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ParticipantOh, I don’t know @PriceofMagic. I think Neal was trying to fill a void in his life and was overcome by fear of seeing Emma again. And there was Tamara all shiny and happy and joyful and so he clung to her in an effort to lesson the guilt he feels. I don’t think it was genuine at all.
Yep, that.
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ParticipantPriceofMagic wrote:I think another red-flag for Robin would be dating someone with “evil” in their nickname.
True. Robin Hood seems like a noble character, both in legend and on the show. He only stole magic from Rumple in order to save the life of his wife and unborn child. He seems to be in the same league as Snow White and Prince Charming, who only sent their baby daughter to our world to give her her best chance. While I’ve grown to like Regina and even root for her to do the right thing, it would take a lot of redemption on Regina’s part for Robin to esteem her and admire her, let alone love her. Killing Tamara, no matter how much Tamara might deserve it, would be a bridge too far is Tamara is indeed Robin’s daughter.
Do you think that ultimately, Regina will get her happy ending? Personally, I think she will, and that means that at some point, someone is gonna have to come along and bring out the good person she once was. They can’t give Regina her happy ending with someone who just lets her be evil and miserable. She has to get back to the person she originally was.
They’ve already put her through a lot of loss and heartbreak, so I think that towards the back half of this season, if she’s involved with a romance, it will be a positive relationship for her. Right now, they have no guarantees beyond S3, so if they want to set up a functional, potential happy ending relationship for her at any point, I think they’d be looking to set it up this season. That way, if (God forbid) they don’t get a S4, at least they’ve brought her more or less full circle and can end on a positive note for her. If they put it off for another season, there’s no guarantee they’ll get the chance to give her some happiness.
So we need someone good, who would give her a chance. Like I’ve said before, I can’t imagine anyone who suffered directly under her rule would want to give her a real chance. But if she ruled the Enchanted Forest, and Robin lived in Sherwood Forest, perhaps he never saw her evil acts first hand, and could therefore be that person who might be willing to let her prove herself.
If, during her time with Robin, Snow told this story…
When I was younger, the horse I was riding, ran away with me. I was about to be thrown, and I would have been killed. This woman, she had no idea who I was, she came charging after me. She saved me. She risked her own life, and changed me. My mother always told me to keep goodness in my heart, and this woman proved that she was right. It taught me that there can be this genuine, selfless connection between people, even strangers.So, say that’s all that Robin has ever heard of Regina. That she changed Snow White, the kindest, fairest person out there, Regina changed her for the better. And he’s the only person alive who knows that story about Regina, apart from Snow (and Charming). We’ve seen how many chances Snow has given Regina, because she just couldn’t give up the hope that original-recipe-good-hearted-Regina is still buried in there somewhere. So why couldn’t Robin potentially be the one man who could give Regina a chance too, if that’s what his preconceived opinion is of her?
(Yes, I know I’m making some assumptions, but I’ve never had any positive potential headcanon involving Regina before, so I’m just going all out. :-P)
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ParticipantThe issue thus far with RegalHood is that they’ve never met but Regina’s love interest is supposed to enter into this story pretty quickly, but we know RH is in SB with Belle. Unless Regina’s love interest/love story doesn’t start until she gets back from NL, which makes sense. *rubs head* I don’t know anymore.
Yeah, I’m assuming the relationship wouldn’t happen until after Regina is back in SB, because, really, I just can’t imagine her mind being on romance while she’s in NL, hell bent on saving her son. So any romance she’s gonna be involved in, no matter who it’s with, has to come after NL, IMO.
Everything has been suggesting that the guy will be a new character. Would they stick some new guy in NL and have Regina fall for him before the audience even knows him? Or would they establish him in his own right when she’s not around, and then have them meet at a later date? The latter option makes more sense to me. Regina is a major character who the audience is incredibly passionate about. They can’t give her a random newbie who the audience doesn’t know or care about, because then the audience won’t think he’s worthy of her and the whole plot will be a total waste of time. We have to get to know who he is first.
As of right now, Robin is the only “new” adult male character we know of, in any land.
I agree that they won’t make Regina’s new love interest a woman. It’ll be like playing with lit matches near an ocean of gasoline (a flicker of light in an ocean of flammable liquid). SQ was ruled out with one of the reasons being Emma and Regina are both straight. If Regina was to suddenly show an interest in women then the SQers will be on Adam and Eddy’s cases saying why couldn’t Emma have been Regina’s love interest since they have chemistry blah blah blah. It’ll be like waving a red flag to a bull.
There does appear to be a growing number of people out there who are shipping Regina with Tink because, “Even if it’s not Emma, she has to be with a woman.”
Agreed! I had forgotten the fact Tamara was engaged to Neal! That would be so messed-up if she turns out to be Henry’s step-sister one day.
Here’s the thing though, show of hands who thinks Tamara is getting out of NL alive?
*crickets*
Who thinks they’re gonna (at least try to) make her sympathetic before she dies because she was just a brainwashed victim and didn’t really know what she was doing?
*applause*Throw in the fact that I don’t believe that Neal and Tamara’s relationship was genuine love for either of them, and all things considered, I dunno that the, “I was kidnapped by my step-sister who was engaged to my dad” thing would ever be a real issue. Once she’s dead, everyone will put her in the past. That may be hardest for Robin if he was her father and never knew her, but it doesn’t make it all squicky from everyone else’s point of view.
I’m not alone in my insanity, evidently. 😉 How is you padded room?
It’s super comfy and cozy! 😆
Ad SDCC Lana did say that her favorite kill as Regina was going to occur this season and most of us instantly went “Tamara!”
I still reckon Greg’s the one that Regina is gonna kill. Granted, that may be influenced by wishful thinking, because Regina killing Robin’s daughter would sink the ship, but I honestly do think that when it comes to which one of GOAT Regina feels more personal hatred towards, it’s Greg. Tamara’s really just more of an annoyance as far as Regina’s concerned. With Greg, it’s personal, from way back.
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ParticipantI wonder if Sarah is referring to her being on set last week instead of in the near future. With the P and M of MAP missing, she may not be on her way back at all.
Could be, I guess. The person who asked her was replying to her LAX haiku though, (doesn’t show in the embedded tweets, but if you go to her page you can view the conversation), and asked if she “going to film” and Sarah replied with a drawn out maybe and a wink. So I’m cautiously optimistic about her heading back to Vancouver. Guess we’ll find out sooner or later.
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ParticipantAdam has a way of luring us fans in but without giving away too much.
I have such a love/hate relationship with that man. Regularly wanna hug and slap him at the same time. 😛
Yet, the last sentence right there makes me believe PP is indeed the author of Henry’s book (i.e. mythology). Since Neverland is where imagination comes from, according to Eddy and Adam, then it would make a lot of sense if his book came from there, too.
I’ve been wondering the same since coming across a tumblr post the other day that brought up this quote…
Jefferson: And storybooks are based on what? Imagination? Where does that come from? It has to come from somewhere.
…and they connected it to how K&H have said that NL is where imagination comes from.
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ParticipantYep, that’s what it seems like.
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ParticipantNo matter her form, mermaid or human, if she saved Neal, people would understandably liken it to the Little Mermaid story. But it’d just be a fake out so they can shock us all when they eventually show her saving someone else in the past. 😛
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ParticipantThe idea of a perpetually bored, perpetual 17 year old, having to come up with ways to amuse himself, with no adults to tell him what he can and can’t do…no good can come from that.
Agreed about Ariel. The wait may kill me, but it’d make sense if they pace out the introduction of the new characters. Give us several eps to get accustomed to PP and Tink before showing us Ariel. I posted in the Little Mermaid thread just before, speculating about Neal arriving in NL in the water (again) and that being when they introduce us to mermaids. My headcanon has Ariel as human in present day, but even if so, I could see them not showing us Ariel until after they’ve shown us mermaids. I’d guess that Neal might get out of FTL just after the half way mark in this first block of eps?
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ParticipantCould be either, I guess. As of 15 hours ago, it seemed that Julian was in Alaska. No idea where Jamie is.
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ParticipantThis isn’t necessarily, specifically, Ariel related, but a random, mermaid related thought popped into my head.
Neal will end up making a portal through Lake Nostos. From what we’ve seen, if you go down a portal in water, you come out the other end in water. He ends up coming out of his portal in the water in NL. This time he doesn’t get fished out in time before…mermaids! And that will be the first time we see mermaids on the show.
I like that it’d parallel the previous time he arrived in NL, but don’t love that it’d mean no Nealfire and Belle stuff in SB while everyone else is away.
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