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People had mentioned how Hook had done a little pull back when reached for his wrist & that Emma had pulled his arm toward her in response- guess they were right 😉
The way I look at it, if Hook was meant to be a long term villain when introduced, then why bother compare and contrast him with Emma’s past relationship with Neal two episodes later?
Agreed- CS was intended to happen from the get go IMO.
ok – I had been thinking along these lines too, but then realized it might be hard to swing that… how did Neal survive for however long without a heart… didnt the heart need to be destroyed? Was Rumple keeping him alive against the payment for bringing the DO back and also from the heart sacrifice?
I think in the hospital Killian said more to the effect that if Neal/Bae did have a hand in bringing his father back that Killian suspected he would have had to use some dark magic. I think it was more speculation and deductive reasoning than first hand knowledge imo.
Agreed & That is my impression as well.
My question is – how did she know to watch Hook.  Was she spying on all of them while they were in SB and then the EF and then SB and then NL?  How does the WW know that Hook is important enough to spy on?  and to try and deploy counter measures against him??????
I guess she heard the same ‘rumors’ that Hook had gone hero & helped save Henry with Snowing while in NL & was fighting against Pan with them etc.
Oh! Cant believe I didnt click earlier! Didnt Emma & Walsh date for 8 or 9mths? As in right about the time Hook got his ship back?! SO why did WW feel the urge to send Walsh to our world to keep an eye on Emma pretty much as soon as Killy got his ship back… I think maybe someone knew what other ‘someones’ where up to 😉
Haha- just found this little gem on youtube LOL- it’s good for a giggle (fan reactions to the 1st CS kiss) 😉
ellemo78 the quote tab isnt functioning properly forum wide, but will hopefully be fixed by tomorrow 🙂
RG said sometimes it will work if you change to “Text” mode to quote 🙂
I’ve just been using the blockquote (quotation marks) while quoting atm 😉
huh- the quote button really isnt working is it!
This time around I think they just figured out the only way to get back to Emma was to curse everyone again by sending them back to SB just like before but missing only their memories of the past year – that isn’t the Dark Curse.  In that case I don’t see why you would need an actual human heart to cast the curse but if you had to sacrifice the THING you loved most Hook would be perfect because of the Jolly Roger.  Maybe it’s just some kind of major sacrifice that is required.
I understand what you are saying (&I personally like the idea), but that just brings us back to the point of Rumple would have simply cast ‘this’ curse if it was that simple- as he himself would remember & be able to leave town, without having to rely on Regina (whom lets face it, wasnt exactly reliable- Rumple had to keep prompting her every step of the way to get her to cast it & then to get her to ‘not’ destroy his plans once Emma showed, if he didnt have to take that risk, I seriously dont think he would have- it’s not like him to add an unstable variable to his supposedly well laid plans just for a giggle 😉 ). I remember Rumple having some dialog (I think last season) to the effect of ‘the curse was the only way he had left to come to ‘our’ world/LWM & he couldnt cast it himself, as the ‘thing’ he loved most was already here(Baelfire)’ & thats why he had to get Regina to cast it- the price of casting a ‘transportation’ curse to a ‘land without magic’ was too high.
At this point I think the memories & who comes along is entirely up to the caster (based on the rules/ in show dialog we already have. Ie Regina choosing who comes & doesnt, the fact Rumple was able to remember everything once he heard Emma’s name, the fact Regina was surprised at how meek Snow was, but not surprised she didnt seem to know her), Time being at a stand still & the town hidden.
I agree that curse 2.0 isnt exactly the same as curse 1.0, but I think that has more to do with the fact that the things required to make the curse impossible for Regina to resist casting it in the 1st place, have been excluded- so no one lives miserable lives/they remember who they are (since that isnt required as incentive for Regina), time doesnt stand still (again for Regina’s benefit in seeking her revenge) etc. but they still dont remember what happened for the yr they were in EF, so logically the ‘missing time’ element has to be up to the castor & why would Snowing cast a curse & choose to not remember the missing yr?- seems a very convoluted way to get back to SB with someone whom wants to do something nasty to your unborn child in tow IMO :/
Ugh, I wish we had more info, then wouldnt be all speculation on whats happened *sigh* Should only be 1 more day & we’ll have some sneak peek/s to gather info from (I hope!) 😉 But either way we are pretty much certain that Killy plays a pivotal part in getting to our land again (Yes it is simple speculation on our/CS’ers part, but I doubt we’ll wrong or far off the mark here this time), it’s just the finer details of this area which are a hard to work out (the how, since we all know the why & when) :/
