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@PriceofMagic wrote:
Seeing this picture made me wonder whether the woman (Anita I think her name is) could be Red’s mother who was supposedly killed by a hunting party.
The Canadian promo seems to prove you right. Nice catch! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO_eaYgj9c0
[adrotate group="5"]That link just goes to the vid on the mobile site. Here’s a direct link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO_eaYgj9c0
Can’t wait for this ep!
These two were so sweet together, real kindred spirits, both being thieves but neither of them doing it for any other reason than to scrape by in life. It’s nice to know that he didn’t really screw her over, because that leaves it open for them to reunite easier. Mind you, even if he tells her what really happened, she could still be all, “So you just abandoned me instead of trying to find a way for us to stay together?! You can’t have loved me THAT much, then!” Neal believed August and went along with what he said after a single meeting. Emma thought August was a delusional liar no matter how much he tried to convince her. So I don’t think forgiveness and a reunion will be an instant thing.
If he is Bae, I was kinda hoping that Bae would have had a slightly darker edge to him after all his time in our world. So on the one hand, it’s a bit disappointing that he’s still such a good guy, but on the other hand, it’s nice that he didn’t get corrupted.
Dunno how much stock to put in the blatant shoutouts to Peter Pan, just because we know that the blatant shoutouts to Wizard of Oz were pure misdirection on the part of the writers last week, so they could have pulled the same stunt here too. Unless that’s what they want us to think and he will end up being Peter Pan.
Anyway, whoever he is, he’s gotta be from a magical world of some description, or there’s no way August would have been able to convince him.
@TinkerBellReturns wrote:
4) He doesn’t know about Henry. If he turns out to be Bae, then poor guy is likely to have a heart attack when he gets to SB?
“So, who is that talking to my father? My stepmother? Oh, I see. And the guy yelling at him? My father-in-law? What the–? Ok, nevermind, what about the kid?” —-> “My WHAT?” *drops dead*
😆
@AntBee wrote:
I know! Every time I think I can get a grip, someone mentions something else that gets me all emotional again. Like I saw a gif where the name Henry is on a keychain in the scene where Bae/Neal and Emma rob the store together, and I was like, oh no not again. 😥
Will have to keep an eye out for that when I re-watch.
Hook certainly loved Milah, the tattoo is proof of that. I don’t think that necessarily means that they won’t have him fall in love again though. Milah may have been Killian’s one true love, but he became a whole new person after her death, so they can give Hook a true love too.
I’ve been thinking a fair bit about the prospect of Hook and Ariel recently, and have come to really like the idea. Sort of decided that I want there to have been a rivalry between King Triton and Davy Jones, and then one day Triton’s daughter falls in love with Davy’s son in Neverland and because her father forbids it, she has to make the deal with Ursula to be with him, and they’ll have a grand old forbidden romance.
@TheGoldenKey wrote:
I believe we just saw how David will communicate with Snow in the other realm. Telepathic messages via Henry and his dreams.
Oooo, I like that idea!
@medchen wrote:
I’ve got an idea
Dreams are like a “portal” way to look in to fairytale land, because dreams and fairytales ARE related they both interpret something that goes on in human subcontiousness.Someone, (sorry I don’t recall who) recently posted on here that perhaps dreams that the writers of the stories in our world had, were how the stories ended up in our world. Now it seems that maybe there really IS some link between magical lands and our real world subconscious. That’s pretty cool!
@Glothr wrote:
By this logic we can gather that Aurora’s sleeping curse was most likely cast by Regina and maybe the red room is some sort of magical limbo your consciousness goes to when you’re under a sleeping curse. It could vary by who casts the curse and this just so happens to be Regina’s version of the room. If not, it might be a general side-effect from suffering a sleeping curse but since we only have a few cases to explore we can’t say for sure.
Well, I’d say that Maleficent is the one who cursed Aurora, but Regina did get that sleeping curse from Maleficent, so Maleficent’s the one who “created” the room. The flames would fit, considering she was a part time, fire breathing dragon.
@Glothr wrote:
However this does not explain why Henry seemingly saw Aurora in her nightmare and Aurora saw Henry in hers.
I hadn’t made that connection until reading your post, and now it seems so obvious I wanna slap myself for having missed it. Guess Snow had no eyes peering at her in her dream then.
I’m going to make you wait. You’re going to have to wait a long time and watch me carry it around. Hauling it to strange and mysterious places. And with each passing moment, the mystery will become more tantalizing. Your imagination will inflame, but so will your frustration. Never knowing – only guessing – what could possibly be inside that box?
…and then we were all relieved that he revealed the contents of the box in that same scene…but in the end, they still got us frustrated over the contents of that freaking box, the devious buggers. 😛 😆
@TheGoldenKey wrote:
I first thought it was a picture of the dagger but there is one nagging question that now bothers me. How would August know that Neal was Bae?
We know he later knew about Bae, possibly from encountering Bae out in the real world or getting his info from Blue. But how would he know back then that Neal was Bae?
See my post in the August thread. I just blabbed on for ages about how I think Blue was instructing August in this ep.
Gigi, sounds like we’re thinking along similar lines here. If it’s a page from the book, that Blue had written, and it was a page that related specifically to Neal, then that would convince him.
I had a peek at the forums before I’d had the chance to watch this ep. Saw the thread titles and was all, “YAY, more August!” Then read this thread and thought, “BAD, August!” Now I’ve had the chance to watch the ep.
I can totally see how people who were on the fence about the character given his previous actions would decide to officially hate him now. And of course, anyone who ships Emma and Neal(Bae?) will hate him, that’s a given. But as I already had a big soft spot for the character, this ep hasn’t turned me off him.
I don’t believe August was acting alone in this ep, I think he was acting under orders from Blue, (apart from the part where he took the money and ran, he totally deserved the shooting leg pains interrupting his fun times in Phuket), and she’s the one who wanted Emma and Neal split up. Pinocchio may be a bad boy, but if Blue found him in our world and put him in his place, he wouldn’t dare disobey her (again), so if she told him to go and split them up, and exactly how to do it, he’d have no choice but to comply.
After the events of this ep, especially if he’d done it all because Blue told him to, he likely felt like he wanted to get as far away from Emma and Blue and all of it as possible. First he left Emma as a baby and now he’s split her up from the guy she loves, and ratted on her to the cops, which landed her in jail. That’s gonna make the guy feel like crap. So he ran to Phuket, which I believe they’ve mentioned is the spot on the planet that’s the farthest away from SB, haven’t they? He ran as far as was humanly possible to try and escape. If Blue couldn’t get out of SB, then there’s no way she could follow him that far.
If he was working with Blue, and knew where she was, it would explain why he knew where to go 10 years later. It’d explain why he knew to go to Neal, because you’d think if he was acting on his own, he’d have just gone to Emma instead to try and get her back on the right track. How would August know who Neal was, or even if he was anyone special? Let’s assume that Neal is Bae, how would Pinocchio know that? How could he have ever found that out? None of the stories in our world about Rumplestiltskin tell about his past or his son, and all August had access to for information was the stories as they existed in our world. But it seems he did know who Neal was, that he was special in some way that would allow him to believe the story, and knew exactly what to show him in that box. How would August know that stuff about Neal? I don’t think he would. Blue would though. She’d know, and she’d have whatever item it was that August had in that box. How is August gonna access an item that would convince someone that FTL and Rumple’s curse was a true story? I just don’t see how he could have had the means to pull this scam off, unless he was being helped by someone with Blue’s status and knowledge.
@TheTrickster wrote:
If Emma was in prision, she would give her son to be adopted, Mr. Gold would bring him to Regina… and the clock goes on till Emma’s 28th birthday with all the pieces already in the chessboard. If Emma and Neal would start a live together, then Henry would grew up with them and the play never started.
And then we’d have no show. 😉 Henry had to be in SB to lure Emma there. I suppose if it was her destiny then maybe something else would have still got her there at the right time. But then, what exactly is destiny, and does it sometimes need a helping hand? Was it part of her destiny to have Henry, to be separated from him, and then be reunited, because it was all part of her life’s journey to get her to be the person she had to be to break the curse? Was all of that pre-determined somehow? Also, on a less mystical level, if outsiders can’t find SB, then maybe she needed Henry to take her there, so he had to be on the inside.
@Naomi wrote:
But maybe Emma had to find true love in Storybrooke. Maybe “the first-born child of Emma Swan” was written into the curse and had to be brought to Storybrooke in order for the curse to be broken.
Given that we’re talking about a curse created by Rumple, that’s certainly a possibility.
@hjbau wrote:
I think they are going to become irrelevant. They haven’t really become relevant, in my opinion.
I don’t think it makes sense for them to have been introduced for no real purpose. Assuming they intend to tell the actual Sleeping Beauty story at some point, which is a safe bet considering it’s one of the classics, they need to keep Aurora around so it can be told as part of her story, as it’s the story of her parents and would link in somehow to the sacrifice she spoke of, which led to her being Sleeping Beauty 2.0. They’ve already gone to the trouble of writing that line that foreshadowed her story, so they must have plans to tell it. And Mulan is one of the “Disney Princess” franchise, and is also an opportunity for them to introduce a new culture to the show, so I doubt they’d use her for a bit part and then just toss her aside. I believe they have more in store for both characters, so need to keep them tied to the main characters right now to keep them involved.
Doesn’t the communication happen in Ep 9 anyways and not after the return?
Charming will communicate with Snow while she’s in FTL, and it’ll be a perilous process of some description. Considering that fact, they’re hardly going to risk doing it again just to get in touch with Aurora and Mulan if they’re left behind.
@Lil’Red wrote:
I’m in the microscopic minority that thinks this is Jack (the casting call fits into the time frame of MRJ being cast), he’s described as a ‘thief’, Emma mentioned Jack’s story in the 3rd sneak peek as him having either a golden goose or golden harp – he apparently had a golden swan and a yellow bug…
That’s a cool little connection! 😉 I agree that the casting call for Jack was for Neal. Still think we may get the actual Jack and the Beanstalk story at some point though, whether it’s this character, or some separate character who is actually named Jack. Apparently Jorge Garcia has been given notice that he’ll be in another ep, and I think that’ll likely be the actual Jack and the Beanstalk story ep.
