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In order for their LGBT character to work apart from being the lone “gay token character” cliche network TV has a bad habit of doing they would have to open up his few episodes with an arc and love of his own. Raphael Sbarge was speculated prior to Eric’s casting to be their LGBT originally. He has also been seen filming most likely for the episode dealing with Regina’s adopting Henry back story episode. I’d imagine this could also be a way to begin laying down the ground work for a possible run in with Eric in SB with the assistance of Pongo and…. Max.
During the discussion we previously had about this topic, I decided that if Prince Eric is gay, he should be with Archie, so he still ends up with a redhead even if it’s not Ariel. 😉 Seriously though, people have speculated about Archie for ages, because he’s never been connected to anyone of either gender romantically. There was an interview somewhere recently where K&H said something along the lines of, “Our gay character may even be someone we’ve already met.” Like you say, they’re re-introducing Archie a bit with the adoption storyline. And just the other day, Raphael RTd this pic of himself…
.@RaphaelSbarge standing up for #marriageequality @ the #Emmys! #lgbt pic.twitter.com/z7RnwkqbYW
— Lambda Legal (@LambdaLegal) September 22, 2013
[adrotate group="5"]Alex96401212: Can we expect a lot of flashback about Emma’s past in Once Upon a Time? We want to see more of that.
Then you definitely won’t want to miss the first two minutes of Sunday’s season premiere! Fans will be treated to a very special Emma-centric scene in which we flashback to 11 years ago. Hmm… interesting. Isn’t Henry 11 years old? What a magical coincidence! And speaking of magic, let’s just say that Emma’s powers have been with her long before her trip to Storybrooke. Check back to E! Online for more Once Upon a Time spoilers later this afternoon!http://au.eonline.com/news/462886/spoiler-chat-scoop-on-breaking-bad-once-upon-a-time-sons-of-anarchy-s-h-i-e-l-d-and-more
Is something magical gonna happen during the birth scene?Excellent point, kranen! Could be an effective way for them to show the time difference.
This would mean that whatever Rumbelle “meeting” happens in 302, it’s not anything that Belle initiates from SB somehow, it’s just gonna be some sort of thing where Rumple imagines or dreams about her.
If Ariel’s gonna pop into SB from NL, with knowledge of what’s been going on there since the JR arrived, that could be another way they could reinforce that time difference, if she fills Belle in on everything that’s been happening, but for Belle, only a day or so has passed.
Something that came out of that most recent batch of spoilery articles…
“Neal is very important to many characters in the show right now, who are behaving in certain ways under the belief that he’s dead.”Including Emma, who softens (a bit) to Hook’s charms. Although Horowitz is quick to caution that it won’t be smooth sailing for that particular ‘ship. “The whole ‘ship thing is an awesome thing fans bring to the experience of watching a show, but the story we’re telling encompasses the relationships between all the characters — and the bigger emotional story as well.” Although Kitsis adds, “They think Neal’s dead, and Hook is a man who obviously likes ladies. And as we saw last year when they climbed the beanstalk, Emma has captured his heart a little bit, but Neal is fighting like hell to get a second chance with her … although Emma is focused on Henry [and] her heart has been broken too many times to worry about dating right now. But we’ll see, she’s got two handsome guys!”
The way I interpret that is that, “bigger emotional story as well,” lines up with all the “grand scheme of it all” stuff we’ve been discussing in relation to SF’s overall story. They’ll develop Hook and Emma’s connection and closeness, and it will in part be based on each of their relationships with Neal, which means that by the time he shows up again, they’ll both have a greater understanding of and appreciation for him, and they’ll both want to reconnect and mend their relationships with him because “the story we’re telling encompasses the relationships between all the characters”. So the CS relationship will ultimately play a role in the “bigger emotional story,” of SF (and CaptainFire) coming back together in the long run.
Once Upon A Time Season 3 opens with a flashback to the birth of Henry, showing the progression for Emma from being someone who chose not to be a mother vs. now, when she wants to be one… even though both times involve losing him.
Making us cry within the first few seconds. Excellent! Good to have that confirmed. I pity the spoilerphobes who will tune in completely unprepared for how they’re gonna have their hearts torn out right from the getgo.
The joy of having a character like Neal, who lived for so long in the “real world,” means we have a character who is well aware of the… “other media” versions of the characters. There’s a shoutout to one of those animated movies in the premiere; the first two episodes also reference how Captain Hook looks in the Peter Pan movie.
YES! Oh, if only our Hook could see what our world has always thought he looked like. 😆
As for Mr. Gold/Rumple, Horowitz teases, “The Rumple character poster says, ‘Believe you can change your fate.’ And whether you can or can’t, is kind of a core dilemma for him [this season]. He’s being ripped back and forth between this prophecy, which says the boy will be his undoing, and the fact that the boy is his blood. What are his priorities? What’s he going to do? How’s he going to wiggle his way out of this? Can he wiggle his way out of this?” Kitsis adds, “[Rumple] believes he has nothing left to live for. He believes he’s responsible for the death of his son. Neal is very important to many characters in the show right now, who are behaving in certain ways under the belief that he’s dead.”
Calling it now, Rumple’s gonna break my heart in every scene he’s in! Robert must be getting some seriously juicy stuff to sink his teeth into this season, and I can’t wait to see him portraying Rumple’s inner struggle more intensely than we’ve ever seen before!
Peter Pan is an interesting story, and I think as it slowly unfolds…he’s a sick, twisted kid…He gets in your head and says ‘Oh what is the thing that you’re most insecure about? I’m going to exploit that!’” Kitsis said.
So seriously excited to see their PP. I already love to hate him, and haven’t even seen him yet. He sounds like such a diabolical little $#&%!!!
The third season premiere of Once Upon A Time gives Henry a brief flashback moment (the first of what producers promise to be at least a few this season with a core one coming in episode nine to show how he got adopted) to see the origins of his specialness, and yes, some of the magic within him comes from his genes. But more of it comes from the fact that he genuinely believes– in magic but also in those around him.
Magical Henry! Yes!
There are five people on the Jolly Roger: Emma, Snow, Charming, Regina and Hook. Four out of those five throw punches at one another in the season opener.
Was the whiteboard spoiler about Snow clocking Charming from 301?
An action-packed, death-filled ten minute segment. Uh-oh…
Wonder if this is on land, or if it’s the mermaid attack? Another article said there’d be lots of mermaids, and we’ve seen them shooting canons into the water, so perhaps there are quite a few casualties? If it’s on land, then I’m gonna guess it’s Lost Ones vs GOAT, and at least one of GOAT will die. Though I’m more inclined to think that the fatal wounding in 302 is about GOAT, so am inclined to think that the death filled 10 mins is about mermaids.
“Your belief of love wasn’t strong enough to overcome your fear of rejection.”
This is so Mulan talking to Neal. Reminiscent of her telling Belle, “Once I found something worth fighting for, I fought for it with everything that I had. I never gave up.”
A reference to Merlin and Excalibur?!
Guess this is gonna be the other realm that gets namechecked? So not Oz? Perhaps this is why whatshisname who plays Lancelot had said he was gonna be back? Maybe that was in their original plan, but they tweaked it so that Arthurian stuff is only mentioned, not actually shown?
The Darling family will also be “integral” to the story overall and to Tinkerbell’s specifically,
This all but confirms for me that Glasses and Keychain will be the Darling boys. They reference the Darling family being important, so that means we’re gonna see more than just Wendy again. Then having a particular connection to Tink, hmmmmm, wonder what that’s all about? Maybe Tink helps them get to NL as they’re searching for Bae?
Warning: there is an incredibly heartbreaking scene between Snow and Emma. Have kleenex at the ready … you’ll need it.
I’m now firmly on the team that believes the scene of Emma yelling at someone to either help or get out of her way, she’s directing that primarily at Snow.
Here’s what I think will happen: Emma will have decided to give up Henry soon after she finds out she’s pregnant. She’s in jail, and has no prospects for when she gets out, so she will feel that giving Henry up for adoption will be “giving him his best shot” a for sure parallel between how Snow and Charming felt putting her in the wardrobe. But maybe she has second thoughts the moment after he’s born, a very common theme especially in tv shows. But, the nurse and/or doctor convince her that’s the right thing to do, and there’s a heartbreaking scene of her letting Henry go. And then we see in Ep9 that the same nurse and doctor are connected to THO, and pass baby Henry on to August/Tink/whoever it is that actually brings him to SB/Gold/Regina. Further confirming that this was a a major ploy to get Henry into the right place at the right time.
Sounds about right to me!
So much spoilery goodness! I’m so jealous of all these people who have seen the first two eps already! GAH!
In regards to Eric, a few of us have discussed before the possibility that he could be their LGBT character. Sounds totally crack on the surface of it, I know, BUT, it’s believed that Hans Christian Anderson wrote The Little Mermaid as a means of expressing homosexual feelings he had for a man who had just become engaged:
Rictor Norton, in My Dear Boy: Gay Love Letters through the Centuries, theorizes that The Little Mermaid was written as a love letter by Hans Christian Andersen to Edvard Collin. This is based on a letter Andersen wrote to Collin, upon hearing of Collin’s engagement to a young woman, around the same time that the Little Mermaid was written. Andersen wrote ”I languish for you as for a pretty Calabrian wench… my sentiments for you are those of a woman. The femininity of my nature and our friendship must remain a mystery.” Norton interprets this as a declaration of Andersen’s homosexual love for Collin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_little_mermaid#Psychoanalytic_interpretations
So, basically, the whole unrequited love story where the mermaid longs to be with a man who ends up marrying someone else, is quite possibly a reflection of what Anderson was experiencing in his life at the time.Adam recently tweeted that the fandom uproar over the LGBT character issue had no bearing on what they had planned, so when it happens, it’s because it’s what they were already planning to do, not because they’re bowing to the uproar. It sounded like they were already working on this storyline, at the very least had it in mind for some point in the not too distant future. When they’re dealing with so many characters who have previously established, straight endgames, if they’re gonna do an LGBT storyline, they’re gonna have to switch up an endgame we’re all used to at some point. With The Little Mermaid, there would actually be a basis for it that they could work with, to incorporate it into their version of the story, and in doing so, could provide a realisation of what’s believed to be the original inspiration for the story. It could actually be a lovely way for them to honour Anderson’s original intent. It would allow them to tell the story of unrequited love, without having Eric run off and marry some other woman and have people hate him for having rejected Ariel.
Anyway, I’m not saying I’m 100% convinced that that’s where they’re gonna go with Eric, I’m just saying that I think it’s a possibility worth considering, because they’ve said we’re getting an LGBT character, and there’s actually an LGBT association with this particular story.
Unless ONCE takes a REAL nose dive in the ratings (probably falling below 4 million and 1.5 ratings share)
Which I’d say is rather unlikely, so we should be good to go for S4. WOOT! 🙂
Snow’s looks awesome!!
How did they manage to get one batch of photos so right, when the other batch was SO wrong?
Do you guys remember the opening 19 mins? Wasn’t she walking through SB after the Curse was lifted?
Just went to check. It’s got Rumple summoning the Wraith, then the Charmings in Gold’s shop when stuff started shaking, then the Wraith flying down the street, then the Knave walking into Granny’s while Grumpy yells at him. No Cinderella in the original pilot.
Can someone please add WL after the title so people won’t be getting confused as if this is Once or WL. I don’t think a lot of people understand what 1.01, 1.02 ect mean besides some people might just want to see WL and not Once and visa versa
Is it really THAT much of a chore to hit the back button if you accidentally click on a thread you’re not really interested in?
