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@AntBee wrote:
@Naomi wrote:
If they’re going to throw in Mystery Man this early, then the Emma-and-Mary Margaret imposters would be an interesting situation for him to run into. Apart from Henry – who is always a clever little genius 😉 – Mystery Man might be the one to realize something’s off. I think Cora has a talent for observing people and copying their mannerisms; so much so that she was able to trick Mulan into thinking she was Lancelot.
But how would gleaning information and scheming work if no one else in Storybrooke knew about “Neal Cassady”? There’s no way for her to get that information or find out who he is. If Emma failed to react to him, it might set alarm bells off in his head. It also might act as the perfect catalyst to reveal his true identity to Henry. (If he is, Henry’s father. :D)
Plus, yes as a believer that Baelfire is Henry’s father and hopeful that SwanFire happens, if Emma and Snow are really Hook and Cora, it sets up the opportunity for father and son to bond and father to get to redeem himself to son and mom for whatever happened. I don’t know that it will be enough at least in Emma’s eyes to set up a romantic relationship this early, but at least maybe they could go from loathing/not liking each other to at least friends.
The more I think about it, Hook posing as Emma could mess up the mother/son/father dynamic quite nicely and create some delicious drama.
We’re assuming that the Mystery Man will be Henry’s father and will soon be in SB. It’s highly probable he doesn’t know about Henry, so when he sees Henry and “Emma” together, he’ll go to confront “her” about it, to see if Henry is his kid, considering his age is right.
As Naomi said, no one else apart from Emma knows about Henry’s father, so if Hook is Emma, he’ll have no idea who this guy is, and “Emma’s” reaction to him, with the initial reaction of not recognising him at all, would likely make him suspicious. I guess his initial reaction, if they had a less than friendly separation back in the day, would be to try and convince her that she should give him another chance. But after a little while, he may start to wonder if there’s something sinister going on.
At that stage, if he’s suspecting that Emma may not be Emma, he may try to get Henry away from “her”. That’s gonna mess the kid’s head up. Wonder if he’d tell Henry he’s his father, even if he isn’t 100% sure? Or would he just be some new guy, hanging around, telling Henry not to trust his mother? Either way, it means angst for Henry. Emma told Henry that his father was dead, so it’s not like the kid would believe it if some random suddenly says, ‘I’m your father, and trust me, that person is NOT your mother.” But even if he doesn’t tell Henry, “I’m your father,” he’ll still just be some random guy telling Henry not to trust his mother. He could try speaking to Charming about it, but why would Charming have any reason to believe his story either? Though I guess he could start keeping a closer eye on “Emma”, and maybe he’ll notice that something odd is going on with “Snow” too, and eventually they’ll figure it out.
Then, one day, RealEmma ends up back in town, and finds out that Henry’s father is there, that he’s freaked Henry out, but only done it in an attempt to protect the kid. And he could also have potentially become friends with Emma’s dad. All of that could make for a fabulously awkward situation for Emma to come back to, so I could totally see them going the impostor route.
@AntBee wrote:
hjbau wrote:
Why is Barbara Hershey being on set proof that this isn’t Snow and Emma? Wouldn’t it just be proof that Cora is in the scene? Why would she be on set of Cora was pretending to be Snow?I could see the show ending the winter break with Snow/Emma and Hook/Cora racing each other to get here at the end of episode 9, and then they return with this “reunion” where viewers think that “whew, luckily Emma and Snow made it to Storybrooke before Hook and Cora did,” and then wham, Cora has some kind of villain alone moment where she shapeshifts from Snow to Cora just to shock the audience.
Yes, if “Snow” and Cora are in fact the same person, there’ll need to be a reveal, and that would explain why both actresses would be shooting in Mr Gold’s shop, because of course Cora would want Rumple to know that she’s in town.
Ya know, now I’m kinda hoping that they ARE shape shifting impostors, because that would mean that Cora can shapeshift into people who aren’t dead, because there’s no way they’re gonna kill off Snow or Emma, which in turn means there’s hope for Lancelot. If Snow and Emma are still back in FTL, it means they can find him, and they can go back and get Phillip, and then the whole bunch of them can eventually end up in SB. If Snow and Emma leave FTL without Lancelot, Mulan, Aurora and Phillip, then that’s those characters pretty much done, because they’re not major enough for the writers to spend more time with them in FTL trying to get to SB. They wouldn’t even know where they’re trying to get to. The only way to keep those characters in the storyline, is for them to travel with Snow and Emma. And we didn’t see any of them in that “reunion” scene. At the very least, Charming would have been hugging Lancelot if he was there.
[adrotate group="5"]They had to pick towns that there are multiples of, just to mess with our heads. 😆
The Portland in this ep must be in Oregon though. There’s a shot where you can see that the bug has OR plates, and the red rose, (or should I say Rose Red? 😉 ), on the side of the cop car is an OR thing too.
@@MidgeMarly wrote:
Plus I don’t think they are going to using special effects to blank out Dr Whale’s arm from now on.
I’m guessing his arm is gonna be re-attached somehow. There were pics of him walking through town carrying a cooler, which probably has his arm in it. Perhaps he goes to Rumple for some magical glue to stick it back on.
@TheTrickster wrote:
It is not mentioned, but in “desperate souls”, Henry tells Emma that she shouldn’t make an alliance with him because “he is even worse” than Regina.
So, if Henry knows who Mr. Gold is, Rumplestiltskin must appear in the book…Henry didn’t know who he was though, because in a previous ep, the told Emma he hadn’t figured out who Mr Gold is. So I think that while part of his story is in the book, like the part about how the Charmings had him locked up and how he predicted Emma being the saviour, I don’t think his whole story is in there.
Well thanks for making me thoroughly paranoid, Antbee. Thank you very much. 😛 😆
The absence of Aurora and Mulan could be because Aurora refused to leave FTL without Phillip, and Mulan had to stay with her. I could see Aurora being all, “Hell no, I won’t go!” and running off back to Phillip, and Mulan being frustrated as all hell with her, but she has to run after her, because she knows that Phillip wouldn’t want Aurora running around on her own, completely unprotected.
Emma’s swagger could just be because she’s survived a horrific ordeal in FTL, so she’s feeling kinda badass at the moment.
Thinking more about it, I guess the thing that strikes me the most about this scene is that they seem to be calmly, happily just strolling down the street, but you’d think that Snow and Emma would know that Cora and Hook are potentially hot on their tails, trying to follow them to town. Though I suppose this scene is probably only gonna be a few seconds long, so it’s not like they’ll be hanging out and having a casual street party or anything, so maybe I shouldn’t read too much into that.
@Hannah97 wrote:
It’s a little early to be doing Ariel, don’t you think? There’s been so much hype built up over that character, and I think she deserves to be introduced a little later when there’s not so much going on.
It wasn’t long ago that I think they said they weren’t sure when she’d be introduced yet. But then I got to thinking about how this could be a good fit for her. If Hook’s ship is travelling through the ocean to get to Neverland, the boat may be in bad shape when it gets to the other side, and he may need rescuing, and Ariel meets her prince when she saves him from being drowned when his ship is caught in a storm. They could have an unhappy ending in the middle of their Neverland romance, (the original Little Mermaid story didn’t have their happy ending together), and perhaps Ariel ended up in SB, and they’ll reunite when he gets there too. Perhaps.
Anyway, I’m not necessarily pinning any hopes on that theory, because like I said, they’ve hinted that Ariel isn’t on the cards just yet. But if that’s just a fake out, and they’re actually planning to spring her on us sooner, I could see that as a way they might work her into the story.
@PriceofMagic wrote:
Did Whale perhaps sleep with Kathryn as well as Snow? When Charming said “My wife”, Whale immediately thought he meant Kathryn and not Snow.
Yes! Did Whale just default to thinking of Kathryn and was confused? Or did he actually sleep with her too?
I get why Charming punched him, it wasn’t a full on fight, he just had to let the frustration out so he could get it out of his head and move on. Whale seemed to think it was fair enough, considering he got over it in 2 seconds flat. Guy thing.
I guess if Whale used a heart from Regina’s SB stash, that was bound to go wrong. Even if it was originally the heart of a good person, it’d be all corrupted now, with magic not working the same.
Love the scene with Hook, and how Emma handled him. “Good for you, you bested me. I can count the number of people who’ve done that on one hand.” 😆 He’s SO gonna have the hots for Emma.
@TheTrickster wrote:
Our world and Fairy Tales world coexist from the beginning, even if they are isolated one from the other. But, in our world, there are fairy tales all the History of humankind, so probably there should be a sort of “link”, like a window throught which some people can discern images, tales, or feelings from the other world. Maybe dreams? and thus, we have Grimms, Perraults, Andersens and so on… but as they are only brief visions, they are misunderstood, and that could be the reason for us having such a different versions of the “true” story of FairyLand inhabitants…
Really like this idea about dreams and visions! I’m one of those types who always has to analyse my dreams, and if I can’t remember the details of one, it’ll bug me all day long, (sometimes if I do remember the details of one, that’ll also bug me all day long…had one of those last night actually). So I’d be fascinated if they introduced that concept into the show.
Regarding The Book, the one that Henry has, it is of a different nature, it is what actually happened… in my opinion, it belonged to Snow in FairyTaleLand and came with her after the curse. That explain why she had it first, why it has a sort of “magic” in itself, and why it was given to Henry.
How did it came to her? maybe as a wedding gift: a tale telling all what happened before she and Charming could be together. (An excellent gift, by the way XDD )The thing is though, it had stories right up until the moment when Emma was born and the curse struck, so even if the book existed in some form in FTL before then, it had to have been edited after it came to our world so that that story could have been added in.
I’m sticking with the theory that Blue wrote it after getting to our world. She’s one person who was in a position to know the true details of all the stories, and if, as I suspect, she kept her memories in our world, she then wrote it all down and gave it to Mary Margaret with the intention that it would eventually end up in Henry’s hands, so he could use it as a tool to help Emma break the curse.
