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We don’t know for sure how old he was, but I’m guessing around 18-ish so they can have Colin play his younger self like they’ve done with other characters.
I like the idea of there being a specific reason that he doesn’t like mermaids. Something like a crewmate or Captain of his being killed by mermaids would work quite nicely. Make that someone be Eric, and it would entwine Hook and Ariel’s history and give them something to overcome in order to be together.
[adrotate group="5"]Can we talk about which character Ariel has a connection with? I predict it’s going to be Regina, who has been pegged as Ursula by many, many fans. “You never really know who is Ursula” pretty much means it’s going to be a mash-up with an already established character vs a new casting.
I was sold on Regina being Ursula when I recently noticed that the ep where Regina mentions dealing with a mermaid is the same ep where she has the streak of differently coloured hair going up the side of her head. That’s an Ursula thing.
Hook is one of the core characters, and is a permanent fixture in the cast. The only reference to 5 eps is that they said we’ll find out how he became a pirate within the first 5 eps, and because we already knew the centric characters for up to 304, naturally, 305 must be Hook’s centric ep.
These posters seriously make no sense. The Regina pics are old. The apple thing has nothing to do with NL. We know they’ve taken new promo pics recently. So I dunno what they’re trying to get at with these lame excuses for S3 posters.
Assuming that Liam = Eric and also Killian’s father (real or adoptive), like I said, I think the age would be off for Ariel/Eric. It would potentially fit better for Hookriel, because if it’s a flashback to Killian’s youth, when his father was 35, (Liam casting call specifies 35), Ariel may well have been around the same age as Killian back then, (I’m not assuming we’ll see her in 305, I’m just speculating who was in the same part of what world and when), could have followed him, watching from afar as he went about his piratey ways, and then she went through the same portal the JR did when he went to NL, and so their ages match in present day.
But they’re not gonna have Eric and then not involve him with Ariel at all. But maybe Liam isn’t Eric? But the dark hair. And the sailor thing. And the timing of Liam appearing immediately before Ariel’s debut. And Hook told Bae that he and his father boarded a ship together. So if Liam’s a Navy Captain, and he’s part of Killian’s story, I could see Killian having been the Captain’s son. Unless he and his father stowed away on Captain Liam’s ship? Or could there have been jobs for civilians on a Navy ship?
If Eric was just the Captain who Killian and his father worked for, then his father went and abandoned him, perhaps Eric took the kid under his wing after that, so they were friends and he became more like a big brother, as opposed to a father figure? If Ariel had had her eye on Eric, but he died, I could see her attentions then turning towards Killian instead, (who she already had an affection for, because she’d seen him while she was watching Eric, and she knew he was someone Eric cared for). Perhaps?
Actually, it could fit well if it’s mermaids who kill Eric, and because Ariel doesn’t want the same thing to happen to Killian, she then sticks to him to watch over him. Maybe she became human to be with Eric, but it was only ever a one sided crush, unrequited love, and the fact that she wasn’t a mermaid when mermaids took Eric, meant that she had no hope of trying to save him. In Anderson’s, Ariel’s sisters do try to convince her to kill the prince so she can return to being a mermaid, so there’s a basis for mermaids wanting Eric dead. Maybe in the Onceiverse, they decide to kill him themselves instead of trying to convince Ariel to do it? And if Killian witnessed this, mermaids killing someone he looked up to as an older brother, that could be where his bias against mermaids stems from.
I don’t think Hook is from FTL originally. I think Ariel may be a portal jumper and she brought him there. She herself of course is either from NL, or she gets stuck there during the curse.
I suspect she’s gonna be from NL, just going by K&H saying, “We all know that NL has mermaids.” I’ve been a fan of the idea that merfolk can realm jump for ages. Sometimes I veer away from the idea a bit with my theory making, but I do think it’s a believable idea they could include.
Haven’t ever considered that Hook isn’t originally from FTL.
Saw those on tumblr last night and figured they must be fan made. But they’re on the official FB page? I am officially perplexed.
At least with “The Little Mermaid”, the writers can point to the fact that the original was indeed quite different than the Disney version. Look at how they’re twisting Peter Pan. I think some percentage of fandom who were raised on the romance of Eric and Ariel will be highly put out and vocal, but this is a show of twisted fairy tales. It would be surprising, but not shocking of Eric isn’t Ariel’s ultimate true love.
I think they could do it, but I think they’d have to kill him instead of having him choose someone else. Of course, Eric fans would still be pissed if he was killed off, but I’d have to think that’s still a preferable option to having him choose someone who isn’t Ariel.
Part of me thinks that the new spoiler blurb mentioning Eric being cast is a hint that Liam = Eric. With that casting call info already out there, perhaps this new info was put out there to confirm what Liam’s name really is? If so, and if as everyone has been assuming, he’s gonna be in a flashback to Killian’s youth, and if Ariel was also around at the same time as Eric/Liam, and if she’s mid-30s in present day NL…that would probably mean she was a bit young for Eric/Liam back in the day, because he’s being cast as 35. That’s a lot of “if”s though, so who knows.
Anyway, if they don’t have Ariel end up with Eric, they can certainly say that that jives with the Anderson version, where the mermaid didn’t end up with her prince. And that can leave it open for Hookriel to happen, with it being a 2nd chance at love for both of them.
Funny how different Hookriel shippers take this either as bad news, or good news. LOL My initial reaction was pretty much the same as RG’s. There may or may not have been expletives uttered. 😛
I’ve never been an Eric fan so I’m 100% a fan of his only being in the past. It just fits with the feeling of Once to have Ariel’s story with Eric combine both the Disney and Anderson version. Plus, I’m just so into Hookriel atm. I’m so glad there are other Hookriel fans. It’s such a crackship and shot down often that it’s nice just to have others who are open to the idea.
I know people will hate it, but the thought that Ariel doesn’t get her happy ending with her prince is fascinating. And it’s time to jerk another character around in the romantic department besides Rumbelle.
I’ve been saying that if they have Eric, I doubt they’d have him marry someone else, and right now I’m sticking with that. In the movie, Vanessa was Ursula, and in the original, his bride was just some unnamed princess. If they’re gonna marry Eric off to someone other than Ariel, that will mean introducing another new character and establishing her enough to show why Eric chose her instead, and I dunno that they’d do that if they’re trying to keep the number of characters reined in this season. While I don’t think they’d have Eric marry someone else, I could see them killing him off, so Ariel’s love was doomed, in keeping with the Anderson version, (I’ve always hoped they’d borrow from both versions of the story).
Now, let’s say Liam is Eric. I’ve been saying I’m convinced that Liam will be Killian’s father, most likely bio-dad, but potentially adopted dad. Last night I posted that perhaps if this Liam guy was an orphan, if he found baby Killian, maybe he adopted him so he wouldn’t have to suffer the same fate of growing up alone. If Liam is Eric, and also Killian’s father, the shipper in me needs for them to not be related by blood. 😛
I’m still not on board with Ariel and Eric being his parents for other, non-shipper reasons though. The main reason I’m opposed to the theory is I’m just not a fan of Hook meeting his mother in present day NL and her being the same age as him, because having parents your same age is Emma’s thing, and should remain unique to Emma, otherwise it dilutes and cheapens her special-ness and her particular struggle.
It will certainly be interesting to see who gets cast as “Liam”, and if they reveal a different name for the character when the actor is announced.
Robert Carlyle has already said in an interview that the kid playing PP looks like him, even without the makeup, and he mentioned his big ears. That’s what convinced us all that that’s who Robbie Kay is playing.
