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May 23, 2013 at 3:27 am #195770surayyaParticipant
Exactly right with the slow burning candle – I got Hooked on Castle & it took those 2,4 seasons to FINALLY give in to their feelings for each other- funny thing is, the lead female is a sharp shooter, get the job done, strong, but damaged type, the main lead male is kind of a ‘charming’, ‘player’, millionaire type, that has been burnt love wise in the past, yet doesn’t hold back on what he wants…until he meets the main lead female 😉 Sounds kind of similar does it not lol 😉
Those 2 have had to deal with ex wives & lovers, each other dating before they got together, the guys kid etc & it’s been a blast, that includes them working on their issues & problemsafter hooking up– it was totally worth the wait.I think we all agree SF has to happen at some point, if for nothing else, than closure.
I can also see Hook falling off the ‘good’ wagon like the other bads- I just hope it isn’t every couple of eps like they did with Regina (that gets kinda old after a while) & it’d be nice to have a bad guy do something different like actually continue trying to change, but ends up doing the wrong thing for the right reasons (I think that’s why I started watching the mentalist- the lead male Jane, is a ‘good guy’- but boy does he do some ‘wrong’ stuff for the right reasons! It’s very interesting tbh & a nice change from the norm), it’d make a nice counter part to Rumples right stuff for the wrong reasons 😉
I like the idea of him backing off when Neal shows up, then being all conflicted about backing off, as he’s the type to ‘fight for what he wants’ & that stirring things up. It’d also be nice for Emma to be the one to make the move in the end I think too.[adrotate group="5"]May 23, 2013 at 3:29 am #195771surayyaParticipant@obisgirl wrote:
Two new Captain Swan parallels tonight!!
Killian pleading with Bae / Emma and Henry in Apple as Red as Blood pleading.
Emma and Hook first meeting / Killian and Milah first meeting.
Also, I think if I don’t make any more edits to my CS nc-17 story, I may post on Friday at my ao3.org profile.
Awesome catches! when you see them side by side like that, the parallel is so clear!
May 23, 2013 at 3:32 am #195772surayyaParticipant@obisgirl wrote:
Then again, I’m not sure Hook would step aside after baelfire comes back. B/c remember, he said to Rumpelstiltskin:
A man who doesn’t fight for what he wants, deserves what he gets.
and when has Baelfire ever fought for Emma? Not once. Neal didn’t even make an effort to reunite with her.
Yeah, that’s kind of what I mean by doing the wrong thing for the right reasons- he steps back & lets Bae & Emma be together, but then he gets conflicted as he always fights for what he wants & Bae doesn’t = Rocks the boat, as sparks fly from all directions- Charmings, Rumple, Regina, CS, SF & Henry over it.
May 23, 2013 at 3:32 am #195773jasminegirl84Participant@obisgirl wrote:
Then again, I’m not sure Hook would step aside after baelfire comes back. B/c remember, he said to Rumpelstiltskin:
A man who doesn’t fight for what he wants, deserves what he gets.
and when has Baelfire ever fought for Emma? Not once. Neal didn’t even make an effort to reunite with her.
Hmm…he did say that, but I feel that Hook has a softer side for Bae, especially after the guilt he still has for letting the Lost Boys take him. He may not completely step aside, but I feel he would also be conflicted in the situation.
Neal has not fought for Emma, but Hook may just think twice before pursuing Emma, at the least, regardless of what his actions might be after that.
@Surayya wrote:
It didn’t seem like Hook’s style to completely cower from Peter Pan. I think in terms of Emma, his experience will help guide her to get Henry. Her cause could end up being his cause.
No, he did not show any intimidation after the Lost Boy talked about PP ripping people’s shadows out of their bodies if they lie to him. He rather found it amusing at his attempt to intimidate him with that threat. But, we can not say for certain if his feelings changed after visiting NL. The look on his face after he saw NL on the globe, realizing Henry was there was filled with dread and fear.
Regardless if he fears him or not, Hook does not go down without a few swings.
@Surayya wrote:
I like the idea of him backing off when Neal shows up, then being all conflicted about backing off, as he’s the type to ‘fight for what he wants’ & that stirring things up. It’d also be nice for Emma to be the one to make the move in the end I think too.
Hook will be a patient man, in this case. I don’t think he wants to push so hard that he ends up pushing her in the wrong direction. I would like Emma to make the move because she will show that she finally opened herself completely to him. Then, the ball can finally start to roll and rumble! Hook has never been shy in showing affection or uttering innuendos, so it’s more for Emma to take charge.
And glad that you share my liking for the slow burning candle! That is why I like Bones and Booth relationship in “Bones” if you have ever seen the series. Or Mulder and Scully!
Obis,love the parallels…down to the same cup that he drinks from. That is not just a coincidence.
Keeper of: Hook's eyebrow action, Emma's eye-rolls, David's sarcasm, Snow's "She's kind of out of town" to Tiny, and Rumple's "Not telling."
May 23, 2013 at 3:36 am #195774obisgirlParticipant@Jasminegirl84 wrote:
Hook will be a patient man, in this case. I don’t think he wants to push so hard that he ends up pushing her in the wrong direction. I would like Emma to make the move because she will show that she finally opened herself completely to him. Then, the ball can finally start to roll and rumble! Hook has never been shy in showing affection or uttering innuendos, so it’s more for Emma to take charge.
I would like it too if Emma made the first move; even her thanking him for helping and then it turns into something much more intimate than expected. I would also like it if Hook gave her a little push because sometimes, there needs to be a little push. And then Emma follows up 😉 😆
May 23, 2013 at 3:39 am #195778surayyaParticipantYes I love Bones too- This season finale had me actually say Aww No! when it ended (Castle was the same- I was like ” Oh no you didn’t just end there!- there has to be another ep?!?! lol)
LOL, agreed Obisgirl 🙂
May 23, 2013 at 3:51 am #195781MysteryKat25ParticipantAwesome catches! Every little parallel helps (and you CANNOT tell me these things are done this way for a reason!)
I can see Hook being torn and maybe at first being willing to kinda take a backseat and let Neal have the upper hand for a very very short amount of time and then Neal will make a comment or start a fight for no reason and then Hook will stand up and do what he wants which is to fight for Emma. Hook knows how he would feel should Milah be able to come back to him (which obviously can’t happen but Emma gets that chance with Neal since she thought he was dead…) and with his connection to Bae he’ll feel guilty for a bit but then be right back in Hook mode the moment Neal doesn’t play nice.
Hook showed us in the finale that he was willing to set aside something that is HUGE to him in order to give Bae a good life and Bae threw it in his face and so he went back to his old ways. I imagine it coming down to “if it’s a fight you want, it’s a fight you’re going to get” and then focus on wooing Emma later on. His quote needs to / has to count for something and while I see him definitely being torn I don’t think he’s going to just pick up and leave town either.
I agree that SF need to deal with their issues first though. I’m all for Emma & Hook getting close while they’re on their adventures in Neverland right now, but in order for it to be “real” for CaptainSwan, SwanFire need to prove that they’re no good together now. Emma HAS to make a choice, not just go for whoever is left standing.
I’m kinda waiting for her quotes from The Price of Gold to come back into play. Everybody has been telling her how to run her life, making decisions for her, manipulating where she ends up etc etc. Her speech to Ashley about doing what she wants instead of what everybody else wants could potentially be huge for CaptainSwan, especially if the rest of her family starts pushing her toward Neal and she wants to pick Hook. We know who Henry will want, Snowing aren’t going to be super happy etc etc, but ultimately it’s up to Emma because it’s her life.
I haven’t started my series rewatch yet but I’m definitely going to be on the lookout for quotes like that as there were TONS in season 1 of what kind of person she is, wants to be, and doesn’t want to be from the past (as well as her comments about Neal etc etc) and I really think there’s a LOT more we haven’t even thought of yet (ie: like those parallels that were just linked here showing just how similar the introduction scenes are for Hook / Milah, Hook / Emma.
So happy to see we’re over 100 pages now! We may be a fairly small group but we’ve been consistently defending / promoting / discussing our pairing from the start and the more we add to it, the more that is cemented in my mind that we have a really strong chance at being correct!
Totally agree on the Castle stuff as well!
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
May 23, 2013 at 3:53 am #195782jasminegirl84Participant@obisgirl wrote:
@Jasminegirl84 wrote:
Hook will be a patient man, in this case. I don’t think he wants to push so hard that he ends up pushing her in the wrong direction. I would like Emma to make the move because she will show that she finally opened herself completely to him. Then, the ball can finally start to roll and rumble! Hook has never been shy in showing affection or uttering innuendos, so it’s more for Emma to take charge.
I would like it too if Emma made the first move; even her thanking him for helping and then it turns into something much more intimate than expected. I would also like it if Hook gave her a little push because sometimes, there needs to be a little push. And then Emma follows up 😉 😆
Ooooh, even better scenario. I like that. I like that A LOT. Hook does like to push Emma’s buttons. Can Emma just fall on Hook while they are going through the portal? She is conveniently right behind him. It is also rather strange that she would pick that fixture to hold on to, seeing that everyone else is holding onto some type of rope. It would be rather difficult to hold on to, like she is at the moment. Plus, there have been way too many fanfics that have posited that scenario. The fangirl in me is wishing for this to happen. Badly.
Surayya, I have not seen the season finale for Bones yet! I still need to catch up on this season! Can’t wait to watch it though!
@MysteryKat wrote:
I haven’t started my series rewatch yet but I’m definitely going to be on the lookout for quotes like that as there were TONS in season 1 of what kind of person she is, wants to be, and doesn’t want to be from the past (as well as her comments about Neal etc etc) and I really think there’s a LOT more we haven’t even thought of yet (ie: like those parallels that were just linked here showing just how similar the introduction scenes are for Hook / Milah, Hook / Emma.
Yeah I want to rewatch it again from beginning to end to get a better grasp of OUAT in general and fill in any gaps I have in my memory and understanding of the show.
Keeper of: Hook's eyebrow action, Emma's eye-rolls, David's sarcasm, Snow's "She's kind of out of town" to Tiny, and Rumple's "Not telling."
May 23, 2013 at 3:57 am #195783jasminegirl84ParticipantOh, and why do I get hot and bothered watching Hook throw the bean in the water? I think because he is taking charge and doing something that is his specialty. Dam*, that Hook and what he does to us. 👿
Keeper of: Hook's eyebrow action, Emma's eye-rolls, David's sarcasm, Snow's "She's kind of out of town" to Tiny, and Rumple's "Not telling."
May 23, 2013 at 4:04 am #195785surayyaParticipantlol- think you mean me Jasmine (I mentioned season finale of Bones & you quoted me as glitter with Emma making the 1st move on Killian too 😉 )
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