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ParticipantWas just posting in the ep13 spoilers where Naomi wondered if Helena could actually be Guinevere. Got me wondering if this Seer could potentially be Morgana.
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ParticipantThat’s an intriguing theory! It would certainly make sense for Lancelot to have been attracted to a woman who could do battle with fierce creatures, and it’d be nice if he was tempted to his ruin by more than just a pretty face.
Also, if they didn’t wanna let it slip that there’s gonna be a “Lancelot Lives!” reveal, it’d make sense for them to use a fake name in the casting call if this is Gwen.
Now I’m also wondering if the Seer character with the casting call for ep14 could potentially be Morgana.
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ParticipantYeah, something like that would certainly fit given that it’s gonna be about Victor’s family. Makes you wonder a bit about Victor’s relationship with his father, if they’ve switch up that quote for the title and put “brother” where you’d usually see “father”.
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ParticipantNicely done! I prefer your version of the dress to the actual one on the show. 😉
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ParticipantIn Dreamy, the way Blue said that fairy dust “powers the world” made it sound like a resource that gets distributed all over the place. If so, it’d need to be in a portable form, such as fairy dust. Perhaps all fairies with the ranking of Fairy Godmother had the ability to suck it up into their wand directly from the source, but that doesn’t do much good if non-Fairy Godmothers need a supply of it to work magic.
As for Blue not having put up a protective shield in the same way Cora did, that could be because she didn’t have the ability, or it could be because the curse playing out was all a part of Blue’s own grand design in some way. I’m not willing to rule out the latter.
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ParticipantThis part of the podcast got me thinking too…and it ended up making my head hurt. 😆
I like the idea that perhaps Cora was originally supposed to cast the curse, and that’s how she knew the specifics of it.
We don’t know the type of person she was before Regina was born, the type of person she was when she first met Rumple. Could she have been ravenous for power even then, which is why she entered into a deal, to become a queen? Could the idea about her having been King George’s wife be true, and if so, could she have been looking for a way out of that relationship if it didn’t end up being a happy one? Could Rumple have told her that he had a way for her to achieve all of that, the curse that would transport everyone to another land where she’d be the only one who’d remember and would rule over them all, including her un-loved husband, George?
The story of Rumple and the miller’s daughter goes that she had to give him her first born, though there’s not a reason given why he wants the child. Perhaps in actuality, it wasn’t quite that literal. Perhaps he told her that for her part in the deal, she had to sacrifice the one she loved most, which would be her first born child? In a way, she was still giving the child to him, because she was giving up the child for the sake of casting his curse.
But Cora couldn’t do it. When Regina came along, she loved her too much and couldn’t give her up, couldn’t kill her, couldn’t give her away, couldn’t bear to be without her. So instead Cora wrangled a way out the deal, and out of her marriage, and set up camp with Henry instead, and went about becoming as powerful as possible in an effort to protect Regina from Rumple, who was justifiably pissed off that his curse hadn’t been cast, and vowed to Cora that one day, Regina would be his, and one way or the other, his curse would be cast. And sure enough, many years later, that happened. Perhaps Regina was always destined to be the one to cast this curse, so even when she escaped being sacrificed for the sake of the curse as a baby, she still ended up being the one to cast it in the end.
Perhaps?
Or, on a different tangent…was Regina originally meant to be The Saviour, the one destined to break the curse when she turned 28, Rumple’s original safety valve plan? But Cora couldn’t give her up for that either. Or maybe Rumple realised after making the deal, that because Regina wasn’t the product of twu wuv, she simply wasn’t up to the task, and he needed to find a different baby instead. If so, then it makes it all the more tragic that Regina ultimately ended up on the complete opposite side of the situation.
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ParticipantIf that were their plan, (which I seriously doubt), they would have kept a plot point that major a closely guarded secret, especially this early in the season, and people who knew about it wouldn’t have been posting it on a public forum. For all the spoilers that are released, there are still twists that are kept secret. For example, we knew nothing about August’s involvement in Tallahassee, other than that Eion was in the official cast list for the ep, and everyone assumed we’d see him in present day SB, (how wrong were we). It was a major plot point, so they kept it under wraps. The same would apply for a major plot point like Hook’s impending death. It simply wouldn’t get leaked like that, so I wouldn’t put any credibility in a random forum post by an anoymous user.
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Participant@Oncewatcher wrote:
Why don’t writers get attached to tv characters, namely the ones they write about?
You don’t think writers get attached to their characters? Characters they imagined, they deisgned, they created, they breathed life into, they make up the stories for. I’m not a writer, but I would imagine that it’d be impossible for a writer to not become attached to their characters. That doesn’t mean they won’t put said characters through hell, it doesn’t mean they won’t kill them if necessary, but even if they feel the need to do that, that doesn’t meant they don’t still love and feel attached to the character. K&H still talk about how they love Graham, but he was always designed to serve his purpose in the story, and then die.
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Participant@tiara_rose wrote:
Or the show us cassandra in different times.
That would be my guess.
So in ep 13 we have a Helena who we pondered may have a link to Greek mythology, and in ep 14 we have this Seer who we’re speculating is Cassandra of Greek mythology. Hmmm.
Cassandra was the daughter of King Priam and Queen Hecuba and the twin sister of Helenus.
Helenus was a Trojan soldier and prophet in the Trojan War.
In Greek mythology, Helenus was the son of King Priam and Queen Hecuba of Troy, and the twin brother of the prophetess Cassandra.
Maybe they’ve switched it up for the show to make them twin sisters and Helenus became Helena, and they mashed up a bit of Helen of Troy in there while they were at it?
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Participant@phyrelight83 wrote:
OMG! When I saw the name Chad Michael Collins, I at first thought they had cast Chad Michael Murray. You have no idea how glad I am that my first impression was so wrong! LOL!
😆 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5E91iz-miY
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