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Very emotional! Speaking of songs, I came across this little gem yesterday, it’s cute and I thought quite apt.
That was a cute song. Who sings it? I thought it was very apt for Hook.
[adrotate group="5"]Keeper of Hook and Emma's smoldering first kiss, a certain Pirate's sauciness, the Evil Queen's snarkiness, Grumpy's gruffness and a drop of true love to make it all go down smooth.
On another forum I frequent someone wondered if Smee is Zelena’s spy/agent. She noted how he was called a rat and how he was always trying to push Hook into the pirate life. My guess probably not, but I thought it was interesting.
I have mixed feelings about Jolly Roger. I wanted Hook to have one person/Disney Princess believe in him and see the good in him. Someone who will stick up for him when the other princess bag on him. Emma is attracted to Hook but she doesn’t really take his side or try to see the good in him. I think there has been a miniscule change in that, but she keeps him at arms length. She always seems surprised that he does something good. Everyone has these low expectations of him but refuse to give him much credit for any good he does. I would get tired of everyone if they never gave me a chance no matter what I did.
In order for him to be seen as good, he basically needs to be a saint to convince anyone and that isn’t realistic. Snow and Emma were totally prepared to fight Mulan to keep the compass and let Aurora die, just to get home to Henry. Hook is expected to give up his ship/home for a bratty stranger who clocked him in the head, held a knife at him and acted like a toddler about the cloak. I love Ariel but she is like a little kid who is oblivious to the needs of others in a somewhat good hearted way.
Hopefully Hook starts to get some wins and some fun in his life. He needs to have people who appreciate him as a person and not a means to achieve whatever goal they have. Even Smee is more interested in what Hook can provide for him then in how Hook the person.
Also I agree that this forum is often one-sided. I feel CS’ers have to really walk on eggshells and go out of their way to not upset the SFers. Sometimes I feel just disagreeing with some of them in a normal, dispassionate way is taken so personally. It should be ok to be happy about your ship, to like your favorite characters and to say so outside of this thread. The double standard bugs me a lot. Any accusation you can make about Hook or CS would be just if not way more applicable to Rumple or Rumbelle, including the TLK not working.
Keeper of Hook and Emma's smoldering first kiss, a certain Pirate's sauciness, the Evil Queen's snarkiness, Grumpy's gruffness and a drop of true love to make it all go down smooth.
I initially didn’t see why they cast someone that viewers would look at and see ‘Dad’…but now I think Blackbeard is meant to show what Hook will become if he does manage to return to his old life. Their fight/his stealing the JR, is maybe the catalyst that makes Hook realize you can’t go back, no matter how much you think you want to. Hence the casting of someone who looks so similar to Colin, dressed similarly, only rougher, meaner, more vicious. Hook is looking at BB and seeing his own future.
that is a good theory. who knows if later on we’ll find out about a family connection
Keeper of Hook and Emma's smoldering first kiss, a certain Pirate's sauciness, the Evil Queen's snarkiness, Grumpy's gruffness and a drop of true love to make it all go down smooth.
I don’t know if anyone has posted this idea before, but this morning, I realized why Hook wants Emma to tell Henry the truth. I think it’s because he lost Bae by not being truthful. bae felt betrayed and used.
Keeper of Hook and Emma's smoldering first kiss, a certain Pirate's sauciness, the Evil Queen's snarkiness, Grumpy's gruffness and a drop of true love to make it all go down smooth.
It’s such a shame Blackbeard isn’t hook’s dad. They look related.
poor hook . All the ladies like to have him at knifepoint — Emma, tink and now Ariel. At least they usually become his friends.
Keeper of Hook and Emma's smoldering first kiss, a certain Pirate's sauciness, the Evil Queen's snarkiness, Grumpy's gruffness and a drop of true love to make it all go down smooth.
Unless his dad is Davy Jones.
Keeper of Hook and Emma's smoldering first kiss, a certain Pirate's sauciness, the Evil Queen's snarkiness, Grumpy's gruffness and a drop of true love to make it all go down smooth.
Do you guys watch Wonderland? I’ve only watched the last three episodes. I had a question about the knave. He worked for Cora. Was there any overlap between him and hook being in Wonderland? Would they know each other?
Keeper of Hook and Emma's smoldering first kiss, a certain Pirate's sauciness, the Evil Queen's snarkiness, Grumpy's gruffness and a drop of true love to make it all go down smooth.
I am a little confused. This isn’t a shipping thread so I think anyone should be able state their opinion.
So we to answer the question, OUAT is really Emma’s journey with strong side of snowing and Regina. it’s about Emma getting her happy ending. At the end of the series she needs to find herself happy with her life and overcoming the obstacles in her life to reach a point of happiness. i still see Emma striving to get her happy ending and I see her getting there at the end.
Because Emma has closed herself from others, I want her life to be full of healthy supportive relationships of all types, familial, romantic and Friendships. this show makes clear that even if you lose your true love, you can still find happiness if you are willing to open your heart and not drown in your sorrow/pain. Both Regina and hook made that mistake. To a certain extent, Emma has made that mistake. Her life was empty before Henry waltzed in. She closed herself off from everyone. The thing is everyone has bad things happen to them. on this show even fairy tale characters don’t have a prefect easy life. There is struggle in life but if you are willing to appreciate the small moments, life is still worth living and celebrating.
Keeper of Hook and Emma's smoldering first kiss, a certain Pirate's sauciness, the Evil Queen's snarkiness, Grumpy's gruffness and a drop of true love to make it all go down smooth.
First I have to say Colin Looks so happy and handsome. he must be so happy to be out of his regular outfit. He probably likes not having to wear the deepV neck or the leather pants. It is probably way more comfortable.
Ok, I’m coming to our refuge to vent a little…. HOW DID I MANAGE TO GET SUCKED INTO THE HOOK ARGUMENT(S) AGAIN?!?!?! WHEN WILL I LEARN?! And why does it bug me so much. Wait, I remember why. Because I still do not get how Hook cannot have some good in him if characters like Regina and Rumple can. Because every character has some good and some bad in them – one of the main themes of the show. I don’t get it. I ask fans who I would consider some of the more knowledgeable of other characters their thoughts and opinions because I don’t want to back myself into a corner and I want to look at the show from multiple points of view. I’m trying not to watch with ‘shipper goggles’. I grasp that people are upset about last week – I am too, I am not happy Neal’s dead and I’m not happy about how they did it. And I loved his scenes with Emma and Hook and Rumple and want MORE. But seriously, at some point it’s like, I’m gonna freaking blow. Let’s try something new instead of the ol’ using Hook as the punching bag argument. It’s old, it’s stale. The cell. Hook left her because he was angry – and impressed – and didn’t for a second think she wouldn’t get out. The swordfight. If he wanted her dead, she’d be dead. “But what’s the fun in killing the girl I just met that I’m frankly quite attracted to? Oh, crap, she just smacked me upside the head with the object I forgot I’m supposed to be taking from her. And, wait, love, before we start our swordfight, here’s yer heart Sleeping Beauty. Wasn’t gonna let you go off without that, either.” The bean. “The bean I looked at before I even got out of the harbor and realized my revenge that I’ve hung onto was futile and not worth it? That bean? Let me turn around, bring it back, and lend myself and my ship to go back to the place I was trapped in for 300 years with super-creepy-evil Pan and his equally-creepy-Boys?” Seriously, people! Rumple dropped his kid down a portal to god knows where!! Regina cursed an entire kingdom because she was sad and blamed her STEPDAUGHTER. Granny slept in the EF with a crossbow because her granddaughter was a wolf and killed her boyfriend. By ripping him apart. Whale tried to ressurrect his brother – that’s just gross. And didn’t Jefferson kidnap Emma or try to kill Emma or something to that effect? I got lost in that twirly magic-hat storyline. Okie, dokie. Time to breathe. I’m better now. Sorry about the rant, but I warned you!! In other news, Killy in a new outfit! HOW HOT IS OUR PIRATE?! Sigh. Swoon. Sigh. Hahaha, @Obisgirl, now I need to check out mine…
totally agree 1000% . You know Rumple was my second favourite character. It was Hook, rumple and teen Bae. I still like rumple, but the double standard on various forums compels to make posts calling out rumple for the evil he has done. It blows me away how anyone can think that Hook is any where near the level of either Rumple or Regina. I have seen people argue that Hook is worse because he challenged a pre dark Rumple to a duel and humiliated the cowardly Rumple. I agree it’s not Hook’s finest hour but there is no way that is worse then maiming someone or killing someone. Rumple doesn’t get too much sympathy from me for crippling himself, anymore than an orphan who killed his own parents, especially when he crippled himself so that braver better men could die to defend his home, his family.
the whole he left her on a cell to die argument ignores that Emma tied Hook to a tree, whistled to attract the ogres and planned on leaving him after he told them the truth. They only released him after he convinced them he could be valuable to them. There was no mercy, no goodness on team princess side. Despite that he still works with them, only to betrayed by Emma up with giant. Emma knew that hook was being sincere and she willfully ignored that Cora was as much of a threat as the giant to Hook and really Cora only spared Hook’s life to make him suffer. At that point he owed team princess nothing. They used him and showed no to very little regard for his safety so it would extremely hypocritical and ridiculous of them to expect better treatment from him.
what is interesting was that Snow and Emma were willing to kill Mulan and let Aurora die to keep the compass and go to Storybrook.
i also think that hook’s quest to slay the beast that murdered his love is actually far more understandable and justifiable than anything motivating Rumple or Regina. let’s be honest many hero’s stories are about bringing cold blooded murderers/beasts to justice. except for Belle (who is an ally and willfully blind, hypocritical defender of Rumple) hook has limited the collateral damage in the pursuit of his goals unlike either Rumple or Regina. I want to write one more thing– belle fans often like to argue that belle saved Hook’s life and therefore Hook was even worse for shooting her. that argument does not move me. Belle pleaded with a Rumple to spare Hook’s life because she wanted to prove that rumple was a better man than hook, that rumple was not a bad person. She didn’t care about hook. She was disgusted by him. Hook also preferred to die, so she gets no points from me for that.
Keeper of Hook and Emma's smoldering first kiss, a certain Pirate's sauciness, the Evil Queen's snarkiness, Grumpy's gruffness and a drop of true love to make it all go down smooth.
