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March 24, 2014 at 10:11 am #255170
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ParticipantWow. So okay CS moment aside that episode felt like filler to me. Emma looked beautiful in the opening dream/nightmare sequence and I did like the daddy/daughter moment even if it wasn’t real. I also liked that there was at least some discussion/concern over the fact that they left Emma again (even though it was obviously not by choice). I didn’t like how nonchalant they seemed in the first episode of 3B. The episode creeped me out, especially the way the hooded “fear” figure moved. Didn’t see that twist coming as to who was under the hood.
I liked the Charming = Cowardly Lion theory since she took his symbol of courage. Looking at the promo I personally think Belle is the Scarecrow since she is smart and it looked like Hook was protecting her in the shop (ironic) and Neal is the Tin Man since it looked like he was grabbing at his chest in pain
As to the CS moment /swoon. I loved how he got in her personal space and she didn’t back away. I can see why Hook is glad to see that her heart is still “working” because sometimes it seems like Emma has a heart of stone. Perhaps it is because she is telling herself that he is a pirate, he is just like every other man, etc., but sometimes I think Emma can be kind of mean to Hook. His face after she walked away 🙁 She just seems a little insensitive to his feelings I guess. Maybe that is just me being oversensitive lol. Despite my grumblings I think the moment was really good for CS. Following the theme of hope I think it gave Hook hope that it is actually possible to win her heart so he is going to keep at it. I also think that despite what Emma shows on the outside, inwardly she is all aflutter and that is why she has to keep walking away.
Personally I am glad he didn’t give up what he did that last year though I am curious haha. I am also surprised that not only did she not push for him to tell her but she herself confided her feelings regarding Walsh. I think Hook spent his time trying to find a way back to Emma and possibly even gave up his ship as a way to get back to her, which would be super romantic.
Assuming Neal is the one that dies it will be interesting to see how Emma reacts to that. Does she push Hook away or does she let her walls down for Hook? I guess it is also possible it does nothing in terms of CS since Neal isn’t the one preventing CS from happening. I feel like something has to happen though to get from now to the point where Hook is the one watching over Henry by himself.
[adrotate group="5"]March 24, 2014 at 11:28 am #255193Arianne Grace
ParticipantSo I was kinda hoping rapunzel would be like princess Fiona from shrek where she would change into an ogre or something but the facing your fears thing was nice too. It makes sense alot of people spend there whole life trap in there fears and insecurities and they never actually live just exist.. I was really starting to like snow again this half of the season but she’s driving me crazy with being friends with the midwife. The witch flatters her a little and she is just following along. I’m trying soo hard to cut her some slack but please the woman openly admitted she wasn’t there before they know that it’s someone they are not familiar with so snow invites a stranger into her home.. Ugh…
David was great he gaining a one of my favorites..loved him fighting himself.. All I want is for him, hook and Robin to go to the rabbit hole for a drink once this is all over.. I need more of the three of them… My heart is breaking for Hook.. You can see/feel the hurt.. Colin is a terrific actor.. For a moment I thought they might kiss.. She’s a better woman than I am.. I’d have grabbed him so fast.. Sorry that was probably to much info 🙂
Anyway those are some of my initial thoughtsMarch 24, 2014 at 12:18 pm #255201callmeLola
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http://emmacharmingjones.tumblr.com/post/80526113565/charming-is-worried-about-leaving-hook-and-emmaLittle does Charming know that Hook has been cheating on him with Captain Kirk. Did you guys see the twitter exchange btw Colin, Adam and Shatner? Colin’s such a fanboy.
March 24, 2014 at 12:22 pm #255204March 24, 2014 at 1:00 pm #255220Bo-Peeps
ParticipantIn a nutshell…Hook and Emma are a classic dream team of UST (Unresolved Sexual Tension) for writer’s of episodic TV . The writing technique goes wayyyyyy back in TV shows and fandoms. In this instance, because of the genre of the show Fantasy/Fairy Tales/Magic/Disneyesque Romance/Hope, and because they have telegraphed the progression quite blatantly, I believe it will be resolved sooner rather than later! It is a gigantic magnet for certain types of soulful viewers and A and E know it. They also know that they can’t *play* their viewers with it for too much longer.
Colin, because he was/used to be a fairly unknown quantity in the US before Once, is under-rated as a seriously intense actor. Not anymore. His subtle/facial/eye emoting skills are incredibly high and he has instilled in Hook a deliciously in-depth soul. Perhaps more than the writers could dream he would. Jennifer is also as very good emoting actress who is saddled with a stoic, really stone hearted character whose tragedies don’t let her sunshine show much. That can be very tough to maintain and not become a character who is unsympathetic or even unliked. She balances it, so far, well. Because we are permitted to see *her pain* in little snippets.
If , however, in the face of his staunch devotion, “Emma” doesn’t show some genuine kindness (not attraction, we already know she has that in aces) towards “Hook” soon (UST notwithstanding) she runs the risk of being disliked. Not a good thing for the savior of the story!
As far as Hook goes, the writers hopefully will give her character some emotional fortitude. She has fallen for a lot of men, but none of them for reasons that address her complexities. Here is HER chance for the savior to be saved. If they mishandle it, it will be a huge failure. And shame on them.
Stepping away from too much introspective psychological theories (grin) I think Hook jumped on that horse the moment they got back to go after the woman he realized he loved. His pirate talk was all *talk*. He spent a whole year doing what he had to find Emma, with whatever help he could get, however he could get it, giving up whatever was necessary. The *what he did to get it* is the story he is keeping, temporarily, from Emma. I wouldn’t necessarily trust her with that info either! The current situation has to take a slight backseat (again) to their relationship. But he is determined, and edgily patient and devoted. He let down his walls and found his heart, he is not going to go quietly into the night, now.
(Emma is too damned snippy sometimes for her own good. She brought the whole thing up, she is capable of lying as well, and her meaness, even as a defense mechanism, is wearing mighty thin. (grin) )
Oh, and I thought the whole Rapunzel storyline was empty. David could have faced his fears without her two page script presence. Waste of a good Fairy Tale character. But the nursery dance and fight with his own demons was super for Charming.
Snow, even befuddled and pregnant, showed a freaky ignorance towards Zelena. I hope it is just the hormones!!!
***Always in search of a good flock***
March 24, 2014 at 1:08 pm #255228Bo-Peeps
ParticipantCallmeLola…
That gif strip made my day! Thank you for posting it. Don’t stop 🙂
I did see that exchange with Captain Kirk. HA HA HA!
Gotta love it. Just gotta. I have always had this rather odd, unexplainable fondness for William Shatner, even when I thought he was a total doof.
***Always in search of a good flock***
March 24, 2014 at 1:23 pm #255232killianhookfan
ParticipantAlright, also total foreshadowing with Daddy Charming dancing with Emma in the big ball gown. CS wedding anyone?? Now that we know Charming has this big emotional complex about not being there for Emma and screwing things up with the next one too, I can see where this is heading. No, Daddy Charming had zero opportunity to be a dad to Emma until recently – when he has been giving her advice about things that basically have to do with helping her end up with Hook. So it would be just PERFECT for BOTH Daddy Charming and Emma to have Baby Charming be born and then have Daddy Charming acknowledge that his “Daddy” time with Emma has kind of come and gone EXCEPT for the most important part of all. For Emma she needs her Daddy’s help in realizing the best guy for her is Hook and for Charming he needs to realize that he might not have been there for the things that Snow talked about like her first word and her first step but, even though he has a new baby now, he still has the milestone ahead of him that tends to be the BIGGEST one daddies dream about for their daughters – walking them down the aisle when they get married .
March 24, 2014 at 1:27 pm #255234obisgirl
ParticipantMarch 24, 2014 at 3:25 pm #255245callmeLola
Participantawww @rumplegoldfan, you gave me the feels too! Charming may have missed her dancing at her first ball, but he and Emma dancing at her wedding would be beautiful.
March 24, 2014 at 3:49 pm #255254killianhookfan
ParticipantSo I have a question for you all . . .
I have been convinced all along that Neal is the one who is going to die. But after the absence of the CS hug in 3×12 I am also beginning to believe that A and E are purposely playing us. I know they were NOT happy when the photos of the Pan/Malcolm stabbing were leaked because that gave away their big Pan is Rumple’s father shocker as well as Rumple sacrifices himself shocker. But we also had BTS pics of Regina giving Henry the book that were released as being from last night’s episode. Not to mention tweets that seem to have been purposely tweeted by actors to make it seem like they either are or are not on location filming. Then there’s the whole death in general – for people who don’t like to spoil, A and E certainly announced that death from the rooftops. And filming a funeral out in broad daylight and allowing someone BTS access with pictures??? That wouldn’t be a closed set day?? And now a promo that clearly makes it look obvious that Neal is dying next week. Am I the only one that thinks this seems . . . strange?? I’m not worried for Hook or anything, they have clearly set out to make him a maybe of the ensemble cast aside from just being Emma’s love interest so killing him off makes no sense. But something about the whole death thing next week is starting to feel a bit “off” to me .
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