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January 28, 2014 at 1:15 am #241126
Killian Jones
ParticipantShe claims she doesn’t but she does it. She instigates things all the time and then claims she was attacked. Look what happened to Hookian.
Hookain and her clashed a lot but only Hookian got banned. I think that’s kind of weird. I will however let it go because if RG says she takes care of it than she does. Anyways on to spoilers, I posted the tumblr post on the 3×17 page. I think it’s a very plausible theory.
No, no you got her all wrong she’s just stating her opinion and she says no offense afterwards to make sure we’re on good terms. No worries 😉
I like the theory I don’t see it as shippy, it just makes sense one centric paralleled one relationship entirely possible that the second would parallel another
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January 28, 2014 at 1:17 am #241127awoovo
Participantawoovo wrote: She claims she doesn’t but she does it. She instigates things all the time and then claims she was attacked. Look what happened to Hookian.
Hookain and her clashed a lot but only Hookian got banned. I think that’s kind of weird. I will however let it go because if RG says she takes care of it than she does. Anyways on to spoilers, I posted the tumblr post on the 3×17 page. I think it’s a very plausible theory.
No, no you got her all wrong she’s just stating her opinion and she says no offense afterwards to make sure we’re on good terms. No worries
I like the theory I don’t see it as shippy, it just makes sense one centric paralleled one relationship entirely possible that the second would parallel another Mhmm that’s my thought as well. Shippy stuff aside, I would love some Hook/Henry dynamic.
January 28, 2014 at 2:12 am #241128sweetgrass
ParticipantHey everyone
Did you know that Warner Bros is doing a movie of Pan with Blackbeard as the villain and a young attractive Hook as the good guy. Here is the link
Guess who will be watching.
Keeper of Hook and Emma's smoldering first kiss, a certain Pirate's sauciness, the Evil Queen's snarkiness, Grumpy's gruffness and a drop of true love to make it all go down smooth.
January 28, 2014 at 2:14 am #241129Killian Jones
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January 28, 2014 at 2:17 am #241130Killian Jones
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January 28, 2014 at 2:18 am #241131sweetgrass
ParticipantI love Hook. He is my favorite character, but I refuse to let myself get worked up by any spoiler. The thing is at best I only see OUAT lasting one more season. It is not worth getting upset. The die is already cast. So I am along for the ride.
Keeper of Hook and Emma's smoldering first kiss, a certain Pirate's sauciness, the Evil Queen's snarkiness, Grumpy's gruffness and a drop of true love to make it all go down smooth.
January 28, 2014 at 2:19 am #241132awoovo
ParticipantI love Hook. He is my favorite character, but I refuse to let myself get worked up by any spoiler. The thing is at best I only see OUAT lasting one more season. It is not worth getting upset. The die is already cast. So I am along for the ride.
I would not fret our favorite pirate is not gonna die. 🙂
January 28, 2014 at 4:46 am #241134surayya
ParticipantI wonder why they are even killing off a main character anyway? I know there was speculation it was over a cast member wanting off the show, but wasnt that disproven in an interview or something? Also (sorry if someone has said his already), actors work on contracts- so they wouldn’t want to kill off a character contracted to work past the event, as they’d still have to pay said actor until their contract was up, would they not? (although I guess if they’ve filmed the scene that shall not be named [why does typing that seem like less effort than spoiler tags lol], it is entirely possible everyone will continue on as normal until next season).
Another thing, I am wondering if the ‘event’ might not happen before the last few eps, but only because, wont we find out who’s contracts have been renewed for S4 & in what capacity (if S4 happens)? Or do you think they’ll wait until S4 confirmation before ‘official’ who & in what form announcements are made?
I’m not sure this move is an overly smart move tbh- yes beloved minor characters can be killed off to have an impact & up the stakes, but a main character? That’s going to devastate a massive portion of the fan base & we arent (I hope) even in the last season of the show, hence ratings are kind of required to ensure another season. I’m wondering if this move will make or break the show, whom ever they kill (I know my beloved NCIS hasnt been what it used to be since Cote left the show- it’s lost it spark IMO & become quite dull 🙁 So I hope that doesnt happen to Once) – it is a ballsy move for A&E to make either way, thats for sure! :/
January 28, 2014 at 6:41 am #241136sakuragi_miu
ParticipantI usually don’t like to come here as this forum is way too biased for my taste. It makes me feel as SF is the big ship of the series and just makes me think negatively of my ship. I mean, I was so happy to get a Hook-centric and now everyone’s saying that Hook will bite the dust at the end of this episode… even neutral fans who thought mainly Neal would die, are now thinking “wait, if we have a Hook-centric now with a pirate flashback in the middle of the WW arc, and he’s 1 of the big possibilites to die… we have our answer!”. I know we’ll have other centrics in 3B, but the timing of the release of the spoiler just gives me a bad vibe.
I guess we’ll never know until we get filming pics of 3.18. Unless, as some people are speculating, the death happens in the season finale and then anything could happen.
For me, marketing wise, his death doesn’t make any sense. RC and Lana are the big actors that atract most of the viewers, but let’s be sincere, eye candy does too. Look at the backlash of the Graham death… would they be willing to repeat this situation?! On the other hand, Neal dying would be a rehash of 2.22 because “we’ve been through this already and we’ve seen the reactions of all the characters to his death”.
I also see arguments that they’re only promoting Hook a lot to create hype for the death. Well, for me that would be backlash instead of good buzz for the series. And I’m not even being biased with this opinion. While Neal dying would create less backlash from the fandom but more consequences for the storyline. Hook is the other way around and it would be devastating for the fandom + ratings.
“Believe that a pirate can be a hero”… I’m holding on to the hope that to be a hero does not mean a hero’s death. The fact that they never gave him new clothes does sound alarming to me, after all. Storywise his death makes sense, but I wonder if ABC would stop them from doing it, no matter how much Adam claims that “we’re doing what we always wanted, no influences etc”. After all, we know ABC influenced them on keeping Charming alive and bringing in more Belle.
What do you think about the fact that MRJ was directly pitched by A&E while Hook they had to held a casting session?
January 28, 2014 at 7:54 am #241137surayya
ParticipantWhat do you think about the fact that MRJ was directly pitched by A&E while Hook they had to held a casting session?
This means little to me- because they had seriously re-thought who Henry’s dad would be, when pretty much the entire fan based had guessed who Henry’s father was as soon as Bae went through the portal.
Also if they are pressuring them- Hook is totally safe then- he’s the one bringing in the lions share of ratings at the moment (I know of 9 people who have started watching the show because of Hook this season) & if he brings in the viewers, then he is what is lining their pockets, so he wont go anywhere 😉 It’s no mistake that Good Form had the highest ratings.
IMO, The only main they could drop & still cleave to their original story line, is Belle- because she wasnt meant to be in the main story like she is, they adjusted their original story to fit her in- Bae is supposed to be Rumples Happy Ever After. So I guess her death wont technically change their end game out come, if that makes sense.
Hook on the other hand was meant to be in the story since S1, but they couldnt get the rights to PP or something, so they had to but him off until S2- Hook was meant to be in Emma’s life from S1 & if you think about it, if he had been in S1, then the “love triangle” still would have happened anyway when Neal came into the picture, Snowing disapproval of the ‘pirate’ flirting with their daughter would still have happened- so A&E just sort of course corrected their story to work with what they were able to do at the time- at least thats what I assume from the little snipits of info they’ve given about it all- I could be way off though lol.
Hook does not need to die to be redeemed or a hero- is everyone saying Regina & Rumple will also have to die & stay dead to be redeemed or heros? Nope.
1) Hook gave up 300yrs of revenge/vengeance for the murder of his lover- ALL for the sake of person who he might have feelings for, son. He let the murder of his lover & the man who maimed him onto & into his home, the same place this person murdered his lover & maimed him- just so Emma could try to get her child back- but thats not considered heroic?
2) Hook cut through a plant that not only could have killed him, but one that did kill his brother, KNOWING that the only cure = staying on NL (aka Hook’s personal hell) forever, all to save a man whom had done nothing but be condescending, rude, degrading & judgmental towards him, because he didnt want his daughter (someone he cared for) to lose her father (someone she loves)- how is that not considered heroic?
Thats not even including all the examples- like him sailing back to SB, not knowing for sure IF he was sailing to his death or not- saying he’s not already a hero or redeeming himself is just crazy/skewed logic IMO!
Does Neal need to die in order to put right the wrong of his abandonment of Emma or be a hero? (I wont list the all the bad stuff he’s done as it’ll just stir up any SF’s reading this- we all know what Neal’s crimes, storyline wise are…) No, he doesnt- that’s a stupid reason to throw around IMO.
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