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The Captain Swan thread!

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  • April 11, 2014 at 1:53 pm #260822
    PriceofMagic
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    I don’t like the phrase “gave permission” as it implies that Emma can’t make her own decisions and has to wait for the say so of someone else before she makes a decision.

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    April 11, 2014 at 2:00 pm #260823
    obisgirl
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    I read some complaints about that too.  Moving on was something she wanted to do in Ariel but Neal wouldn’t let her. I think what the phrase meant here is that she needed Neal’s blessing to move on, for him to be alright with her doing it. But even then,  I don’t like that either because Emma’s a grown woman and seriously doesn’t need Neal’s permission to move on, but it was still nice to give her that closure before he died.

    April 11, 2014 at 2:32 pm #260827
    killianhookfan
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    I used to be a hospice nurse and the phrase “giving permission” is used a lot when it comes to the dying process.  Family members often have to give permission for a person to die – otherwise they never let go of the feeling that they are needed here to care for the people they are leaving behind which can lead to a long and “lingering” death.  Also people who are dying also feel the need to give the people they are leaving behind permission to do things they think that they will have difficulty doing unless they are specifically told it is okay to do so.  Ex.  Young spouses will often give permission for their spouse to remarry after they die fearing that if they don’t let them know they want them to be happy again they will feel guilty if they find someone they want to move on with.  It really isn’t done as a “control” or can’t think for yourself type of thing at all, but something that is done to bring peace and closure to the relationship of a dying person and the people he or she is leaving behind.  So I actually found the phrase very appropriate, especially given that Neal was “fighting” against Hook for a second chance with Emma and they kept saying that she needed to make a choice.  From that perspective he was telling her that it is okay to move on from what they once had and that he now WANTS her to choose to be with someone else and get what he always wanted to have with her.  He did it so she wouldn’t feel guilty about moving on from him – which is why he made her promise him that she and Henry would be happy.

    April 11, 2014 at 2:38 pm #260829
    obisgirl
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    Thanks @rumplegoldfan

    I love the emphasis on Hook helping.

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    And from New York Comic Con (last year)

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    April 11, 2014 at 6:24 pm #260858
    Jenna_B
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    RGF, you said it well. Especially considering we’re talking about Emma, who, without Neal saying something to that effect, could have used his death as ammunition to push people away. So, I’m ok with that word in this situation.

    Ok, seriously, JMo. I loves you and all, but really, what’s going on with the hair?

    April 11, 2014 at 6:31 pm #260859
    obisgirl
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    Just saw this on my tumblr…

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    David H. Goodman and he also wrote this Sunday’s episode, The Jolly Roger, which we already know from the summary, sounds very similar to the flashbacks from What Happened to Frederick

    April 11, 2014 at 7:39 pm #260874
    surayya
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    Actually, I was not a Spuffy ‘shipper but I do appreciate now everything Spike has gone through for Buffy, and Angel has more personality away from her. As for Emma’s interest, yes, she doesn’t vocalize it but seriously body language says more than dialogue. Take Emma’s eyelashes. Anytime Hook does something surprising or impresses Emma, her eyelashes flutter. It happens every time. I don’t think we’ve seen her do that with anyone else. And the way she leans in her body towards him instead of away, I mean, if the lack of personal space between them bothered Emma, she would say it does and Hook would step back. But she doesn’t. She likes having him close and I don’t think she minds the attention either. JMo gave an interview yesterday about Emma’s relationship with Hook!!!

    Awesome interview- thanks for sharing it!!!! 🙂

    April 11, 2014 at 7:48 pm #260879
    surayya
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    I don’t like the phrase “gave permission” as it implies that Emma can’t make her own decisions and has to wait for the say so of someone else before she makes a decision.

    Agreed! Wont say more as this from @obisgirl 

    I read some complaints about that too. Moving on was something she wanted to do in Ariel but Neal wouldn’t let her. I think what the phrase meant here is that she needed Neal’s blessing to move on, for him to be alright with her doing it. But even then, I don’t like that either because Emma’s a grown woman and seriously doesn’t need Neal’s permission to move on, but it was still nice to give her that closure before he died.

     is pretty much exactly what I’d have said as well lol 🙂

    I used to be a hospice nurse and the phrase “giving permission” is used a lot when it comes to the dying process. Family members often have to give permission for a person to die – otherwise they never let go of the feeling that they are needed here to care for the people they are leaving behind which can lead to a long and “lingering” death. Also people who are dying also feel the need to give the people they are leaving behind permission to do things they think that they will have difficulty doing unless they are specifically told it is okay to do so. Ex. Young spouses will often give permission for their spouse to remarry after they die fearing that if they don’t let them know they want them to be happy again they will feel guilty if they find someone they want to move on with. It really isn’t done as a “control” or can’t think for yourself type of thing at all, but something that is done to bring peace and closure to the relationship of a dying person and the people he or she is leaving behind. So I actually found the phrase very appropriate, especially given that Neal was “fighting” against Hook for a second chance with Emma and they kept saying that she needed to make a choice. From that perspective he was telling her that it is okay to move on from what they once had and that he now WANTS her to choose to be with someone else and get what he always wanted to have with her. He did it so she wouldn’t feel guilty about moving on from him – which is why he made her promise him that she and Henry would be happy.

    Good point there.My mother had to tell my grandfather it was alright to go home to his wife (my grandmother, who had died 50yrs before him), he asked her for a glass of water & had passed away when she got back (he was in hospice with stomach cancer). So I can relate to your point as well.

     

    April 11, 2014 at 7:51 pm #260880
    surayya
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    RGF, you said it well. Especially considering we’re talking about Emma, who, without Neal saying something to that effect, could have used his death as ammunition to push people away. So, I’m ok with that word in this situation. Ok, seriously, JMo. I loves you and all, but really, what’s going on with the hair?

    RGF, you said it well. Especially considering we’re talking about Emma, who, without Neal saying something to that effect, could have used his death as ammunition to push people away. So, I’m ok with that word in this situation. Ok, seriously, JMo. I loves you and all, but really, what’s going on with the hair?

    Another good point, Emma would use it as another reason to not be able to have a HEA & regarding her hair LOL- thats what I thought 😉

    April 11, 2014 at 7:56 pm #260884
    surayya
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    Just saw this on my tumblr… tumblrn3vw2oM7q51tokvybo1500.jpg David H. Goodman and he also wrote this Sunday’s episode, The Jolly Roger, which we already know from the summary, sounds very similar to the flashbacks from What Happened to Frederick

    I was just gonna say that I realised that Hook going on quest to help Ariel get Eric back in JR will parallel Charming going on a quest to help Abigail get Frederick back in What Happened To Fredrick LOL. Gotta love our ship & it’s mega Snowing parallels 😉

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