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October 12, 2013 at 11:50 am in reply to: Examiner: Colin O'Donoghue previews Hook's Neverland struggles #215345sweetgrassParticipant
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The story of Peter Pan and Captain Hook on which we all grew up had the latter as the clear-cut bad guy who went around tormenting young children. But ABC’s Once Upon A Time has introduced a very different take– one that not only introduced Hook (Colin O’Donoghue) as an almost impossibly charming (no pun intended) and more sensitive than we might imagined man but also as a man that though out for revenge was so for love and a sense of family that many might not have thought possible for such a traditionally mustache-twirly character. Hook even managed to set aside some of his personal quest to help Emma (Jennifer Morrison) attempt to rescue her son from Neverland– a place that Hook knows better than almost anyone and therefore knows to fear. How will Hook continue to grow and evolve based on his decision to put aside his own mission and help someone else, let alone to confront some demons in Neverland? LA TV Insider Examiner sat down with O’Donoghue on set to find out! “You saw towards the end of last season…he sort of said ‘If I do get my revenge, what have I got to live for? What are we doing?’ And I think he is beginning to realize that there’s more to life than just trying to get revenge, you know, and I think there are certain elements that are helping him realize that and giving him something to sort of live for, I guess,” O’Donoghue said. “He’s quite different; he’s struggling with whether or not he should try to become this new person or not and that’s difficult for him because I think there’s a part of him that wants to try to do the right thing, but he’s been living with this hatred and revenge for hundreds of years, so it’s tough to let go of. That’s a real struggle for him.” The simple fact that O’Donoghue believes Hook is struggling with right and wrong proves that he’s a much more complicated man, and seeing Peter Pan (Robbie Kay) as an absolutely tortured and warped because of it soul interestingly offers an insight and dichotomy into Hook, too, that continues to expand the audience’s perception of him. While O’Donoghue shared that he has never approached playing Hook as an “out and out villain,” it has been his selfishness that defined him when we first met him, and now that is shifting. “Selfishness made him do villainous things at times. And a lot of it could be hearsay– a lot of the stories about Hook that people sort of– I don’t know yet, but the way I saw it was that, similar to The Princess Bride…there’s this sort of myth behind him but nobody ever saw it happen,” O’Donoghue said. “I do think he’d happily kill you if he had to, but he might have a little bit of a cry about it after.”
I’ve always felt Hook was more bluster than killer. He seems to rely on intimidation first
To me, he doesn’t seem to enjoy killing. When he and Regina were in the mines and discussing revenge, Hook seemed to be trying to reach her. It was when she said she was going to kill everyone that he showed her the cuff. Again, Hook turned on Greg and Tamara when they were going to kill everyone. I don’t believe him when he says it is only for himself that he turned on them. Hook seems to try to hide his soft side and I think in episode 5 we learn why. More importantly through out season 2, Hook seemed to always have a bit of a death wish and was ok with dying if the Croc died with him.
Even with Cora, I think Hook was not happy about all the villagers being killed. I don’t think Hook helped Cora kill the villagers. If I recall correctly, he was busy getting his ship ready when Cora called him for her plan. She wanted show him some thing special, which I think was more than the sparkly dirt (but was the village as well). My sense was that she already killed everyone and Hook didn’t have a choice but to go along with Cora. She already gave him a choice in Wonderland to work with her or die. I think he wanted to get away from her and in part that’s why he wanted to help team princess. I don’t blame Belle for everything Rumple did while she is/was with him, evthough ugh she has weigh more influence on Rumple than Hook on Cora.The thing with Hook, he doesn’t have any one or really anything in his corner that will protect him, so he can’t straight out tell Cora, Regina, Greg and Tamara that they are wrong and evil. He has to rely on his ability to deceive/double cross to try to stop them.
When Cora turned that guy into a fish, Hook “gently kicked” the fish into the water. I say gently because he didn’t boot the guy to hurt him.
Even with Belle, he could have shot to kill but he didn’t, In the library, I think he was acting as a distraction to give Smee the ability to steal Bae’s wrap/shawl and not intending to hurt Belle.
The only time Hook seemed ok about killing an innocent was Belle in the tower the first time they met. I assume he was going to kill her. that seemed out of character, but he felt it was necessary because he couldn’t have Regina know he was there. I don’t count killing Regina’s guards as killing an innocent because they are bad guys.
I very curious as to how Bae and Hook interact and finding out their back story. It seems to me. They spent significant time together, not just a week.
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October 12, 2013 at 11:35 am in reply to: Examiner: Colin O'Donoghue previews Hook's Neverland struggles #215340sweetgrassParticipantThe story of Peter Pan and Captain Hook on which we all grew up had the latter as the clear-cut bad guy who went around tormenting young children. But ABC’s Once Upon A Time has introduced a very different take– one that not only introduced Hook (Colin O’Donoghue) as an almost impossibly charming (no pun intended) and more sensitive than we might imagined man but also as a man that though out for revenge was so for love and a sense of family that many might not have thought possible for such a traditionally mustache-twirly character. Hook even managed to set aside some of his personal quest to help Emma (Jennifer Morrison) attempt to rescue her son from Neverland– a place that Hook knows better than almost anyone and therefore knows to fear. How will Hook continue to grow and evolve based on his decision to put aside his own mission and help someone else, let alone to confront some demons in Neverland? LA TV Insider Examiner sat down with O’Donoghue on set to find out! “You saw towards the end of last season…he sort of said ‘If I do get my revenge, what have I got to live for? What are we doing?’ And I think he is beginning to realize that there’s more to life than just trying to get revenge, you know, and I think there are certain elements that are helping him realize that and giving him something to sort of live for, I guess,” O’Donoghue said. “He’s quite different; he’s struggling with whether or not he should try to become this new person or not and that’s difficult for him because I think there’s a part of him that wants to try to do the right thing, but he’s been living with this hatred and revenge for hundreds of years, so it’s tough to let go of. That’s a real struggle for him.” The simple fact that O’Donoghue believes Hook is struggling with right and wrong proves that he’s a much more complicated man, and seeing Peter Pan (Robbie Kay) as an absolutely tortured and warped because of it soul interestingly offers an insight and dichotomy into Hook, too, that continues to expand the audience’s perception of him. While O’Donoghue shared that he has never approached playing Hook as an “out and out villain,” it has been his selfishness that defined him when we first met him, and now that is shifting. “Selfishness made him do villainous things at times. And a lot of it could be hearsay– a lot of the stories about Hook that people sort of– I don’t know yet, but the way I saw it was that, similar to The Princess Bride…there’s this sort of myth behind him but nobody ever saw it happen,” O’Donoghue said. “I do think he’d happily kill you if he had to, but he might have a little bit of a cry about it after.”
I’ve always felt Hook was more bluster than killer. He seems to rely on intimidation first.
To me, he doesn’t seem to enjoy killing. When he and Regina were in the mines and discussing revenge, Hook seemed to be trying to reach her. It was when she said she was going to kill everyone that he showed her the cuff. Again, Hook turned on Greg and Tamara when they were going to kill everyone. I don’t believe him when he says it is only for himself that he turned on them. Hook seems to try to hide his soft side and I think in episode 5 we learn why. More importantly through out season 2, Hook seemed to always have a bit of a death wish and was ok with dying if the Croc died with him.Even with Cora, I think Hook was not happy about all the villagers being killed. I don’t think Hook helped Cora kill the villagers. If I recall correctly, he was busy getting his ship ready when Cora called him for her plan. She wanted show him some thing special, which I think was more than the sparkly dirt (but was the village as well). My sense was that she already killed everyone and Hook didn’t have a choice but to go along with Cora. She already gave him a choice in Wonderland to work with her or die. I think he wanted to get away from her and in part that’s why he wanted to help team princess. I don’t blame Belle for everything Rumple did while she is/was with him, evthough ugh she has weigh more influence on Rumple than Hook on Cora.The thing with Hook, he doesn’t have any one or really anything in his corner that will protect him, so he can’t straight out tell Cora, Regina, Greg and Tamara that they are wrong and evil. He has to rely on his ability to deceive/double cross to try to stop them.When Cora turned that guy into a fish, Hook “gently kicked” the fish into the water. I say gently because he didn’t boot the guy to hurt him.Even with Belle, he could have shot to kill but he didn’t, In the library, I think he was acting as a distraction to give Smee the ability to steal Bae’s wrap/shawl and not intending to hurt Belle.The only time Hook seemed ok about killing an innocent was Belle in the tower the first time they met. I assume he was going to kill her. that seemed out of character, but he felt it was necessary because he couldn’t have Regina know he was there. I don’t count killing Regina’s guards as killing an innocent because they are bad guys.I very curious as to how Bae and Hook interact and finding out their back story. It seems to me. They spent significant time together, not just a week.
Keeper of Hook and Emma's smoldering first kiss, a certain Pirate's sauciness, the Evil Queen's snarkiness, Grumpy's gruffness and a drop of true love to make it all go down smooth.
sweetgrassParticipantThe actors have to be so careful, and I think if MRJ was cleared to say from his perspective Emma is his one-true-love, then we are pretty safe in thinking he is not getting paired with anyone else, but of course, they don’t have J.Mo saying the same thing so there’s the optical illusion again. We know there’s “feelings” from Hook, true-love from Neal and “love for Neal but she thinks he is dead” on Emma’s part. The door is open for CS, and always there is the possibility that the writers might do something to Neal, kill him or make him the next Dark One or something. Every time Phee talks about 307, especially with Daniel theorizing someone is going to die, I cringe. I don’t want to turn into chicken little but I really hope Neal gets to NL sooner and that 307 is about TinkerBell so that she’s the one that gets the axe. I like her from the clip and all, but of our new characters, I feel she’s the most dispensable in some ways. What if as part of a pan-style mind game, Pan offers Hook or Regina that “next-love-detector” pixie dust–but only if they leave Henry and stop helping Emma? Hm that ought to be on another thread but not sure where to ask that question.
What’s the deal with episode 7?
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sweetgrassParticipantJust clicked on the link and can hear but not see anything. Is that right? If it is we won’t be able to see the sneak peek they’re going to air. Darn. EDIT: Never mind, have figured it out. Probably won’t be able to see the sneak anyway! still, should be good!
the talk should start in2.5hrs. Maybe the visual will work then.
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sweetgrassParticipantI like how Regina said that she has a complicated history with Tinkerbell when she along with Rumple basically have a complicated history with almost everyone on this show. Also, I have a feeling that people are gonna ship Tinkerbell and Regina together after this episode.
i wonder if it will I overtake Swan Queen in popularity. so is this ship called Fairy Queen?
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sweetgrassParticipantIt’s interesting to me that Hook has a tattoo of Milah and Emma wears Graham’s shoelaces. They both carry reminders of the ones they love.
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sweetgrassParticipantI agree! Good to have the marriage thing finally cleared up.
RumplesGirl wrote: “You’ll see different colors to Hook, and to Killian Jones before he becomes Hook.
Is he saying that he was “Hook” before Rumple but only became Hook in name with the Crocodile incident.
i read this we see Killian before he lost his hand and learn more about Hook after he lost his hand.
to Colin he may see pre-dark one and post- dark one killian/hook as different people. Some events are so life altering that the person experiencing the events is radically different.
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sweetgrassParticipantHi RumplesGirl,
this makes me so excited. I can’t wait to see Pan/Hook. I am very curious about their relationship. I am glad Colin is happy with his backstory episode.
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October 8, 2013 at 11:14 am in reply to: Henry's new gang, Who David tells about his wound, Tinkerbell (Thoughts) #214728sweetgrassParticipantI actually think David’s wounding is a good thing storywise, in part because I don’t think he will die. It lets Josh exercise more of his acting chops. It brings up drama and forces him to think what family really means. David is going to go through his dark night of the soul.
David and Henry. Based on interviews I think both Henry and David will question whether their families will be there for them. This gives them parallel journeys and something to bound over once they are together and maybe help each other out.
I think that David will tell Hook or Hook will figure it out. I think this is one of the unlikely alliances that Josh is talking about. Hook will help with the antidote.
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October 7, 2013 at 8:54 pm in reply to: Jennifer Morrison Gives Post – "Lost Girl" Interview #214620sweetgrassParticipantThanks slurpeez. It ‘s nice to have JMo’s perspective on Hook. I agree with her that she and Hook are alike. i wonder if hook will begin to feel taken for granted like Devin. I wonder if the kid Emma spared is Devin.
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