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The entire premise of the finale confused me and seemed to contradict the author’s powers previously established in 4b. How is it that Isaac had the power to write things that had “real” and lasting effects in fictional London, the EF and ALWM (e.g. rendering Cruella incapable of killing Henry), and yet the story which he wrote was a “fake” AU
This becomes even more confusing when we remember that Fictional! 1920s! London is a land of story and not “real” in the sense that time moves and things change. But still the Author was able to make permanent changes.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"1) I don’t understand why the AU ”never happened” just because it was not in the book. The characters collectively remembered what happened, so therefore it all did happen but just wasn’t recorded…surely???
I honestly don’t have an answer for this one and it’s been bothering me as well. And it was recorded in Isaac’s book; and even when Regina threw it into the fire in part one, nothing changed. It’s not like destroying the book ended the AU, unless that was because in our world there still would have been published copies of “Heroes and Villains.” (maybe?)
Which brings up another question: what about the people in our world who’s memories they likewise altered with Isaac’s rewrite. You have fans, the publishing company, reviewers, ect. It’s the equivalent of Daniel, Matt and I running this joint but waking up one morning with only memories of ONCE Podcast Forums …but the forums themselves not existing or being real. It doesn’t jive.
2) Why didn’t Belle and Rumple’s kiss not send everyone back to the original reality? Why did it have to be only Regina’s and Robin’s that could do that?
I’m assuming that is because the AU was Rumple’s happy ending so he couldn’t have it all undone with a kiss from Belle, something that would have been happening frequently in the AU. Rumple and Isaac wrote it so that Regina and Robin never met and thus the AU could play out. What Rumple and Isaac didn’t count on was Henry.
(ps; what was Rumple’s plan for Henry???? Last season he wanted to take Henry with him and Belle when Ingrid was about to cast her curse but this season he’s content to let Henry remain alone in SB?)
3) Why did it have to be a (white?) savior’s blood that Henry needed in the AU to fix everything?
Again, no idea outside of “magic” for the sake of emotional feelings. Emma broke the first curse; they wanted Regina to break this one to parallel 122. I also disagree with the idea that Isaac should have been able to fundamentally alter Emma’s make up. He left her memories in tact but managed to rob her of her Saviorhood…that doesn’t make much sense.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"At the end the Apprentice was with Regina and Emma laying in the street. Where did he come from?
…was he? I thought it was just Regina, Robin, Snowing, and Hook
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Will TLK work on Emma though? They’ve kind of played fast and loose with that. It started to work in 1×12, but ever since Belle and Rumple were reunited in 1×22 their kisses have not broken the curse. I suppose one could argue Rumple hasn’t fully loved her since then, but still, having Henry or Hook kiss Emma to break the Dark One Curse is way too easy.
Perhaps but A and E like their parallels. Given that 511 is (I believe) the 100th episode, A and E would see it as being a rich way to bring their story to a circular close (in a way; obviously we’d have another half season at least of OUAT). Emma saved Henry with a TLK in 122, someone saves Emma with a TLK in 511, thus closing the arc of Dark! Swan.
In fact, I believe they’ll even have the similar dialogue. There’s a reason why they didn’t have Hook say ILY back to Emma in 422 and it’s because they want the impact for 511. So, basically Emma will probably be super duper dark, Hook decides he doesn’t care, if she’s going to destroy the world or whatever he’ll die alongside her (cause Jane Espenson is still on the writing staff and “yellow crayon”–if you don’t get the reference, then my heart is broken and you need to spend the summer with BtVS), goes up and says “ILY Emma” (just like Emma in 122 says “I love you Henry” for the first time) kisses her, rainbows, curse broken. Circular storytelling.
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"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love""He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Thank you! In the Excalibur episode, I remember Snow’s version was fake, but did a real version exist?
It exists because everyone knows what Excalbur is and Rumple does say something like “it’s in Camelot.” We just haven’t seen the real version yet
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love""He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
