The Outsider initial reactions – ONCE073

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Once Upon a Time’s “outsider” was different and more adventurous than we expected! But who is this new stranger?

These are just our first thoughts about this Once Upon a Time episode. We’ll share more about “The Outsider” in our upcoming full episode.

Mr. Gold finds an unwilling test subject to see if a spell he has concocted will allow him to cross the border of Storybrooke — without losing his memory — and go in search of his son, Bae; Belle stumbles upon a vengeful Hook in the Storybrooke harbor whose main goal is to eradicate Rumplestiltskin; and Mary Margaret and David go house hunting in search of a bigger place to live. Meanwhile, in the fairytale land that was, Belle meets Mulan as the two set out to slay a fearsome beast called the Yaoguai, who has been ravaging the land.

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Initial reactions

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  • LazyM

    Great episode. Plenty of surprises, character development, answers to old questions and new questions that need answers.

    You mentioned something in the podcast about the similarity between the motives of Maleficent and Regina. I’ve long held a theory that Regina wasn’t Rumpelstiltskin’s first attempt at creating a person that would cast The Dark Curse. If he had, unsuccessfully, tried to get Maleficent, and even Cora, to cast the curse before, it would explain how both of them knew so much about the curse. It would also explain why Maleficent tried to stop Regina from casting the curse.

    For his purposes, Rumpelstiltskin would need:

    1 villain desperate for vengeance against a loving couple, and willing to destroy an entire realm to get it.

    1 product of said true love to break the curse and allow Rumples to leave town while still in possession of his magical powers.

    • http://DanielJLewis.net/about Daniel J. Lewis

      We had discussed Cora’s potential involvement with the curse, but I hadn’t considered Maleficent other than her trade with Regina.

  • Sarahfromaustralia

    I think the driver of the car may be August/Pinocchio. The car seemed to be going very fast and possibly out of control as you would expect if a wooden puppet was driving it. Wooden arms and legs wouldn’t have the fine motor skills or agility to control a car smoothly.
    Or maybe Regina had been hiding safely outside of Storeybrooke and was returning only to see this battle going on and she thought she could take out Gold or Hook or both with the car (in her anger of the recent events). Did the number plate match the car we’ve seen her driving in previously?

    Love the Podcast!

    • http://DanielJLewis.net/about Daniel J. Lewis

      No, the plates are not Regina’s.

  • Sarahfromaustralia

    Can you remind me again why Rumple couldn’t cast the curse himself? Why did he need someone else to do it?

    • LazyM

      He didn’t what to pay the price. After all, “Magic always comes with a price, dearie.”

    • http://DanielJLewis.net/about Daniel J. Lewis

      Casting the curse would mean sacrificing what he loves most, which he didn’t have.

  • Michelle G.

    Love the podcast. — In regards to who told Hook about Bae, I think he always new that Mr. Gold had a son. In the episode “The Crocodile” Rumple and Mila get into a big argument on Hooks ship and Rumple asked Mila how could she abandon Bae. Its possible that their conversation was just between the two of them, but I think everyone on the ship heard them. SO I don’t think Dr. Hopper told Hook about Bae. I think Hook has known about Rumples son BUT he has no idea about the depth of love Rumple has for his son.

    • http://DanielJLewis.net/about Daniel J. Lewis

      Knowing that Rumple had a son is different from knowing that Rumple is still looking for his still-alive son.

  • LarryM

    Are we *sure* Gold has magic outside of Storybrooke? After Bell has been shot across the line, Rumple starts looking at his hands, then drags Belle back into Storybrooke -then- produces the fireball in his hand. I think magic might stop at the town line.

    • http://DanielJLewis.net/about Daniel J. Lewis

      That sounds possible, but I don’t think we have enough evidence to know that for sure.