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  • September 30, 2018 at 5:25 pm #347765

    In reply to: Emma Swan Character Analysis

    Sci-Fi Girl
    Participant

    Hi, I posted a song for Emma in a thread for … songs:

    Songs that remind me of OUAT

    Enjoy! ????

    SFG

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    Keeper of Anna’s Awkward Babbling and Kristoff’s Fur-trimmed Tunic!

    September 28, 2018 at 4:09 am #347752

    In reply to: Songs that remind me of OUAT

    Sci-Fi Girl
    Participant

    Here is one for Emma. It is not exactly clear at first, but there is a line in the middle that makes it unmistakable:

    so rise swan, open your wings, put off your duckling guise
    carry the maiden born to be queen over the rolling skies

    Then this next verse becomes about how Emma came to Storybrook, to discover her true home and family:

    shine bright starlight hold tight swift flight
    home to the new-made nest
    worries and maybes will not delay thee
    lovers and friends await thee —

    And the recurring refrain in the chorus must tell of Emma’s role as savior, bringing back the happy endings. For where she has been, sorrow no longer visits:

    and the lords of constant sorrow will not dare to look upon
    the bonnie gardens of tomorrow that spring up where you have gone, amazon

    So much to analyze here, so I will post the full song and lyrics, with further analysis after.

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    By Dave Carter and Tracy Grammer

    ~

    come home, knock at the gate, summon the guardian moon
    though winter is nigh and the hour is late, she’ll open up for you

    outside hard times, redlines, deadlines,
    people you just can’t please
    climbers and graspers, best-laid disasters —
    we don’t make much of these

    rest your head my weary sister, lay your tireless body down
    with your tears and tender whispers, we will turn the thirsty ground
    and the lords of constant sorrow will not dare to march upon
    the bonnie gardens of tomorrow that spring up where you have gone, amazon

    hard lie the hobbles and cuffs over the dreary day
    but sage rhymes and oracle doves chisel the chains away

    though clever jesters clip your feathers
    tether your pinions proud
    prisons will open, bonds will be broken
    daisies will dance in rounds

    rest your head my weary sister, lay your tireless body down
    with your tears and tender whispers, we will turn the thirsty ground
    and the lords of constant sorrow will not dare to look upon
    the bonnie gardens of tomorrow that spring up where you have gone, amazon

    so rise swan, open your wings, put off your duckling guise
    carry the maiden born to be queen over the rolling skies

    shine bright starlight hold tight swift flight
    home to the new-made nest
    worries and maybes will not delay thee
    lovers and friends await thee —

    rest your head my weary sister, lay your tireless body down
    with your tears and tender whispers we will turn the world around
    for the lords of constant sorrow cannot bear to look upon
    the golden gardens of tomorrow that spring up where you have gone, amazon

    Lyrics from Tracy’s website. (Scroll down the page for this song.)

    ~

    Ok, detailed analysis.

    come home, knock at the gate, summon the guardian moon
    though winter is nigh and the hour is late, she'll open up for you

    "come home, knock at the gate" Emma arriving in Storybrook.
    "guardian moon" = Granny? Giving Emma a room?

    outside hard times, redlines, deadlines,
    people you just can't please
    climbers and graspers, best-laid disasters —
    we don't make much of these

    Hmm, "outside", so the old days as a bail bonds person?

    rest your head my weary sister, lay your tireless body down
    with your tears and tender whispers, we will turn the thirsty ground
    and the lords of constant sorrow will not dare to march upon
    the bonnie gardens of tomorrow that spring up where you have gone, amazon

    Chorus, like I said before, savior job of bringing back the happy endings. But it's not an easy job! ????

    hard lie the hobbles and cuffs over the dreary day
    but sage rhymes and oracle doves chisel the chains away

    "Cuffs" = Sheriff Emma carrying handcuffs, a daily job.
    And "Oracle doves" is clearly advice coming from Snow.

    though clever jesters clip your feathers
    tether your pinions proud
    prisons will open, bonds will be broken
    daisies will dance in rounds

    "prisons will open", well Emma was in prison, but she didn't stay there!

    rest your head my weary sister, lay your tireless body down
    with your tears and tender whispers, we will turn the thirsty ground
    and the lords of constant sorrow will not dare to look upon
    the bonnie gardens of tomorrow that spring up where you have gone, amazon

    Chorus again

    so rise swan, open your wings, put off your duckling guise
    carry the maiden born to be queen over the rolling skies

    From ugly duckling, to Princess Emma!

    shine bright starlight hold tight swift flight
    home to the new-made nest
    worries and maybes will not delay thee
    lovers and friends await thee —

    Dove and Swan, of course home town is a nest! Filled with all the people who love Emma.

    rest your head my weary sister, lay your tireless body down
    with your tears and tender whispers we will turn the world around
    for the lords of constant sorrow cannot bear to look upon
    the golden gardens of tomorrow that spring up where you have gone, amazon

    And the chorus again.

    Songs by Dave Carter always have a million layers of meaning, there is probably way more I haven’t even spotted!

    SFG

    Keeper of Anna’s Awkward Babbling and Kristoff’s Fur-trimmed Tunic!

    July 17, 2018 at 11:31 pm #347709

    In reply to: Once Kill Counts

    bibliophile
    Participant

    Some details on the main cast/top killers…

    MOTHER GOTHEL KILLED
    Rapunzel
    25ish party goers
    +BONUS Mass murder infinity for apparently somehow killing everyone in our world in some distant past that doesn’t make sense.

    REGINA KILLED
    The Blind Witch
    The Count of Monte Cristo
    A Gnome guy
    A Groom
    A Mermaid
    The Oracle 1 (killed by the separated Evil Queen in S6)
    Hearts 2 (1 in box that wasn’t Katheryn and the 1 in Zombie Daniel)
    Her Father Henry Senior
    Her jester
    Kurt Flynn
    Sheriff Graham
    Snow’s Father Leopold
    Misc. soldiers/guards 8
    Peasant 1 (the one later re-killed in the Underworld by Cora)
    The Wish Charmings 2
    VILLAGES BURNED for Mass Murder Bonus – 3(we think there at least three separate villages Regina burned, but there were almost certainly more)
    NOT COUNTED (but maybe should’ve been)
    all those dead kids in The Blind Witch’s House which we didn’t count, but which Regina more or less admits to sending there to die.

    CORA KILLED
    Snow’s Mother Eva
    Daniel (Regina’s first boyfriend)
    Johanna
    VILLAGES BURNED for Mass Murder Bonus – 1

    RUMPLE KILLED
    Cinderella’s Fairy Godmother
    Fiona/The Black Fairy/Mom
    Gaston
    Himself x3
    Malcolm/Peter Pan/Dad
    The Medicine Man (baby contract guy)
    Milah
    Misc. soldiers/badguys 5
    Onora (The Mute Maid)
    Peasants 1
    The Seer
    Tamara
    Zoso
    Facilier (well Wumple killed him actually)

    CHARMING KILLED
    Percival
    Unnamed guards/soldiers 10
    The Woodcutter

    HOOK KILLED
    Barnaby
    Edgar
    His Father
    Merlin
    Jekyll/Hyde
    King George’s Henchmen 2
    Robert (Papa) Charming
    Soldiers/guards/bad guys 2

    SNOW WHITE KILLED
    Medusa
    Cora
    Charming (briefly)
    Soldiers/guards/bad guys 6

    ZELENA KILLED
    Baelfire/Neal
    Hades
    Marion
    Peasants/guards 1
    Scarecrow

    EMMA KILLED
    Cruella

    HENRY KILLED
    1 Soldier/guard/bad guy

    ALICE KILLED
    Mother Goethal

    CRUELLA KILLED
    Her mother
    Her father
    Two step-fathers

    DRIZELLA KILLED
    Gretel 2.0

    FACILIER KILLED
    Hansel 2.0

    HADES KILLED
    Arthur
    Robin Hood

    Peter Pan KILLED
    Greg
    Felix

    RAPUNZEL KILLED
    Ninderella’s (New Cinderella’s) Fairy godmother
    Ninderella’s prince

    ROBIN HOOD
    The guard he inadvertently squished in OZ

    June 10, 2018 at 6:53 am #347677

    In reply to: Once Upon a Quote

    bibliophile
    Participant

    Emma (about Henry discovering he was born in jail): Are you scarred for life?
    Henry: No. …Well, not by this.

    June 7, 2018 at 8:50 am #347671

    In reply to: Once Upon a Quote

    bibliophile
    Participant

    Regina to Emma: “Oh, I’m sorry, did you not want everyone to know you cut his cord with a shiv?”

    June 3, 2018 at 8:29 am #347662

    In reply to: Once Upon a Quote

    bibliophile
    Participant

    Emma: I’ll play. Who’s he supposed to be?
    Henry: Jiminy Cricket.
    Emma: Right, the lying thing. Thought your nose grew a little bit.
    Henry: I’m not Pinocchio!
    Emma: Course you’re not. ‘Cause THAT would be ridiculous.

    June 2, 2018 at 10:27 am #347661

    In reply to: Once Upon a Quote

    bibliophile
    Participant

    Emma: Just because you believe something doesn’t make it true.
    Henry: That’s exactly what makes it true.

    June 1, 2018 at 7:12 pm #347659

    In reply to: FINAL TIMELINE AND AGES

    AidenXJeffrey
    Participant

    Sorry, but Alice can’t be older than Ella. In 7×09, “One Little Tear”, Ella is already a teenager and those episode’s flashbacks take place before 7×07, “Eloise Gardener”, the episode in which Alice was born. Gothel was banished to the tower in 7×09 and escaped in 7×07.

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    Alice is technically a wish realm character as 7×21 Homecoming has explained (without explaining) that their world is a carbon copy of their ENTIRE world, not just the Enchanted Forest with the appearance of Peter Pan who was from Neverland and who died in February of 2013 in Storybrooke.  The Peter Pan we saw was a Wish Realm Peter Pan from a Wish Realm Neverland.  I have a post where I have touched on this and how Rapunzel’s story proves they’re from their world as their story was in Henry’s storybook in 7×09, but Gothel, is Wish Realm Gothel, not the real one from their world as her encounter with Nook in 7×07 proves it along with the revelation from Homecoming because if that wasn’t the case then the events in 6×10 would hold no validity as Nook was 31 years older than our Hook.

    Where Was Enchanted Forest 2.0 Located?

    “Eloise Gardener” and “Knightfall“, (Possibly “One Little Tear” and the opening scene of “Sisterhood“.) all take place after the Evil Queen grants Emma’s wish but before Emma arrives in the the Wish Realm.

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    Yes her wish created the Wish Realm, which created 31 years worth of history AFTER the curse was going to be cast but wasn’t.  The events of 7×09 One Little Tear ARE before the events of 7×07 Eloise Gardener, however, with the wish realm into play creating 31 years of history and with Ella 2.0, Drizzy, Ana and Rapunzel being from their world and not the wish realm and making them around Henry’s age then the only conclusions would be that Alice is not a wish realm character but from their world and she’s 10 years YOUNGER than our Henry and literally 28 years younger than Emma because then you’d factor in the 28 years being frozen in their world and Emma deciding to stay in Storybrooke, making time in their world to resume, also making time in the wish realm to resume, sending Nook to EF 2.0, then that could be a possibility, but as I’ve mentioned, with the Wish Realm being a copy of their entire world and Rapunzel 2.0’s story in Henry’s storybook and there being a copy of EVERYONE, then Alice 2.0, who’s a WISH REALM character as her father is also, and Ella 2.0 being from their world and the wish realm not “existing” until 6×10, on Emma’s 31st birthday, then yes, Alice can be older than Ella.  However, with there being a Wish Ella, then that would make Wish Ella older than Alice 2.0 by 14 years, but of course this is just expounding on my theory of the location of EF 2.0 and the the origin of Gothel, if she is a Wish Realm version or a real one based on 7×07.

    June 1, 2018 at 8:56 am #347657

    In reply to: FINAL TIMELINE AND AGES

    Anonymous
    Inactive

    “Eloise Gardener” and “Knightfall“, (Possibly “One Little Tear” and the opening scene of “Sisterhood“.) all take place after the Evil Queen grants Emma’s wish but before Emma arrives in the the Wish Realm.

    May 30, 2018 at 9:52 am #347604

    In reply to: Once Upon a Quote

    bibliophile
    Participant

    Emma: Is it possible for someone to have the darkness, but use it for good, use it to protect people?
    Merlin: Emma, don’t let those thoughts tempt you.
    Emma: But is it true?
    Merlin: Someday perhaps there will be a person who’s worthy to hold that much power and not let it burn through to darken their soul. But if we can wipe out the darkness, we’ll never have to ask that much of anyone. (cough RUMPLE cough)
    – 5.7 Nimue

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