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I think he has wider reasons for hollowing out her heart. I’ll just cite that synergy between Emma and Regina as evidence.
I agree with much of what has been said but I’m convinced that he wanted Regina cursed for more than just petty revenge or to just be a way station for Henry until Emma came to town. The question that I leads me to where I am is why specifically was it Regina that Rumple needed to cast his curse and considering the Mills women were not monsters until their encounters with Rumple I have to assume that Regina’s destiny is far more important that Rumple is letting on why else would he be so cryptic about why he had Regina’s teardrops for example? In the end Regina and Emma’s connection is one that I think Rumple has tried to forestall and by keeping Regina and Robin apart by cursing her heart he precludes the possibility of the happy endings coming back (that is so long as Emma remains skeptical and refuses to take further leaps of faith)
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From my point of view Rumple wouldn’t saddle Regina with that curse unless he wanted her dead or dark. Rumple is not the sort of man who would punish Regina just for spite there has to be an ulterior motive for that particular consequence of the curse. I just can’t shake the sense that Regina’s part to play is more significant than everyone with the likely exception of Rumple knows.
Custodian of Graham's darts, Rumple's spindle and Robin's quiver
That second sneak is making a theory I’ve had look more and more plausible. When Rumple learned Robin’s name from the Sheriff I think he knew him to be Regina’s soul mate and that he must do everything in his power to keep them apart. Belle may have prevented Rumple from killing him but Rumple in turn decided he needed to ensure that the two of them stayed apart. So as a test run he tried out his hole-in-heart curse on Snow knowing that David would be there for her. Realizing that Rob is absent form Regina’s life Rumple could saddle her with a hole in her heart (that she can’t fill) and knowing Henry would only ease the pain he’d ensure that Emma would come to town and everyone would string her up from her tree after the curse broke. Since that didn’t happen Rumple has since tried to nudge others in the direction of killing Regina or has done his darndest to make sure her heart stays dark. I think Rumple fears Regina’s true self and knows that if Emma and Henry awaken it and she is united with Rob then Rumple’s whole ball game goes up in smoke. Deep down Regina knows that what she really needs, that is “love” is something that Rumple cannot give her since she said so much in “Welcome to Storybrooke” after which the camera shot focused on the unicorn mobile. The rest of my theory which I’ll omit for now hangs on what happens with the Fairy Godmother’s wand which I’m positive is the same one Rob pilfered and Regina witnessed Rumple use down in the mines. I’ll just say this the only way I see that wand getting into the Fairy Godmother’s hands after Rob steals it from Rumple is it being returned to her by oh I don’t know her godson. As always nous verrons que nous verrons.
Custodian of Graham's darts, Rumple's spindle and Robin's quiver
I doubt that, with all the talk about how they are a family and that they don’t leave family behind. I would think after Regina’s part in Op. Save Henry that the desire would be for the family to be whole and united. If Regina was to separate herself from them the only reasons I can think of are to spare Henry something horrible or to seek out Rob (which I doubt is going to happen since it seems she considers him lost and that hole in her heart has got to be a factor even if her heart begins to come back to life as it were.)
On a side note what I’m hoping is we’ll discover that Rob was Snow’s teacher in the ways of the thief and that with a bit of cajoling from the Charming clan Rob will fight w/ them to rescue Regina from the darkness so that their love can conquer all. It’s just the incurable romantic in me.
Custodian of Graham's darts, Rumple's spindle and Robin's quiver
I might be going out on a limb here but I would surmise the following:
A) After Rumple’s confrontation with his father that sets in motion a series of events that triggers a facet of the curse.
B) Lana tweeted a while back that Regina’s heart will brighten again, it’s possible that Emma, Henry and the rest of the gang have Regina’s true self in sight but since Regina is linked to the darkness it won’t relinquish her w/o a fight and in order to spare Henry whatever, evil that curse may cause her to do she exiles herself to the forest prompting a rescue mission that involves a detour to NYC for some reason. And when the heroes arrive in the Forest the curse makes them look as they did before.
C) Emma and Henry get stranded in Storybrooke with the challenge of reuniting everyone maybe while facing down remnants of that network Pan had created (Greg, Tamara, John & Michael may not be the only ones)
Custodian of Graham's darts, Rumple's spindle and Robin's quiver
We definitely need to re-cap what we know or rather don’t know about this new curse and what this whole business is with Regina apparently saying goodbye. Cause I’m getting the notion that the Dark Curse has layers to it. My thought is Emma broke layer one in the Season 1 finale. Layer two emerged when magic came to town and laid down the border that stuck the characters in their cursed selves if they crossed. This apparent new curse could be layer 3. With the characters seen in the photos the only plausible arguments I can make are:
1) That particular group finds itself back in the Forest.
2) That they haven’t really left Storybrooke.
3) That it’s some kind of elaborate dream sequence. (but the presence of Belle, Neal, Aurora and Philip makes me think otherwise)
Custodian of Graham's darts, Rumple's spindle and Robin's quiver
All 3 of those eps have significant Cora appearances. Curious.
Cora does have this doll to her side when she appears before Rumple when she asks for a truce in 2×12 “In the Name of the Brother.” I’m leaning in the direction of it having some significance for Cora and Regina.
Custodian of Graham's darts, Rumple's spindle and Robin's quiver
Dont know if this counts as a symbol, but when Neal was in Golds shop, I forget the episode but I THINK it was the one where Emma did the protection spell, anyway. If you look behind him,there was doll that looks EXACTLY like Glinda the Good Witch of the south behind his shoulder. Foreshadowing? I think so v.v
I’ve noticed this doll as well (not so sure it’s a Glinda reference) it appeared in Gold’s shop for the balance of Season 2. Unfortunately I don’t have a close-up image that would give me a clue if it were an analog to one of the characters. I’ve got a theory forming but I still need a couple more clues before I’ll speculate.
The first instance it appears is in 2×02 “We Are Both” when Regina went hunting for her mother’s spell book. In that episode the doll is sitting on the counter next to Regina. The next most prominent appearance is behind Rumple as he puts the wand away in 2×09 “Queen of Hearts” and says he’ll be sure not to bet against Emma in the future. The third most prominent appearance is in 2×16 “The Miller’s Daughter” Regina, Cora and Neal are all seen in close proximity to the doll as it sits on a stand upon the counter.
Custodian of Graham's darts, Rumple's spindle and Robin's quiver
I’m leaning in the direction of Robin being Wart but that’s just me.
Observation #3
In 2×20 “The Evil Queen” when Regina in disguise comes across the peasants abusing an effigy of her. In the background is a tapestry, with a castle and overhead an angel and a dragon in apparent combat. In the lower right hand corner of the tapestry there appears a small ship and a family of trumpeter swans. (Perhaps a symbol of good and evil at war within Regina?)
Custodian of Graham's darts, Rumple's spindle and Robin's quiver
