The Captain Swan thread!

[obisgirl]

Okay, so knowing the title for 3×22 is very timely since I had a new theory last night, involving Emma, TLK and going home.

Obviously, going home, finding what is home on OUAT is a very big theme. It’s up there with ‘hope’. My theory is what if we do end up in Enchanted Forest in the finale but this time for good and then I began to wonder, what would make it a permanent fixture as opposed to a temporary visit like what we’ve seen in the past?

I’m still 100% certain we will get a TLK in the finale but what would make it even more special, is that TLK (between Emma and her True Love aka Killian) is what triggers everyone to travel back to the Enchanted Forest because Emma, the savior and who is the epitome of true love herself, has found true love and in essence, found her real home. And Adam and Eddie have said Emma is someone who’s been looking for home her whole life.

So, I think it would make sense that TLK between Emma and her True Love aka Killian would be powerful enough to send everyone back to the Enchanted Forest. She was raised in our world but her roots will always be back there. Her parents are from there, both of her potential suitors (Neal and Hook) are from there, so Emma was always destined to live out her fairytale happy ending back in the Enchanted Forest.

[emmajones]

Jenna_B wrote:

We were talking about this in the What is Hook Hiding thread. I actually think he gave up the JR to get back to Emma.

So you think it is more that Emma is not emotionally ready to hear that Hook made that sort of sacrifice for her? I could buy into that. Holding his cards until it is the right time to play them. It would fit his character. I took a peek at the What is Hook Hiding thread. I am torn between the CaptainFire theory and the Jolly Roger theory. I think the JR theory is definitely plausible as stated above but I don’t know if that is the whole picture. It still doesn’t answer why the timing perfectly coincided with the curse. I can’t wait to find out

 

Well maybe Hook did something honorable and well, we know our pirate doesn’t like to brag ( like how he doesn’t want Charming to tell the others he saved his life). Maybe it’s a sacrifice he did for Emma and others that he doesn’t want to brag about. That’s what I have been thinking after I watched.

Then someone here ( sorry if I forgot who it was 🙁 ) mentioned about Hook sacrificing JR to find Emma. Hook probably doesn’t want Emma to know that he sacrificed the only home he has known for years just to find her. He’s not the type of person who goes likes to brag about the deeds that he has done. He did have an argument with Charming on Hook being there, risking his life to help them back in Neverland but he only did it because he was pushed.

 

[obisgirl]

I wrote thoughts about this

Another thing he could be hiding is that he just doesn’t want to burden Emma with how much he missed her. Remember, in Ariel, after he confessed his feelings for her, he knew it wasn’t a convenient moment to do so but he had no other choice.  He didn’t want to burden her further with that.  So I can see Hook making the same decision again, because once again, there’s a danger and they need to focus on that.

[emmajones]

I am so sorry but I am a bit sick of the theory saying Hook made a deal. It’s so easy for them to make Hook the bad guy when the story is telling us otherwise.

[obisgirl]

I just don’t pay attention to the haters anymore who think Hook is the villain when he really hasn’t been the villain since the season two finale. This is why I stay away from general threads, since Hook is almost always viewed as the villain when he clearly isn’t anymore.

And I don’t think Charming invites villains to hang out at the castle. Just saying.

[Arianne Grace]

I am so sorry but I am a bit sick of the theory saying Hook made a deal. It’s so easy for them to make Hook the bad guy when the story is telling us otherwise.

I agree, I have been staying away from some of the other threads as well for this reason. To me he is no more a villain than rumple or Regina and if they can be redeemed so can he.
Also, Emma’s getting on my nerves just a little bit, I wish she’d be just a tad nicer to him. I understand being wary because he is hiding something but really you can’t be just a bit nicer and if she angry he didn’t come get her sooner can’t she just say it.

[obisgirl]

I’m not sure Emma would admit something like that.  She tends to be pretty stubborn and remember what Princess Leia was like from the first movie to the time she and Han kissed?  She was pretty stubborn.  She never once wanted to admit that she cared for him but she did.

[killianhookfan]

As far as the title for the finale . . .

I was also pretty sure that was going to be the title but after thinking about it for quite some time I don’t think the episode is going to have anything to do with a physical location.  I think they have been pretty clear that they are trying to show that “home” isn’t a place but is made of the people you love.  So I would be surprised if they suddenly shifted from that central theme in the finale and suddenly made home about a physical location.  I actually think this is going to be the CS wedding episode where Emma GETS the home she always wanted – literally GETS the home, GETS Hook, as in GETS to keep him – he becomes HERS forever.  We might even have the TLK in the same episode.  Although it seems strange to think that they could move that quickly from the TLK to their wedding I can see them doing it.  If you think about the Wizard of Oz movie Dorothy was bound and determined to run away – she goes through all this heavy crap with her new found buddies, kills the WWW, becomes the heroine of Oz, then BOOM realizes that she never should have taken off in the first place and in the next breath is telling Auntie Em there is no place like home.  After ALL THAT she decides that what she was looking for was right in her own backyard.  We JUST had Emma tell Hook that of course she was considering marrying Monkey Man – she was in love.  So if we follow post false memory logic Emma – when Emma realizes she is in love with Hook (who is thankfully human) AND she realizes that he has been her home all along – how long do you think it is going to take her to decide to marry him???  And I’m guessing Emma is gonna figure all that out with a TLK with which Hook can breathe a giant sigh of relief that she DID actually feel the same way he did after all.  And knowing that when Emma was in love with flying monkey she seriously considered marrying it, how long do you think it is going to take Hook to ask her to marry him – considering that he has mentioned Emma’s potential monkey marriage in every episode so far????  Poor Killian has Emma and marriage burned into his brain right now and it doesn’t appear that will be changing any time soon.  As soon as that man sees that Emma loves him and realizes that he is her home, it’s done – he’s proposing to her.

[obisgirl]

I agree @rumplegoldfan 🙂

[killianhookfan]

Sometimes I honestly wonder if we are watching the same show as the haters.  Like people are pointing out – you have to follow the logic of the show.  If something if important to the characters and the show, they will address it – if it isn’t, they won’t.  I feel like we sit in our happy little thread and discuss the stuff that is actually happening on the show – the actual scenes that are being shown on the screen, the actual dialogue that is being spoken.  But then other people start talking about all this other stuff and I am literally like “Where on earth did you get that from???”  They play the CS theme song in the background during Sunday’s CS moment – a key indicator that it was MEANT to be a romantic moment but haters are talking about Hook was just lying to her and he isn’t fooling Emma and he was being so rude to her but she didn’t put up with up with and stood up for herself and walked away.  Huh??  What the heck show were those people watching?????

And I’m so sorry but continuing to talk about how much Emma and Neal love each other and how much of a beautiful relationship they had together in the past??  How much more can this show possibly do to show that Emma has been nothing but emotionally damaged by her relationship with Neal – they have even acknowledged that the only good thing that came out of their past relationship was Henry!!

People keep talking about how Emma is so concerned about Neal and coming up with all of these theories about how they are going to end up together.  I am entirely confused.  I have seen Emma ask where Neal is in a concerned about her baby daddy kind of way but other than that – he doesn’t even appear to cross her mind.  And I have no idea where anyone is getting any kind of theory of Emma and Neal ending up together.  Honestly even if I am shocked beyond belief and they end up killing Hook off this season – I think there is a better chance of Emma ending up with Leroy or Tiny than with Neal.

But I agree, I am completely DONE with all of this “Oh, it’s so obvious Hook is totally working for the WW.”  The people who love Neal talk about how it would be terrible story telling to kill off Neal.  I disagree.  You know what would be bad storytelling – they call it beating a dead horse – let’s have yet ANOTHER guy that Emma thought she could trust turn out to bite her in the butt.  How’s THAT for bad storytelling?  So which of these scenarios makes more sense?  Kill off Neal and NOTHING changes on the show at all – Henry doesn’t even currently realize he has met his father, Emma has already had to deal with his “death” once before and has said she wishes he was dead, we have already closed the Rumple searching for Bae arc.  OR Continue on with the SAME OLD dried up storyline of Emma not bring able to trust any of the men in her life that she gets close to so she continues to refuse to let her walls down.

Uuuggghhhh!!!!

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