as Kitswitz, because “The biggest issue I have is no one is shipping Kitswitz.”
I need to see that final frame right now! *GRABBY HANDS* When I download this ep, it’s gonna take all my willpower to not just have a sneaky peek at the end first. 😛
You will see an opportunity that Regina has had for love. Whether or not that’s in the future or not, I can’t speak to that, but watch the episode and watch all the way to the end.
This to me suggests that maybe Tink tried to set up Regina and whoever *cough*Robin*cough* back in the day, but someone else *cough*Rumple*cough* *coughOrMaybeBlue?*cough* intervened and they didn’t end up crossing paths after all. Perhaps?
And pretty much exactly the same thing was said at NYCC too…
Matt: Hook’s been flirting up a storm. I know Emma’s dealing with Neal’s loss, I know Emma’s focused on finding Henry. Are we gonna see any other flirting, any other developments on that Hook and Emma front?
JMo: Ummm….it’s complicated. Hook has definitely been surprising Emma.
Eddy: He’s working overtime for her. Those pirate charms.
JMo: But Emma’s obviously just focused on trying to get Henry. She’s really not wanting to be distracted from the fact that she wants to do whatever it takes to save Henry and to have him back in her life. So I think there’s a lot coming at her that’s she’s not paying close attention to, but is pleasantly surprised by how he does seem to really be working to help, that he’s genuinely invested. And ya know we’re in a land where everything makes no sense to Emma, once again, and she’s learning as she goes as always, and he’s someone who lived there for a long time and can be a true help, and has proven himself to be a true help.
And then the next part…
Matt: Is there any reason that once Neal ultimately makes his way to NL, that it’s not just some obstacle free, happy reunion, and there’s actually no triangle to play here?
Adam: If and when Neal and Emma find each other again, it’s not as simple as running into each other’s arms. There is a very complicated history between those two.
Eddy: There are things you say to somebody as they’re about to die and fall through a portal. And then there are things you say when things have calmed down and you actually have a chance to talk.
Adam: And you have to realise what really came before in that relationship and all that stuff will have to be dealt with.
JMo: Yeah it doesn’t eliminate 10 years of her being heartbroken over him and feeling like he had rejected her. And not just rejected her but left her to be, set her up to be arrested. All the things she thinks happened are deeply, deeply wounding, and so even though she now knows that they’re not true, she spent 10 years believing them, so she has to sort of re-understand her own history a little bit.
My interpretation of that…
Q: So do we really even need a love triangle to create roadblock dramas for Neal and Emma to sort their stuff out?
A: Nope, there’s already plenty of obstacles and drama for those two, and we’re gonna delve right into all that stuff that needs to be resolved between them.Taking everything that was said about both potential relationships into consideration, IMO it sounds like Hook might be trying to impress, but Emma’s not exactly receptive to romance right now, but in dealing with and re-evaluating her past, she’ll inevitably be confronted with re-evaluating her past with Neal. And I don’t see anything in any of that to really be worried about, in fact, it makes me pretty optimistic.
I know they’ve said that we won’t be getting any more in depth Emma flashbacks yet, but I think we will be getting Neal flashbacks, and at least one of those might feature him with Emma, especially if they’re gonna be dealing with their past in the present day. So there’s every chance that this infamous kiss could be in flashback. It would actually probably make more sense if it is, otherwise JMo just gave away a big spoiler about the present day storyline, and I dunno that she’d do that, but mentioning a SF flashback kiss, that’s stuff we already know happened, so it’s not so spoilery. Time will tell, but I’m not too stressed over that kiss right now. Even if it does happen in present day, as has been said repeatedly, NL is messing with Emma’s head, so if she’s kissing either guy in present day, I dunno that it could be evidence of anything conclusive for either ship.
My least favorite moment was when young Alice gets home and is all excited, and her father is very cool saying she’s been away a long time. If my child was missing and they suddenly showed up, I’d be hugging them and crying. But I guess it sets up the father for turning her over to the asylum later. The psycho doctor did say that she wasn’t loved when young.
For a moment, I wondered exactly how long Alice had been gone for, and if there’s some time discrepancy between worlds thing going on, because when the father answers the door, he’s looking up, at adult eye level, like he was expecting Alice to be a lot taller. So perhaps he was in shock that she’d been gone for a very long time, but she still looked the same age. Dunno if that would work though, because that would have been a pretty obvious indication that there had been something magical going on, and Alice wasn’t just talking crazy, which is what people seem to believe. I’d say that the doctor was in the know about WL and trying to shut Alice down from the time she was a child, but he seemed genuinely surprised at seeing the Rabbit, so I’m not sure that that crack theory holds any water either.
When Will sees the wanted poster, I kept expecting him to say something about not getting his nose right.
That would have been a fun little Tangled shout out. 😆
