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Ok, I feel like we need some goodness, so I’m going to post this here in our haven. Because it’s so stinking cute I love it. And we need some stinking cuteness right now. I think the last bit’s my favorite – hahaha
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Operation Find Colin…a success!
No, that’s not Photoshop, people. That really is me and Colin. I actually met him. In person. Damn near swooned. Literally. I don’t think my heart has slowed down properly since. Here is the tale (where I come out mostly lame IMO, LOL):
I got home from work to an askbox filled with messages: COLIN’S IN EAST NASHVILLE. GO. You know who you are. And seriously, East Nashville’s a big place. But the Colin tag to the rescue! So I figured out which bar in East Nashville and hopped in my car and drove over there.
There were a bunch of trucks and vans outside, so I figured I must be in the right place! So I stood across the street for a while, like an HOUR while, not wanting to interrupt their filming or crew or anything. (Like I said, lame. I normally don’t have the balls to even do something like this but it’s BLOODY COLIN O’DONOGHUE. I had to at least try.)
Anyway, eventually one of the crew guys, Kevin, saw me and waved. I ran across the street and said that I didn’t want to bother them, but I wondered if I could say hello to Colin. I explained that I was just a normal (HA!) fan, and after I spoke to him I’d be gone and out of their hair. So Kevin (he really was the best!) went and spoke to the producers and came back and said that they had just started rolling but as soon as they had a break, he’d get Colin for me. Then he came back like twice more to let me know he hadn’t forgotten me, to just sit tight.
So I waited. Another crew guy let me back onto the patio where some other crew were just hanging out while they were rolling inside. And I waited some more.
Then the side door opens and there’s my new friend Kevin with Colin in tow. As soon as I saw him, my first words were “OH MY GOD.” Like you are not prepared for Colin in person. You think you are, but NOPE. He smiled that silly grin at me and…thank god, I was leaning against the wall cause I’m pretty sure they would have been scraping me off the pavement.
So Colin comes over holds out his hand (which I shook, good handshake on that man, like anyone is surprised) and says “Hi, I’m Colin.” LIKE i DON’T KNOW WHO YOU ARE, YOU PRECIOUS BB. And no, you’re not ready for the accent either. Jesus, Mary and Joseph. I managed to tell him my name and that it was so nice of him to come out. And he said, “Did you want a picture?” My yes may or may not have been a bit too loud. Sorry Colin. Anyway, I pulled out my phone (that has my Captain Swan case on it!) and handed it to Kevin, who took THREE pics of us. The above is the best one, although they are all amazing.
I asked him how he liked Nashville so far and he said it was really nice, but he hadn’t seen a lot of it yet since they were so busy. I managed to babble about my move here ten years ago and how much I loved it here and if he got the chance he should see more of it. And he said he’d try. (with that damn grin again, please stop, Colin)
He said it was nice to meet me and I thanked him (and Kevin!), shook his hand AGAIN, waved and headed on my way. Shaking all the way to my car. I’m pretty sure my heart hasn’t recovered yet. HOLY SHIT I JUST MET COLIN O’DONOGHUE.
A few other things: he smells good. Like really good. Those worried for some reason about scruff: DON’T WORRY. I could already see it growing back in and he probably shaved this morning. Relax. Two days tops and the Hook scruff is back. 😀
[adrotate group="5"](source for above – I’m too lazy to edit but I want to give credit where credit is due! 🙂 )
That post on the other thread was disgusting. That’s all that deserves to be said about it.
@MysteryKat25 I wish you could hear the applause!!! Don’t keep the rants in, you write beautifully 🙂
@Jenna_B thanks for that post. Colin is such a sweetheart. I hate that he gets crapped on by so-called “fans” because they dislike Hook or because he’s not overly active on social media. It’s obvious that he cares a lot about his work and is grateful to his fans.I read over the much hated letter you all are talking about and I’m furious and sad that Jen felt she needed to defend comments she made in interview that in hindsight were not even offensive to begin with.
What I hope doesn’t happen going forward is that actors from the show feel like they have to censor themselves to try not make everyone angry.
I’ve always said that Twitter is a privalage and it is. Jen could seriously do what Meghan Ory did and decide enough is enough and shut down her twitter account because it isn’t worth it dealing with the haters.
I don’t need to make myself anymore stressed over this. And Jen shouldn’t be either.
Agreed on all counts. The more I think about it the sicker I feel. It’s ridiculous and annoying.
PAINFUL THINGS have happened on the show. I get that and some people will feel the effects of it long after others have moved on but I really really hope that every interview in the future isn’t a constant reminder of what happened in the past instead of focusing on what is going on now.
So beyond annoyed that she felt the need to explain herself more fully. Totally understand the defensive nature of things but I feel like it just makes it worse. On top of that, it panders to the crowd that says “if he weren’t dead…” because she left room for “Well maybe” – well maybe my foot.
It is her JOB to know her character and what they think and feel about things. She is COMPLETELY allowed to explain what has ACTUALLY HAPPENED on the show and include in that a list of the betrayals Emma feels because guess what – EMMA FEELS THEM.
I really don’t care whether ANY fans feel that those reasons are legit or not. You know why? Because it does not matter. We are not Emma. JMO on the other hand has to BE Emma and understand her character motivation to do so. So why is it SO FAR OUT THERE that she can *gasp* say what Emma feels and thinks? She was well within her rights as oh, a HUMAN BEING as well as the actress who is ACTUALLY PLAYING THAT CHARACTER to express what her character has gone through on the show, IN CANON and yes, even include some things that “fans’ rather Emma just pretend never happened.
Well guess what – imitating an ostrich does not change the facts. It doesn’t. Emma UNDERSTANDS the past now. She gets it, she’s made peace with that’s how things ended up, and they got back to a good and friendly place for the sake of their son by the time he died. He will always be a part of her and a big part of what shaped who she is as well as an important thread in the fabric of the show, but it DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACTS.
Emma was not interested in going back. She did not crumble to bits and go on some mission to destroy the universe like basically everyone else who has lost their true love has. She TRULY LOVED him when she was a teenager, and things have happened since then and it WOULD be VERY DIFFICULT for someone like Emma to go back to that place after having faced so many betrayals from him REGARDLESS of the reasons behind them.
There’s a popular saying about villains that in their own mind, they’re the heroes. The same is true for anyone no matte WHAT their reasoning is for doing anything, it does not change how it is perceived by someone else.
It makes me sick that she constantly feels the need to explain and say “well yeah maybe if could have gone that way” BUT she made sure to clarify that even and say that she thinks it would have been very very difficult for her to come around to that. As we’ve discussed ad naseum, trust issues don’t just disappear and this person has consistently shown THROUGH HIS ACTIONS that he’s not always there for her 100%.
(I hear people screaming already and I’ve read more than enough similar comments directed at JMO for actually daring to speak the truth but it is what it is. Yes he did some great things too and they were in a good place when he died but they were also in a FRIENDLY place. They were in a FRIENDLY place as well in S2 when he wasn’t pushing for more from her. She was able to forgive and let go of some things to have him in her life but not in a ROMANTIC capacity.)
JMO merely spoke the truth about what happened in canon on the show and what Emma thought of it. It DOES NOT MATTER what anybody ELSE thinks about it because EMMA is the one who had to live through it and only she knows exactly what that did to her and her trust issues.
So many times lately she’s spoken about how great Killian is for her because he’s encouraging her to embrace who she is and become the best version of herself. That’s what Emma needs and I’m sorry but that’s not what Neal ever was for her in present day when they were reunited. It was never going to be that. Otherwise why highlight the number of times he put her down and doubted her? Or didn’t approve of her magic? Was he impressed with her on occasion? Sure. And he had her back when he could when he was right there already. But it’s the choices we make that define who we are and sometimes he didn’t make the choices that were overly supportive and he didn’t put her first when he should have.
Taking Bae out of the mix, and pretending Neal isn’t related to Rumple or FTL or anything like that, and just making him an average guy on the street who did these things to Emma, looking solely at the facts and through her eyes, I don’t see how you can come to any conclusion other than what JMO herself has said about how EMMA feels.
Is it SAD that Neal was hurt she might have moved on with Hook? Is it SAD that he died? ABSOLUTELY. It’s painful to watch anyone be hurt & not end up with who they thought they would end up with, but if they’re not right for each other, then they’re not right for each other.
I really really resent the fact that almost all interviewers these days feel the need to put “but she thinks neal’s dead / neal is dead now” in front of everything CS and I hope that garbage stops soon. It’s bad enough the actors now feel the need to talk about things that are over and done with and WERE handled blatantly on the show just because people refuse to believe anything they say.
I just want them to be able to talk about what is ACTUALLY HAPPENING in canon and not in the fans minds at this point. It was a tragic loss but it didn’t ultimately affect the outcome of Emma’s love life. With or without Neal in the picture, Emma was always drawn to Hook. With or without Neal in the picture, Emma was ready to move on from Neal. With or without Neal in the picture, Emma was ready to let Killian in.
As I stated earlier, she gave up EVERYTHING to make sure that Killian’s life was saved. The beyond obvious parallels to Snowing throughout the ENTIRE CaptainSwan story should have been a huge neon sign (along with the anti-parallels of Neal/Emma & Rumple/Milah).
I’m SORRY that people are hurting they were wrong & didn’t get their way, but that is NO REASON to attack the actors. I can’t even begin to fathom how some of them are still on twitter at this point. It’s disgusting. They owe us NOTHING. They are doing their jobs and their jobs including knowing what is going on in the minds of their characters and whether you believe it or not, what JMO said was TRUE and what actually happened ON THE SHOW and makes perfect, logical sense given what we’ve seen. It truly baffles me that people are hating on her for this other than annoyed she mentions him at all which is 99% of the time the interviewers fault in the first place.
Seriously, BLAME THEM for constantly bringing up the past and making it seem like it’s the reason when it’s not. I’m sure she’d be more than happy to talk about how HAPPY she is that Emma FINALLY has someone in her life who is so supportive of her and believes in her and puts her first and would rather focus on THAT than rehashing the same stuff about how wrong for her a certain someone else was. Back in the day he wasn’t wrong for her (other than legally), but that’s not who she is now and she has EVERY RIGHT IN THE WORLD to feel betrayed by him regardless of the reasoning. ALL of S3 was showcasing that more & more and people still refuse to believe that Emma might have felt the way she did. So just attack JMO instead for being honest and trying to put it to rest once and for all. That makes sense.
I don’t know how much more obvious she could have been while simultaneously being diplomatic. I HATE with a firey passion the fact that she feels the need to pander though. She’d get attacked more if she were blunt like I’d want to be. Her long response was very well put that she isn’t writing the show and she misses working with MRJ etc, but that doesn’t change what has actually happened on the show. These are things her character has ACTUALLY gone through. WE as an audience have the benefit of seeing all the puzzle pieces and looking at it from different angles and seeing how it affected other characters and wishing that so and so would just see how much such and such is hurting for having screwed up and give them another chance. I have a lot of ships like that! I totally get it. But it doesn’t mean that Emma OWES anybody anything and JMO sure doesn’t either.
I. FEEL. SICK. (and don’t get me started on the letter to the writers so help me I want to throw things. How dare anybody tell a writer what their story is or isn’t. You can interpret it any way you like but to be so emotionally abusive toward them and throw in so many inaccuracies about what has actually happened is absurd. Think and feel however you want and express it in a calm and rational manner if you must tell them how you feel but this fandom makes me feel that being a part of a fandom is some kind of disease.)
And WE’RE supposed to be the delusional ones? If following canon and learning to go with whatever actually happens is delusional then sign me up but I think people use that word a bit too often and clearly have no idea what it means – or when it might apply to them.
I have never been so appalled in my life. No wonder not many writers interact on a regular basis on twitter. I can only imagine THEIR timelines (Adam’s is bad enough). Makes total sense to me now. I really want to publish and use a pseudy-nym anyway but I’m almost afraid of setting up any online presence just because I don’t really want to see what *some* “fans” think. There will always be those rational few who are upset and with good reason and it’s a perfectly valid criticism held by many many people (I think most of us around here can agree about Little Women at least?) but I’m sick of the fans being attacked for being right, or shipping what’s canon, and I understand Adam getting it to a degree because he is the one making the decisions (along with Eddy of course but he wisely stays away from twitter), but to see the ACTORS getting hated on? Seriously?
I think Sean has the best attitude about it out of anybody but it astounds me that people actually send hate to actors for being (or in today’s case not being) in a certain relationship. They’re doing their JOBS. Every character is important and serves a purpose and it is beyond annoying to not only demand to go against canon but be downright rude & verbally abusive to the actors just trying to work with what they’ve been given. I’m sorry if people don’t love the way they all look or act or that they’re involved in something that some fans don’t approve of. It’s like the people who harrassed Sean’s wife for supporting her husband and his CANON RELATIONSHIP with Regina. People blasted her for supporting the ship HER HUSBAND IS ACTUALLY IN. Like…seriously? But he has the best attitude.
Sadly sarcasm doesn’t come through the internet very well so people like Sean and Adam who fight back with sass just “offend” people even more. I long for the days when people weren’t so offended. I really do. I can’t remember a time when this much fuss was made about anything so I guess I’ve been lucky and able to block a LOT of it out over the years. We live in a time where people will hate on absolutely ANYTHING and the mob mentality of the internet is astounding. If you look hard enough for faults you will ALWAYS find them. Maybe look for something more productive to do instead of harassing actors for the show not going your way and if you hate it that much? Maybe find something else to watch. Hate-watching is poisonous and just infects the rest of the fandom. So sick of it. And this? This is why I’ve stayed away so much. Unbelievable. Makes me really really disgusted that as a Oncer I’m lumped in with some horrible people.
And to think Jen is in Monte Carlo PROMOTING THE SHOW and being so sweet and doing interviews and having a great time only to come back to hateful messages from the “fans” that she has been so complimentary of. Unbelievable.
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
Just having seen bits of that “letter” before is what prompted my last post about the sickening things being said, but I decided not to read the whole thing right then since I was leaving to go out to dinner and didn’t want that on my mind. So right now I just took a deep breath and read it.
That writer is a crazy person. I mean…not only are there blatant lies about the show/characters themselves (I’m pretty sure no one has “killed…tortured, and mutilated children” on this show. It’s a PG-rated show on ABC, not Game of Thrones. And OUAT’s Hook–their version, not the one from the original book–hasn’t actually done many bad things, especially when compared to Rumpel and Regina) and the vicious language (which is certainly bad enough), but there’s also the suggestions of violence. I’m not exaggerating when I say I very much hope that this person gets some sort of therapy, and soon.
On a lighter note, that story that Jenna_B posted is really cute. Thanks for sharing! Overall I’m just really glad to have this little bubble of sanity. 🙂
They aren’t fans. They are classless, reality impaired, toxic killjoys. Vulgarian blowhards.
No more sympathy. No more respect.
***Always in search of a good flock***
On a lighter note, that story that Jenna_B posted is really cute. Thanks for sharing! Overall I’m just really glad to have this little bubble of sanity.
I agree. Reading about that fan encounter made me really happy admist all the hate going on
If that doesn’t say everything RIGHT THERE I don’t know what does. Truly. She let Neal die for the greater good but KNOWING she needed her magic and KNOWING she would lose it, she didn’t let Killian die. Instead she BLATANTLY paralleled to MM begging David “Come back to me” because she COULD NOT LOSE HIM
Exactly
Simply put, the writer of that crass, vulgar and foul *letter* that was posted in its entirety (but significantly/hypocritically NOT edited for *language*) on another thread, could stand some professional help. Moronic ignorance is so rampant now in that faction of the fandom that they are an unbalanced, pathetic and borderline dangerous problem. Worthy of being noted and flagged.
Neal fans who support that kind of ranting and ugliness, are, by association, equally as classless, graceless and foul.
You got it!
Ok, I feel like we need some goodness, so I’m going to post this here in our haven. Because it’s so stinking cute I love it. And we need some stinking cuteness right now. I think the last bit’s my favorite – hahaha
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Operation Find Colin…a success!
No, that’s not Photoshop, people. That really is me and Colin. I actually met him. In person. Damn near swooned. Literally. I don’t think my heart has slowed down properly since. Here is the tale (where I come out mostly lame IMO, LOL):
I got home from work to an askbox filled with messages: COLIN’S IN EAST NASHVILLE. GO. You know who you are. And seriously, East Nashville’s a big place. But the Colin tag to the rescue! So I figured out which bar in East Nashville and hopped in my car and drove over there.
There were a bunch of trucks and vans outside, so I figured I must be in the right place! So I stood across the street for a while, like an HOUR while, not wanting to interrupt their filming or crew or anything. (Like I said, lame. I normally don’t have the balls to even do something like this but it’s BLOODY COLIN O’DONOGHUE. I had to at least try.)
Anyway, eventually one of the crew guys, Kevin, saw me and waved. I ran across the street and said that I didn’t want to bother them, but I wondered if I could say hello to Colin. I explained that I was just a normal (HA!) fan, and after I spoke to him I’d be gone and out of their hair. So Kevin (he really was the best!) went and spoke to the producers and came back and said that they had just started rolling but as soon as they had a break, he’d get Colin for me. Then he came back like twice more to let me know he hadn’t forgotten me, to just sit tight.
So I waited. Another crew guy let me back onto the patio where some other crew were just hanging out while they were rolling inside. And I waited some more.
Then the side door opens and there’s my new friend Kevin with Colin in tow. As soon as I saw him, my first words were “OH MY GOD.” Like you are not prepared for Colin in person. You think you are, but NOPE. He smiled that silly grin at me and…thank god, I was leaning against the wall cause I’m pretty sure they would have been scraping me off the pavement.
So Colin comes over holds out his hand (which I shook, good handshake on that man, like anyone is surprised) and says “Hi, I’m Colin.” LIKE i DON’T KNOW WHO YOU ARE, YOU PRECIOUS BB. And no, you’re not ready for the accent either. Jesus, Mary and Joseph. I managed to tell him my name and that it was so nice of him to come out. And he said, “Did you want a picture?” My yes may or may not have been a bit too loud. Sorry Colin. Anyway, I pulled out my phone (that has my Captain Swan case on it!) and handed it to Kevin, who took THREE pics of us. The above is the best one, although they are all amazing.
I asked him how he liked Nashville so far and he said it was really nice, but he hadn’t seen a lot of it yet since they were so busy. I managed to babble about my move here ten years ago and how much I loved it here and if he got the chance he should see more of it. And he said he’d try. (with that damn grin again, please stop, Colin)
He said it was nice to meet me and I thanked him (and Kevin!), shook his hand AGAIN, waved and headed on my way. Shaking all the way to my car. I’m pretty sure my heart hasn’t recovered yet. HOLY SHIT I JUST MET COLIN O’DONOGHUE.
A few other things: he smells good. Like really good. Those worried for some reason about scruff: DON’T WORRY. I could already see it growing back in and he probably shaved this morning. Relax. Two days tops and the Hook scruff is back.
LOL! That is AWESOME! What a lucky lady! 😀
http://i-love-you-swan.tumblr.com/post/88310254884/so-i-just-wanted-to-talk-about-these-scenes-for-aAKA Captain Eala – how I miss her gifsets and freakouts and dyings! It’s not the same on tumblr. No one else is allowed to defect the forums. GOT IT?!
I wonder if we could do the cyber version of kidnapping to drag her back here :p I’ve been slack in my gif sets & graphics because, well it’s winter here & we’ve already had 1 massive flash flood rip through the place…. & I’m to darn lazy to scour the internet to look for them atm 😛
Regarding the hate/ bashing JMo is getting about her interview— I’m so sick of these haters & weirdo’s. These people need to get their heads outta their backsides TBH.
Neal is a FICTIONAL character- he is NOT real, Emma is also FICTIONAL, NOT real- it’s getting to the point where you really have to wonder how old these people are or if there is actually something seriously wrong with them to be taking what happens to FICTIONAL characters on a fantasy, drama, TV show, so flip’n personally – to the point where they are essentially demanding that the actors, creators & other fans, treat fiction as reality.
None of the actors should be having to ‘defend’ their personal opinions about their own characters- It is the ACTORS, whom portray the characters- Not fans of the show, so it is the ACTORS whom know what & how the characters THEY portray think & feel about the events that go down on show! Septic, childish fans need to get a grip, quit whining & being spiteful that the show didnt go in the direction they Wanted it to go!
Bottom line is, we can be passionate about & invested in the show, but No One, NO ONE should be lashing out at the actors or creators over it. Ie. I dont criticise Emma or JMo for feeling that Neal was justified & forgiven for sending Emma to jail (personally I dont think his reasoning was good enough, nor that Emma would/should have forgiven him for it)- but that is the direction A&E decided to have that character take, so I deal with it- it’s all fictional, so why bother getting offended over it! This is A&E’s story to tell not ours, we as fans can either choose to go along for the ride or not, no one is forcing anyone to watch the show after all.
Some supposed “fans” seriously need to grow up, take a chill pill & get back in touch with reality IMO. It isnt healthy to be still be banging on about & lashing out at others over a fictional character’s death, esp months after the fact.
At the end of the day instead of bashing JMo for having an opinion on how the character SHE portray’s feels & thinks, maybe these septic losers might want to stop & think about the fact that JMo is there doing interviews & fan interactions for US, the FANS of the show.
She is NOT doing herself a favor by flying (which she doesnt even enjoy in the 1st place) all over the place for these things, she isnt doing herself a favor by taking time out of her life to do fan interactions (like telling her staff, who are telling her she has to leave now, ‘just a moment’, so she can interact with a few more screaming/begging fans) or interviews (which are all to feed our need for more info etc.)- These things are done for Us, the Fans- not her.Why dont the whinge bags, suck it up & try thanking her for flying there, so she could do these interviews for US to read & so people can have their fan interactions
(despite going through the stress & scare of losing her luggage). Or I dont know, thank her for filming in Canadian winters, when the temp is 0degrees & she’s sick. Better yet, why dont they thank her for STILL continuing to be willing to do interviews & fan interactions despite the intense crap they’ve thrown at cast & creators recently!
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