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Wow. You’ve really thought that through!
We way over think everything around here. It’s how we roll. Welcome to the madness. 😆
Some speculated maybe the Shadow is a separate entity that took over Pan
Or even that the Shadow is a previous “Pan”. If the Wraith could maybe be a previous Dark One that Rumple could summon, maybe it works the same with the Shadow of the previous Pan, (though we don’t even know yet if there’s been more than one Pan…this particular theory relates to how PP traditionally carries a dagger, which Rumple also has, so maybe they’re similar beings).
As for Emma, I do not believe her job as “Savior” is done, because we have not hit the “final battle” of the prophecy. I don’t think we will until the end of the series.
I’ve recently started thinking that the “final battle” is gonna be whatever goes down with PP trying to kill Henry, and Rumple trying to sacrifice himself to save Henry, and Henry ultimately exhibiting some sort of magic of his own that makes both of the baddie’s dark powers go *POOF*. PP thinks his prize in this deal is gonna be bonus power. Rumple thinks he’s gonna die. But really, the prophecy is about “undoing” the darkness of both Pan and the Dark One, and Henry’s the special kid who has what it takes. I’m sure Emma’s magic will still play a role in all the NL happenings somehow, but when it comes to the climax of the storyline, I’m (currently) envisioning it all being about Rumple and PP, with Henry in the middle.
No, sorry but that’s not ringing right with me. They do everything on this show for a reason right? They could have called her a mother or something.
They couldn’t label only one of Emma or Regina as a “Mother” though, and each character needs their own little label.
Also in season 2 Emma is wondering about her role as the Saviour when the four of them were stuck in Rumple’s cell. That makes me think her role of “The Saviour” is not done, because why would A+E include that conversation otherwise?
That’s a fair point. I’ve always just though of Emma in that scene as feeling defeated, so her “some Saviour, huh” is just, “here I was thinking I was pretty cool for breaking the Curse and slaying a dragon, but it turns out I suck, huh.”
Who let him know that I wonder? Possibly *cough*Rumple*cough*
Rumple was likely in NL at some point after becoming the Dark One because it’s likely where the Curse originated, (and I also think he was briefly there as a child too), but I dunno that he knew Bae was there at the time, because I think if Rumple knew Bae was there, he’d have been trying to get him outta there, instead of looking for a way to our world. But if Hook could deduce who Bae was from what he said about his father, odds are that PP could figure out who Bae was as well, just by talking to Rumple.
Lets not talk about the ending of the show *sniffles*
Deal! 😉
Thanks for that!
No worries. 🙂
[adrotate group="5"]Yeah, I’m assuming the article was all lined up and ready to go live at a certain time, and someone forgot to include the pic with it. Hopefully it’ll get fixed up ASAP so we can see her.
It’s all part of PP’s grand plan, if this is the case. Rumple needed the wand and needed to be locked into jail and ths way how he went about it. I wonder if that means Blue didn’t elevate Ella’s FGM but the FGM became what she was through Tink’s gifting of the wand.
Or the FGM stole it and kicked Tink to NL in the process? Then when Rumple was in NL at some point, he commented on Tink not having a wand, and she told him what happened and who took it, so he looked for it once he was back home.
He probably flirted with her and she’s P’O’d at him because he used her in some way, perhaps to get out of NL.
Traditionally, the JR gets out of NL by flying, using pixie dust from Tink. I can see Hook having sweet talked her into giving him some.
Hm. I’m not particularly buying that at the moment, simply because they are still calling Emma “The Saviour”. That means her role is not done, at least in my eyes. If she’s being called the Saviour just because she’s going to save her son, then all the rest – Hook, Snowing, Rumple, Regina – should be called saviours as well.
Which is why I also said it’s probably more about marketing. Weren’t they labeling Rumple as “A Wizard” at one point? It was all, “There’s a Saviour, a Pirate, a Wizard,” etc. Labels to make them sound like a team of heroes, and Emma’s label always has been, always will be, “Saviour”.
Oh the irony – PP locked Bae up even though he was going to have Henry in the future. I wonder how Bae left Neverland?
I think PP let Bae leave at just the right time so he’d be able to meet up with Emma, because PP got clued in that Bae was gonna be the baby daddy of the kid in the picture.
Seriously though, I really think her role hasn’t ended. She has that magic for something – it hasn’t really been utilised yet. It wouldn’t surprise me if she turns out to be stronger than PP, Rumple and Regina.
Like RG said, Emma is more powerful than the lot of them put together. We’ll for sure see her learning exactly what her magic is all about, and how to use it. I expect that’ll be an ongoing journey for her, for however long the show lasts.
P.S. Does anyone know how I can break up a quote so that I can write responses in between sentences?
You just need to put the quote tags around whatever text you wanna quote. So: [ quote]TEXT[/ quote] (without the spaces before the q’s, had to put those in so the code shows up).
If Tink’s wand looks the same, then yeah, I’d guess that Ella’s FGM got it from Tink somehow, as opposed to there being two different wands that look the same. I imagine Tink’s wand as being green, with leaves etched up the handle.
About the wand…I dunno. It would mean that Tink had a wand that looked exactly like Ella’s FGM’s wand, and I reckon each fairy probably has her own, unique wand. Also, when I think of what Tink’s wand might look like, I don’t imagine sapphire blue with bling. With any luck, if the pic ever shows up, she’ll have her wand so we can see what it looks like.
“And although her heart is usually in the right place, she is mischievous.”
Doesn’t sound like a “bad” or “dark” fairy IMO. She must be relatively trustworthy if Hook is gonna suggest she can help them. He doesn’t have a good personal track record when it comes to trust, but right now, he knows the stakes, and he wants to help save Bae’s son, Milah’s grandson, so he’s not gonna suggest enlisting the help of Tink if he thinks she’ll screw them over.
Viewers will see Tinker Bell in different stages of her life, including during interactions with the Blue Fairy and the Evil Queen, says exec producer Adam Horowitz. “Tink has gone through an evolution in our story. She begins in one place and ends in another.”
Physically one place and then another? We’ve all been suspecting as much, so hopefully that’s what they mean. If so, how and when did she switch worlds, and in which world was her interaction with Regina?
And finally, the most important question of all…wasn’t there meant to be a freaking photo of her to go with that article? With a headline including, “First Look At”, I’d say yes.
Was Henry kidnapped in order to bring the Saviour to Neverland?
This has been discussed a bit before, (though buggered if I remember what thread it was in), and I sorta liked the idea, but ended up deciding against it, because I think that Henry is needed in his own right as a “Saviour” for NL. If PP just needed Emma, he would have had Emma kidnapped instead of jumping through hoops to get Henry.
Given that in ASOTM, Felix told Bae that he was lucky he’d get to live, I think that Henry is probably needed in some sort of sacrificial way to rejuvenate NL. In a recent post, PriceofMagic suggested that PP might pretend to be Henry’s friend, until such time as he backstabs him, and I could definitely see that happening. If PP tells Henry that it’s his destiny to save NL, Henry would think it’s the coolest thing ever, because his mum saved SB, and now he gets to do the same thing, and be a hero just like he’s been dreaming of.
As for why PP needs Henry in particular, I think it’s because of his unique genetic makeup. His mother is True Love Incarnate, inherently magical, and I think Bae’s bloodline was required because there’s a blood tie between PP and Rumple being brothers. (Not everyone buys into that brothers crack theory, but it’s my current headcanon.) The magic from Emma, plus the blood from Bae, makes Henry the only kid who ever lived who could do whatever it is PP needs to be done.
Their continued promotion of Emma as “The Saviour” probably has more to do with marketing than anything else. They had to give each member of the JR6 a “label” to make them sound like a snappy little team of avengers, and Emma was already known as “Saviour”. That being said, she is going to save Henry, so she’s technically still acting like a Saviour, if not the Saviour in this case.
@Nikki_EOutlook @onceuponamirror @onceabc alas, no
— William Keck (@StepUponAStar) September 2, 2013
No PP. Bummer.@Carollattufe @mirzaoliveira @onceabc your prayers will soon be answered.
— William Keck (@StepUponAStar) September 2, 2013
Tink! YAY.I’ve never put much stock in the theory that Ariel and Eric could be Hook’s parents. Seems highly unlikely IMO, my Hookriel shipper sensibilities aside. I just don’t see them having another character apart from Emma also having a long lost parent being the same age as them, which is where they’d have to go with it if they plan to have Ariel as Hook’s mother in present day. That would diminish Emma’s uniqueness, and I really don’t think they’d go there. And I also can’t imagine them waiting this long to show Ariel, only to reduce her to a supporting role in Hook’s flashbacks.
After the casting call for 305 came out it did sound potentially like “Liam” could be Killian’s father and/or Eric. The description of a dark haired sailor could fit either of those characters. But then we heard that Eric is being cast for 306, so even if Liam’s related to Killian, he’s not Eric.
Someone posted on tumblr, the casting call info for Eric, accompanied by a gravestone with Hookriel written on it. Charming. Pffft. Thankfully someone replied that that was uncalled for, because we actually have no idea how Eric is gonna fit into the storyline yet, so the mere fact he’s gonna be there in some capacity, doesn’t actually rule out of the possibility of Hookriel.
