Queen of Hearts initial reactions – ONCE067

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Answers about Wonderland, present-day fairy tale land, and so many awesome surprises from this winter, mid-season finale! This was our favorite episode so far of the second season!

These are just our first thoughts about this Once Upon a Time episode. We’ll share more about “Queen of Hearts” in our upcoming full episode.

Cora and Hook face off with Mary Margaret and Emma in a race to secure the compass, which will point its holder to the portal into Storybrooke. But back on the other side, Regina and Mr. Gold, desperate to keep Cora out, put a plan into action that would kill anyone entering the portal – placing Mary Margaret’s and Emma’s lives in danger as well. Meanwhile, back in the fairytale land that was, Captain Hook travels to Wonderland and meets up with a vengeful Queen of Hearts.

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Initial reactions

Some of our interesting discussion points (in no particular order):

  • CORA IS THE QUEEN OF HEARTS! We’re quite excited that we nailed this one a long time ago.
  • EMMA HAS MAGIC! This was also wonderful to see!
  • We got so many answers to questions and even little theories in this episode.
  • Hook’s hook was enchanted and could take just one heart, but Cora’s is hidden! Where? Maybe it’s hidden inside Regina?
  • We thought Regina was about to sacrifice her life.
  • Now we know that Rumplestiltskin was willingly captured and had a plan for remembering Emma’s name.
  • How did Hook come back from Neverland and where did he hear about the weapon that could kill the Dark One?
  • Did Hook kill the giant to get the dead magic bean?
  • Aurora got her heart back and now she and Mulan can search for Prince Philip’s soul.
  • Cora was the one who protected that corner of the enchanted forest from being cursed.
  • Will Regina turn evil again or redeem herself?
  • What will happen now that Cora and Hook are in Storybrooke? Does Cora have something other than revenge planned?

We gave everything a brief overview and would love to hear your thoughts!

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  • s.g.

    does anyone think that its possible that cora’s heart was put into aurora? now that cora is in storybrooke i’m a little less sure, but cora doesn’t seem the type to release a pawn if she can.

    • http://DanielJLewis.net/about Daniel J. Lewis

      I thought of that, too. But I don’t think Cora would be so careless with her own heart.

  • underyourstars

    I really can’t say I was too terribly surprised at anything that happened in this episode… Except the scene with Hook and Belle, but mostly that was because whatever Belle was wearing struck me as being more circa modern day Storybrook…??? The timeline in my head got all jumbled for a second, there. :-) I did feel terribly sad for Regina there at the end…I mean, the woman is trying to have a change of heart! At least invite her to dinner or something!

    • fullquiver

      I agree. Why didn’t they invite her to dinner?

  • http://twitter.com/queen_frostine Diana

    What do you think Cora and Hook using a bean to get to Storybrook means for the theory that the bean Bae used moved him through both space and time? Up until now, the most widely accepted theory about Baelfire’s fate (supported by what Gold said to Belle in The Crocodile) has been that the bean took him to our world and to our time to account for the fact that centuries had passed between the time of Desperate Souls and The Stranger and the onset of the curse. But if the beans delivered Cora and Hook to present day Strorybrooke, that’s only a trip through space. If time was a variable in portal travel, you’d think it’d come to play with Cora and Hook somehow.

    • fullquiver

      I’m not sure Cora & Hook went directly to our world. I think they may have gone to Neverland first. That would explain how they got a ship.

      • http://DanielJLewis.net/about Daniel J. Lewis

        Hook had previously said, “When do we set sail?” So he probably had his ship in Enchanted Forest when the curse struck.

    • http://DanielJLewis.net/about Daniel J. Lewis

      Yes, time travel across worlds has been used before. It has also not been used before. Consider Jefferson’s hat. It travelled parallel between Enchanted Forest and Wonderland and from Storybrooke to Present-Day FTL. But the hat also traveled from present Storybrooke to past Enchanted Forest when Jefferson retrieved the apple for Regina.

  • http://twitter.com/McOnceTown McOnceUponATime

    Now I’m wondering if Cora actually wants to hurt Regina – she kept saying my daughter needs me – So does Cora actually want to get to Storybrooke to help Regina afterall she was going to take Snows heart so maybe she does want to help Regina.

    • http://DanielJLewis.net/about Daniel J. Lewis

      That’s the big mystery to me, too! It sounds like Cora’s motherly instincts are coming in, but in a misguided way. Then again, most of Cora’s other actions seem to imply that Cora wants revenge.

      • http://twitter.com/McOnceTown McOnceUponATime

        Yeah that was my initial thought but for this episode towards the end she seemed to be more interested in getting to Storybrooke to help Regina not hurt her? but everything before the episode and even in the first half suggested otherwise.

        • http://DanielJLewis.net/about Daniel J. Lewis

          Well, I don’t know about that now. I went back to “The Crocodile” and Cora never implied revenge. Hook said, “You’ll be able to see your daughter.”

          I started a thread in our forum about this.

          • http://twitter.com/McOnceTown McOnceUponATime

            You’re right she never actually says revenge I think it’s implied by the way she says things and maybe the writers did it that way to make the fans think it was what Cora was after.

  • ErinBC

    OMG don’t even put that out there… REGINA WILL NOT DIIIIIIIEEEE TnT

    • http://DanielJLewis.net/about Daniel J. Lewis

      I don’t want to see it, but I do think that one of our main characters will sacrifice themselves. If it’s Regina, then it will be the finale of her pursuit of redemption. Her change of heart could be so huge, that she accepts responsibility for her wrong actions and then gives her life to save others’.

      This reminds me of John 15:13 from the Bible: “Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends” [English Standard Version].

  • Panos

    I totaly agree with you!!!!! and I also think the same about Regi!! why they left her back??????

  • Chris

    Does anyone else think that Emma revealing her “magic” to Rumple was a bad move? She still owes him that favor and the look in his eye was certainly unnerving.

    It was sad to see Regina, being shut out of the little celebration. After all, if she hadn’t had that change of heart there would have been no reason to celebrate. What do you think, has she absorbed the magic of the barrier and thus got more powerful? It also was green, another nod to OZ or was it just because it looked more menacing. Oh my, I wish that hiatus was over alread, eventhough it hasn’t really started yet.

    • http://DanielJLewis.net/about Daniel J. Lewis

      Mr. Gold has hinted at Emma’s magic before, so he probably wasn’t surprised.
      Besides, Jefferson also knew that Emma had magic.

      • Chris

        True, but that’s not what I meant. I also belive that Mr. Gold knew that Emma had that slumbering ability but now he knows for certain that her power has awakened. This also raises an interesting question: If Emma’s magic is the product of true love wouldn’t this make her magic the most potent of all? After all we must not forget that what brought magic to our world was the true love potion. I think we will see a struggle over her and her magic by three fractions (Cora, Mr. Gold and the Blue Fairy) before this season ends

        Do you really think Jefferson knew? I always thought he more hoped that she would have magic to get one of his hats to work.

        • http://DanielJLewis.net/about Daniel J. Lewis

          (Thank you for not misusing “begs the question. :) )

          Yes, we agree that Emma’s magic is probably the most powerful, but that does not necessarily mean the most versatile. Hers and the fairies’ magic are the only good magic I’m aware of our seeing. She has a ton to learn about magic.

          Jefferson probably assumed Emma had magic because he saw things changing when she came to Storybrooke. For one thing, he could leave his house after being trapped there for 28 years.

  • s.g.

    One thing i’d love for you guys to discuss in the break down of this latest episode later this week is the tension between Hook and Emma. Obviously we’ve got something going on, there was a lot of talk about his “sword,” after all. is he playing her, is it genuine, is it shaping up to be a love triangle between emma neal and hook?

    • http://DanielJLewis.net/about Daniel J. Lewis

      If Hook has any feelings for Emma, they could still show up. Hook already knew his bean would get them to Storybrooke, so his fight with Emma could have been a show for Cora’s trust.

  • Michelle & Grace

    my co-worker and I believe that we have not seen the last of the “ink” found in rumple’s cell. Could the ink for August’s typewriter ribbon have rumple’s special “squid ink”?? If so that might add credit to the theory that Neal was somehow entranced with “magic” when August opened his box. — I know that theory opens up more questions like “how did August get the ink?” but we don’t even know how he came into possession of the typewriter.

    • Jimmy Mackey

      Oh, interesting idea about the typewriter Michelle & Grace; there was definitely a spell at work there. Mr. Gold has magic, this we know too because he gave it to Regina. I think he’s holding a lot up his sleeve that we will see him do when it comes down to Cora and her interfering with Mr. Gold’s plans to get his son back. The whole season has been getting better every episode. My DISH coworker’s family and mine get together Monday and watch the latest episode. Now we can fit in another show too since my coworker suggested getting the Hopper so I can use the Auto Hop feature to watch commercial free. I can select it to automatically skip the commercials and then we watch straight through. What I like the most is that I get time to watch more TV and enjoy more of the shows we love.

    • http://DanielJLewis.net/about Daniel J. Lewis

      That’s a good theory!

      But we also don’t know for certain whether the typewriter is magical.

      That we saw the dark outline of the typewriter in “Tallahassee” may have been a production glitch.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=527856157 Melissa Forte

    I think Cora’s heart is in her vault that is now in Storybrook.

    • http://DanielJLewis.net/about Daniel J. Lewis

      The only vault we know of in Storybrooke is Regina’s.

  • Saskia

    I think the favour Mr Gold may ask of Emma is help in killing Hook before he kills him. Since Emma is now magical, she could prove very helpful to Mr Gold if they were to combine powers

    • http://DanielJLewis.net/about Daniel J. Lewis

      We’ve been thinking that Mr. Gold knew all along what the favor was that he wanted from Emma. But then again, it could be that he just knew she was powerful and he wanted that at his disposal, in case he would ever need it. The latter is seeming more reasonable at this point.

  • Ivy

    The Cinderella fairy god mothers wand reminded me that Rumpel wanted her 1st born I wonder if it was because it was also a child product of true love?

    About the theory of Regina having Coras heart if she does why would Cora wanted to kill her after Hook told her she wanted her dead of was everything part of her plan? I also wonder if Cora took her own heart after loving and loosing someone too (Love is weakens)

    In Wonderlad we knew from earlier that Cora/Queen of Hearts had Henry senior there how did she got him there? and why did she trapped him in a weird form?

    Did anyone else find a little weird that it was Aurora, who was being controlled by Cora the one who found the scroll with Emmas name?

    Also did anyone notice that while arriving to StoryBrooke Cora was holding a dead rose?

    • http://DanielJLewis.net/about Daniel J. Lewis

      Yes, wanting Cinderella’s firstborn could have been to help make the curse. But then again, we have to consider the timeline. Rumple most likely got the true-love potion from Charming and Snow before meeting Cinderella. It could have all been a play in order to get Emma to promise him a favor, if he could “glimpse” that much of the future.

      The dead rose Cora was holding was the rose Regina gave her when Regina thought Cora was dead. We brought this up in our full discussion episode.