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I agree with what some people said on the podcast last night – I’m a little concerned about too much happening too soon. The show is so great but it seems like so much is happening so fast. I know that they have a grand plan for the whole show – but how do they know how many seasons the show will last??? That’s what seems to happen to some of the really great shows – they start out great but then because they are so good they end up lasting for years and they end up taking bizarre detours and then they go south really fast.
So while there are some things I would LOVE to see happen – I think it might be best to not have those things happen for a few more seasons yet. Like it would be great to have Emma believe in the curse – but . . . what then?? I would like to know who August is but I think that could be a good cliff hanger for the season finale.
[adrotate group="5"]I’m sorry but that little girl is so cute – I would hate for her to end up being a pig!!! That just sounds so wrong!! 🙁
Wolves on the other hand do seem to be a common thread on the show. Besides enjoying a good gourmet mushroom, I know absolutely nothing about the “hunting” habits of mushrooming – but on moral grounds alone I’m gonna have to go with saying that if Grace is one or the other – she is, most hopefully, a wolf.
I had the same thought about Morraine and “The Return.” I wondered if the return referred to the kids who went off to fight in the Ogre War and then came home. I wondered if Rumple inadvertedly set Bae up in the same “coward” situation that he found himself in. If all of Bae's friends return from war but resent him because he didn't go to fight, especially since he was willing to go and fight, that could make Bae very angry with Rumple. And it could make him extremely bitter toward his father's curse which allowed him to kill that guards so he could prevent Bae from being taken to fight. If August really is Bae, that situation could his explain his anger over the dagger and his anger over finding his dad in SB.
I think this is exactly the arguement that this could come down to on the show. Legally to be a parent, you have to do things like provide food, shelter, clothing, and make sure your child gets to school. You are not required to be playful or interact with your child as a friend. Parents who meet the legal criteria for parenting run the gambit when it comes to the KIND of parent they are. This is why I am guessing that Regina would make an arguement for getting a bad rap for being a single working parent. In a two parent home there is normally one parent who plays more of the good cop and one who plays more of the bad cop. In a single family home – the single parent is so busy playing so many roles that they often don’t have any time left to play with their kids after they are done with all the “have to’s” at the end of the day. Emma doesn’t “have to” do anything with Henry. She doesn’t have to make sure he eats nutritious meals, or that he has school uniforms that fit, she doesn’t have to make sure he does his homework, she doesn’t have to take him to the doctor when he is sick or for his annual physical, etc.
In Regina’s case I have heard people use examples of how she was so hard on Henry about leaving his shoes on the stairs when she got home from work and how she came down on him for being at the hospital instead of being at home. As a mom – I have had the shoes on the stairs conversation more times than I care to remember. It’s a safety issue – and regardless of what else happens to be going to or how happy I am to see my son when I get home, if there are shoes on the stairs – mom is NOT going to be happy. I don’t think that makes me an Evil Queen or an unfit parent. Also, if my son was supposed to be at home at I found him hanging out at the hospital – I would LOSE it and he would be grounded for a VERY long time. Again, all part of the parenting job. And when I talked to him about these issues I wouldn’t sound like a friend and I wouldn’t be having a calm rational discussion as if I were speaking with a peer. I can relate to these things. That doesn’t mean that we don’t have times when we have fun together. It also doesn’t mean that there aren’t times when I am being a decent person and my son is being a 10 year old butthead. Kids know exactly what to do to push their parents’ buttons. I think we have seen some of that from Henry on the show. I also think we have seen Regina make some efforts that she isn’t getting credit for.
I have no problem seeing Henry taken away from Regina if she does something to warrant it but so far I haven’t seen her do anything to warrant her losing custody of her son. If going to counseling with her child qualifies her for losing custody then there would be many wonderful parents in this world who are very concerned about their children and take them to counseling to try to figure out how to help them that will also be losing custody. There are parents who pull their hair out trying to figure out what to do about a kid who sneaks out of the house – assuming that they know the kid is sneaking out of the house. This is where I think things get very tricky on this show. If Regina were to do something like hire someone to watch Henry 24 hours a day or put an alarm on the house that would make it impossible for him to leave the house without her permission, then everyone would say that Regina is holding him against his will, when – clearly – the kid has issues with disobeying his mother and sneaking out of the house. I think the fact that Regina is the EQ makes everyone look her not as a parent, but only as something evil which means that by default, she must be an evil parent as well. But, if there was a kid in the normal world who was sneaking out of the house all the time – no one would think twice about those options.
I’m sure some of this comes down to personal experience and age, and whether people are parents themselves, what kind of family life they had as children, etc. I didn’t grow up in an physically demonstrative family, I was an only child and always preferred to play by myself as opposed to having my parents play with me – so I definately didn’t grow up in what most people would consider a warm and fuzzy family. But I still knew my parents loved me and even though they were strict I was very happy. So I guess I just don’t see too much wrong with Regina as a parent, and I also don’t know what we don’t see on TV. When they are alone she could be great with Henry or she could be beating him with a noodle. 😯
charming – do you mean that Emma and Henry act like children together?
I know that my opinion is not a favorite on this topic but that is part of what I struggle with in the whole “Emma will end up getting custody of Henry” scenario. While I do think that is obviously something that will somehow be addressed at some point – I wonder when and how because I do think that Emma and Henry act like kids together. BUT I think that has been done on purpose. I think they have made Regina the parent who adopted Henry as a baby and taken care of him but, as far as we have seen anyway, isn’t warm and fuzzy with him. Then we have Emma at the opposite extreme who is lots of fun to hang out with – the kind of person who would let you eat chocolate cake every morning for breakfast. She would love you like crazy and give you lots of hugs, but you might also be late for school every day and never have to wear a coat when it’s cold outside (although she would probably buy Henry a really cool leather coat).
I don’t see Emma being ready to be a parent yet – I believe she even said that in the pilot. Being concerned about Henry’s well-being, and being concerned that Regina isn’t the best parent doesn’t necessarily make her qualified to be a parent herself. At this point I think it would end up as some very bizarre situation where a woman who is raising her child is living with her mother – and her mother is the one who is really raising her son because she is the better parent. Only in our case the woman wouldn’t know she is living with her mother and the grandmother wouldn’t know she is really parenting her own grandson.
But I think that at some point Rumple and Regina had at least a tolerable relationship. They aren’t like Harry Potter and Voldermort where anytime they are around each other you never know which one will come out alive. There is always some kind of odd bantering going on between the two of them and at some point Regina made a comment about how they used to know each other so well. Also, Rumple doesn’t seem the least bit annoyed when Regina just waltzes right into his castle and serves herself tea in Skin Deep.
I still think that in all of this Rumple plans to redeem Regina as well. I think he wants to get her back to how she used to be before her mother screwed her up by killing Daniel
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And really when it comes down to it because of things like the hat they may not have to choose. They may be able to go back and forth between the worlds.
That would be an interesting twist. They could vacation in FTL.
I agree. I think that Sidney’s days are numbers. I don’t see that his character adds anything to the show now that Emma knows that he is working for Regina. Regina won’t have any use for him anymore now that she can’t use him against Emma – he doesn’t serve any other real purpose in SB. In less, of course, they start to have the characters pick sides and once he discovers that Emma realizes what he has been up to and that she is gaining more power he decides to switch teams.
But I also have to say that after seeing the promo picture of the broken mirror, I wondered if that was symbolic of Regina killing Sidney. Kind of like how when she squeezed Graham's heart, he died. Maybe if she breaks one of her mirrors, Sidney will die.
Technically Rumple is human now – since he is in his Gold form. However, if the curse is broken and it destroys his Dark One curse so that if he were to return to his FTL form and were to be a human again – I don’t see him wanting everyone to turn on one another in order to come out as top dog. When he was human prior to becoming cursed he appeared to have compassion. He appeared to be truely concerned about the little girl that was being taken to the Orge Wars and what the Dark One did to her parents. He appeared to be poor but he gave money to the Dark One (not knowing that he was the Dark One yet) simply because he was in need. In my mind, redeeming himself would mean that he is going to right the wrongs he has done while he was under his curse and under the dark curse which would mean that he would do would everything he can to try help restore everyone else’s happy endings. I don’t think having everyone turn againt each other really furthers that cause.
I don’t see too many happy endings going on at all in FTL. I would lean toward guessing that all of the characters would want to stay in SB. In FTL the characters really didn’t seem to get to think for themselves – everything was dictated by royalty and tradition, so the commonors were subject to having their children stolen and forced to fight in Ogre wars while the Royal lineage was forced into arranged marriages or threatened with death. That seems to be the reason that all the mess with the magic and deal-making happened in the first place – everyone was trying to find ways around the Royal traditions and dictates, or were trying to find ways to climb the social ladder and become a Royal (or get their children to become a Royal).
At least in SB (at least one would assume once the curse is broken) in the real world, people are free to decide for themselves what they want to do with their life. If Astrid doesn’t want to be a nun she and Leroy can be together – there aren’t necessarily any more silly rules about Fairies and Dwarves don’t have any Diamond Mines. Even though MM is a Princess (or a Queen I guess??) she can still be a teacher if she likes it.
That’s one reason I have always thought that Regina has felt that Belle would be a threat. Even in FTL, Belle was a princess who had no problem sacrificing her station in life as a princess to become a maid. She said that “no one decides my fate but me.” She didn’t care that Rumple was a green scaley guy with a bad reputation – she chose to form her own opinion based on what she herself observed and didn’t care what anyone else thought. She is a girl who I think would have no problem at all adjusting to life in SB and would be the first person pointing out to everyone that life is what you make of it. Based upon things that Regina said in FTL, her entire life post killing the King was based upon trying to retain as much power as possible – it was all about having everyone bow down to her. That doesn’t work out so well if everyone chooses to stay in SB, because even the Mayor doesn’t hold “power” in the way that the Royals did in FTL. And without the curse, Regina as Mayor, holds very little power at all.
