ONCE057: The Crocodile initial reactions

October 21, 2012 by 3 Comments

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Sail back to learn of someone’s origin and conclusion. Bid farewell to love and hello to an a vengeful alliance.

These are just our first thoughts about this Once Upon a Time episode, and we’ll share more in our upcoming full episode.

Belle’s disgust over Mr. Gold’s continuing thirst for power comes to a head, and she threatens to leave him if he can’t change his evil ways; the dwarves pick up their axes and try to find fairy dust in the Storybrooke mine; and a reunion with an old acquaintance could prove to be Belle’s undoing. Meanwhile, back in the fairytale land that was, Rumplestiltskin attempts to save his wife, Milah, from being kidnapped by a band of cutthroat pirates.

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Initial reactions

Some of our interesting discussion points (in no particular order):

  • Rumbelle fans may hate this episode, but feel hopeful yet with the ending.
  • Our suspicions were confirmed that Rumplestiltskin’s wife ran away and that he killed her for it!
  • Gold is making spells, trying to figure out how to break this “new curse” keeping him in Storybrooke.
  • We saw how Smee and Captain Hook got to be the way we know them.
  • Belle gets to reopen the library, just like from Beauty and the Beast.
  • Rumple was the first to pull out beating hearts and crush them—this makes sense how Cora and Regina learned it.
  • What fairy tell was a butcher turned into a pig?
  • We’ve now seen Rumplestiltskin play major roles in four of the characters’ fairy tales:
    • Hook’s “crocodile”
    • Belle’s “beast”
    • Cinderella’s “fairy godmother”
    • Rumplestiltskin to the Miller’s daughter
  • Hook and Cora are allied to return to Storybrooke for revenge against Regina and Rumplestiltskin, respectively.
  • We’ll update our Fairy Tale Land Timeline with this new information, to help clarify the timing.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/kasey.thacker Kasey Thacker

    I was really feeling sorry for Bay in this episode. His mother never once asks how Bay is doing. He was never even mentioned until Rumple mentioned him. Poor kid… the dark one was his less terrible parent.

  • http://twitter.com/queen_frostine Diana

    I’m fairly certain that this new curse isn’t one that was cast, but is a consequence of Gold bringing magic to our world, a place where it was never supposed to belong. Gold seemed to imply as much during his talk with Belle in the library. When Belle said that Gold brought back magic rather than starting right off to look for Bae, Gold says to her that he’s a coward, that magic is a crutch he doesn’t know how to walk without and that he now knows that he can never leave this place. That makes it sound like all 3 of those thing are connected. Building on that, right after he said that Belle pieces together why Gold can never leave (because if he left to look for him, he would no longer know his son) and Gold’s response was “magic comes with a price.”

    It doesn’t sound at all like Gold believes that this new curse is something someone else put in place, and I think he’s likely right. It makes sense, since all series long the cost of magic has been a major theme. It seems inevitable that the price would catch up to Rumple/Gold at some point. He may have had other people do his work for him in enacting the curse, but it was still his magic. I don’t think it’s any accident that the new curse affected the town in a way that hurt him the most.

    • http://DanielJLewis.net/about Daniel J. Lewis

      Great thoughts, Diana! I’ll try to incorporate this into our full discussion podcast.