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Yeah going with Regina ‘OMG I gotta get her outta here’ nightmare there lol. Cant believe it’s still a wk & 1/2 before the next ep – It seems like forever already 🙁

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Or it could be the pages August added to the book (unlikely but a possibility all the same lol)
More likely its Regina’s worst nightmare since Gold all but out right told her Emma is Snow’s missing daughter lol ;p Wish I could flippn well watch the promo it wont load- its not on youtube yet & stupid Nz has useless data plans so we’re back on dial up for a few days GRRRRRRRRRRR!!!

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It could just be after what happened in stableboy- she now trusts August or that he’s convinced her of a way to ‘find’ her parents & she has in fact shown him her file/folder hoping he really can help her track them down (little does she know lol) 😉

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EP have said in interviews August is Not Future Henry nor the writer of the book

So we can cross both those options off of our lists.
He talks about Lemurs being in Napel- when there are in fact none. (the fact he describes their eye shine, size & that they are animals leaves no interpretation other than lying for me).

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TBH I dont think Snow even knows Regina’s love was murdered (she out right said the wanted poster PC held up of her & included “murder” as a charge was all ‘lies’). So other than giving away her secret, I highly doubt Snow even knows why EQ hates her some darn much (in stable boy ep Regina tells young Snow, Daniel ran away cause he wasnt in love with her- so unless Regina tells an older SW she actually got him killed, then Snow has no idea at all that he’s dead)- at least thats what all 5 of us got when we re-watched the all the eps over the Easter holidays lol

Regina was told repeatedly there was no turning back once she went down this path- she’d be empty & have an unfillable hole inside of her – however we know True love can cure/conquer everything & that Rumps has said Love; sooooo there is that way available.
Personally I think Regina is trying to be happy -She’s taken Snow’s love away from her, so why shouldnt she- however she forgot the one small detail- she wouldnt ever be able to ‘feel’ again & So she’s trying to have what she always wanted (love) but it keeps backfiring on her as she enacted the curse out of spite & revenge. That has nothing to do with Snow & is all down to & on her.

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Yay! I dont normally buy sound tracks, but Im so buying this one- I drive along & all of a sudden realize that Im humming the theme song for OUaT lol. I love the music/scores they’ve come up with, cant wait!

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Hmm he could indeed be Ursula’s minion, however there was never any sidekick/s (for lack of a better term lol ) in the old fairy tail- however that hasnt stopped the writers from changing it up on us before now lol.
In fact I was really surprised, as in the Original (HCA) The Little Mermaid becomes (an angle?) kind of wind being, otherwise she would have become sea foam when her prince did not in fact marry her & so she doesnt get her prince, but an immortal soul (after 3 yrs of gliding about) instead, which was from deciding not to kill her prince- it sure isnt Disney o.O lol
I was like wow, harsh kids tale lol – Kill your prince or lose your immortal soul- nice lol 😉

Another thought I had was the commentator at the beginning of every ep, says “Story Book” characters have been cursed – rather than fairy tale characters – maybe he’s Nemo or Ahab, its a stretch but I cant think of any other ‘large’ fish or Whales popping up in any other fairy tales other than pino (a large fish or whale is in both Disney & the Brothers Grimm tales, so its more likely for what we’ve seen of the writing so far that this will be part of who Dr Whale is, maybe he’s the generalized ‘EQ’s’ sidekick & so encompasses many of them, as opposed to just a single one). He seems to do Regina’s bidding anyway despite being a Dr & at least believing he’s taken the Hippocratic oath.

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@Phee wrote:

It’d be a terribly boring world if everyone saw everything in exactly the same way.

Lol, to a point I agree- there’d a lot less fighting & war if we all did agree a little more tho 😉
We had a psychology exercise a few yrs ago now, but the results stuck with me- out of 25 people there was 7 distinctly different interpretations of the exact same photo lol. It was interesting to understand the way the mind works in coming to the conclusions it makes- Me I have a highly logical & analytical brain, so any discrepancies tend to fly out & bug me if no logical explanation is forth coming lol 😉

I think she’s been shown to be a character who will do what needs to be done, even if it won’t win her friends. She had no qualms about stomping on Nova and Dreamy’s love with all the talk about how it simply COULD NOT happen, there’s just no way because it’s not the way the world works and she wasn’t ever gonna budge on that opinion, no matter how heartbroken they’d be, they just had to suck it up and get over it.

Much like she told Snow and Charming they’d have to suck it up and get over it that they’d be separated for 28 years. In the end, it’d all work out, and they’d be together again, and their separation was ultimately a temporary sacrifice for the good of ALL. If Blue Fairy did something to send Pinicchio with Emma, I believe that would have been her same line of thinking. She had to pull the wool over everyone’s eyes right now, so that the plan would work out in the long term. If she didn’t pull the wool over their eyes, the plan may fail and they’d all be doomed in the long run.

Well Ill be watching them all over again today & tomorrow, so maybe we’ll see what you’ve seen- but I really dont recall her “suck it up” attitude towards SW & PC in particular.
As far as Dreamy & Nova go – Nova’s deepest wish was to be a fairy god mother, so BF would be obligated to keep that wish for her- she didnt (from memory here- so I could be wrong & Ill edit after watching that ep later today if it is) actually say you CANNOT go with Nova period, she said IF you do, Nova will not have her dearest wish of becoming a Fairy god mother (or something along those lines). I just figured because Nova had created Dreamy by dropping fairy dust on him, Dreamy had to find his inner dwarf self & place rather than just ‘follow’ others around, he didnt say Nova- you know you will have to give up being a fairy god mother to do this, is it what you want? Because he was just following what he’d been told again, but then thats just my opinion lol

Would you accept the superficial reasoning that they had to be close in age so that they could cast a hottie for Emma to potentially hook up with when they were adults and they could become the next gen supercouple of the show? LOL

LOL!!! Well when you say it like that 😉

I don’t think Pinocchio being sent as a protector, who has grown into August who is the motivator, takes anything away from Emma being the saviour.

My point was that if more than person could travel through that wardrobe, the whole savior going through isnt a big deal anymore- esp if theres gonna be a bunch of FT land folk calling reality home with all their memories intact cause they went through a wardrobe that we clearly & repeatedly got told could take only one.
Personally I want to see August being special in someway I think, I think his name is a big clue & as we have his middle name I think that is a clue in its self as to who he really is 🙂

For all we know, Rumple was still imprisoned when the dark curse was unleashed.

Lol that was my point 😉

I better go have a shower before our OUaT marathon guests turn up 🙂

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@slurpeez108 wrote:

Has anyone else considered that Rumple could have transformed Pinocchio back into a puppet after he’d been turned into a real boy by the Blue Fairy? We’ve already seen how Rumple gave the potion to Jimminy in order to change his parents into puppets. However, Geppetto’s parents we turned by mistake. If puppet Pinocchio were made of enchanted wood, that could explain how Pinocchio could have been transported to the real world without having to go through the wardrobe. Also, regarding the hair color discontinuity, it’d be simple enough for August to color his hair brown to conceal his identity (after all, red hair is a dead give-away).

Rumple was locked up in the dwarf prison/cage & Pinocchino was with Geppetto both in the room when the Blue Fairy arrived with the enchanted tree & was with Geppetto while making the wardrobe. So I gonna go with unlikely on that one 😉

I used to think August = Peter Pan, but it seems they indeed havent got the rights to use it, so now I dont know – none of the other options make logical sense as yet (at least if he had been PP, they could have said- well he was in our world already when the curse hit & couldnt go back so grew up here instead, being PP he kept looking for adventure & eventually found SB. He knew all the people from FTL but they didnt know him or FTL & he couldnt break the curse so didnt hang around, until Emma shows up & he feels a pull- that makes perfect sense to me without breaking their already established (& Rammed down our throats) rules lol.

It would be nice if one of the other options was as cut n dried rule wise – although I suppose if he was indeed the author as some say then he wouldnt need protecting from the curse. Some one posted a link (not sure where now) about a kid that found a magic booth which let him travel from reality to a bunch of FT worlds, where he did lots of stuff including save a princess, which I thought was interesting as well, but doubt its correct in August’s case as the EP have already said at paleyfest that one of the theories going around back then was correct- I think they where PP, Pinocchino, Bae or the author of the book from memory. Its entirely doubtful its PP, to many problems to be pino without screwing over the shows frame work, Bae is a possibility if they get REAL creative – Ive seen some pretty decent theories pop up over the last wk tho lol & the author, well I cant really think how he would know about FTL or have skipped the curse if from FTL but again its entirely possible if they get creative lol 😉

The dagger thing has me in 2 minds – yep it could give credence to him being Bae or rule it by if he was Bae he's already seen the dagger & since it would be uber important to him, its unlikely he'd need a pic to help search/ find it again.
I totally agree with you on the writers doing an AWESOME job with this- no one has yet come up with a totally sound, fool proof who & how (that Ive seen anyways lol).

I think I’ll probably wait for the next ep & enjoy the revelation (if it comes 😉 ) & until then enjoy reading/hearing everyone’s ideas & theories on who he is & why, someone may come up with a bang on version of why & how he is pino, bae or the author yet- will certainly help fill in the next 2 & 1/2wks for sure 🙂
A bunch of my mates & I are having a OUaT marathon tomorrow & Sun since we have Easter holidays & are not competing this yr, so maybe we’ll get lucky & figure something out now we have hindsight lol 😀

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I didnt know where else to post this, so figure Emma’s forum is the best place lol.

Isnt Emma a bail bond person, not a bounty hunter? It turns out they are 2 very different jobs although they can be merged together at certain times, under certain circumstances.
Im from New Zealand, so had no clue what a bail bond person was & had to google it lol & this what I found on bail bond persons :

A bail bondsman’s responsibilities include answering phones and answering questions from family members and friends of the defendant. On most occasions, bail agents will meet with the families involved, or friends, and complete the bail bond process so that bail can be posted immediately. When bail bondsmen aren’t answering telephones, their keeping up with clients appearances in court as well as the progress of their cases. Often, a bondsman will deal with attorneys and the court system regarding these issues and a lot of the time, they are able to stop problems or errors before they occur, usually due to a lack of communication.

People, who have experience with a bondsman, probably see a much different view than the rest. Bondsmen are trusted advisers in a sense that can help people who are in trouble and provide them with a legitimate and financially feasible way of getting out of jail. Basically, a bail agent runs a sales environment and needs to uphold service to their customers in order to properly run a good business. They for a nonrefundable fee of 10 to 20 percent of the amount of the bail, post bail. A bail agent becomes liable to the court for the full amount of bail if the defendant fails to appear for the court date. Before agreeing to assume the risk of posting bail, the bail agent requires collateral from the defendant, such as jewelry, Securities, or written guaranties by creditworthy friends or relatives of the defendant. This collateral acts as security to ensure repayment for any losses the bail agent might incur.

Over time and with perpetual media, people have gotten the wrong idea about a bail agent’s persona. Sometimes people confuse the role of a bail agent verses the role of a fugitive recovering agent (aka “bounty hunter”). People see these roles as the same and don’t differentiate their real purpose. This is due mostly, to the fact that a lot of people have never been in a situation where they have had to use a bail bondsman.

The term “bail agent” means, “any person who can furnish bail for compensation in a court of the state, and one who is appointed by an insurer by ‘power of attorney’ to execute or countersign a bail bond.” Sometimes bondsmen are thought of as “Insurance Producers” because of their ability to bind policies of insurance for risk. So, if you were to assume that a bail bondsman was an insurance salesman, you would be on the right track.

The term “bounty hunter,” on the other hand, refers to a person who is employed by a bail company to find and hold a defendant in custody because they have failed to appear at their scheduled court date or has failed to carry out other responsibilities outlined in the bond contract.

Bail agents have the right to find their clients who have failed to hold up their part of the deal, so that they can get them to court. However, many bondsmen prefer to stick to what they know best and only conduct bail bond business and hire others to do the defendant recovery work (we know this isnt the case with Emma tho). Hired recovery agents must meet specific standards and should provide a sense of professionalism. They must also perform their tasks in an efficient manner so that the person is returned to jail promptly in a business-like and legal manner.

In simple terms, bail agents are used to help get people out of jail and follow them to make sure they get to court as scheduled. Bounty hunters provide a way to get defendants back to court when they don’t show up, in which case, they will be placed back in jail.

I think it interesting how her job description is to ‘protect’ & help people, despite how she feels & whats happened to her.
Also Emma being a bail bonds person is likely partly due to her upbringing- she either had someone do this for her, or wished she did have someone do this for her.
I also think it has to do with Henry’s father, was he maybe in a position of power over her somehow & was part of the reason she went to jail – something big must have gone down if she didnt want him even knowing Henry was alive (which leads me to believe she feels he’d hurt, use or harm Henry/her in some way if he did know).
We know she also became a bail bonds person, as she’s been searching for her mother & father since she was a kid, so that fits as well.

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