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April 23, 2014 at 8:12 pm #263369surayyaParticipant
ok – I had been thinking along these lines too, but then realized it might be hard to swing that… how did Neal survive for however long without a heart… didnt the heart need to be destroyed? Was Rumple keeping him alive against the payment for bringing the DO back and also from the heart sacrifice?
I think in the hospital Killian said more to the effect that if Neal/Bae did have a hand in bringing his father back that Killian suspected he would have had to use some dark magic. I think it was more speculation and deductive reasoning than first hand knowledge imo.
Agreed & That is my impression as well.
[adrotate group="5"]April 23, 2014 at 8:15 pm #263370surayyaParticipantThe way I look at it, if Hook was meant to be a long term villain when introduced, then why bother compare and contrast him with Emma’s past relationship with Neal two episodes later?
Agreed- CS was intended to happen from the get go IMO.
April 23, 2014 at 8:16 pm #263372Bo-PeepsParticipantWould Emma count? Even though Hook loves her – she is not yet his. Does possession of said love count? The reason I’m still leaning towards the JR theories are 1. its missing 2. no people are missing. every’s loved ones are still there as far as I can tell. Anyone notice missing people?
Well, you can’t get much more missing than dead (grin). I would say Neal qualifies.
Especially if the magic half of the Neal/Rumple was doing the actual casting. Existing in Rumple’s body, only one heart would be necessary to sustain them. But Neal’s brain still functioned perfectly. The minute he left Rumples physical body, he died. No heart. He, through Rumple, used it to cast the reset curse and send everyone back to Storybrooke (give them a fighting chance against Zelena because Emma could get there, if Hook could get to her in NYC.), and make the ultimate sacrifice for *ahem* the completion of his redemption arc* , thus die a real hero <--- sound vaguely familiar a plot suggestion for ...someone?!! The real irony is dying a hero while using a villlian's body! Emma wouldn't count since Hook didn't cast the curse. BUT, giving up the Jolly Roger is still quite possible in exchange for realm passage to NYC :)[/spoiler] Anyway, just an idea. The others were taxing my brain too much! And thank-you, rumplegoldfan 🙂 It is nice to know my ravings can be understood 😉
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April 23, 2014 at 8:29 pm #263376ellemo78ParticipantThe way I look at it, if Hook was meant to be a long term villain when introduced, then why bother compare and contrast him with Emma’s past relationship with Neal two episodes later?Agreed- CS was intended to happen from the get go IMO.
Well until they realised they liked Colin. 🙂 On the commentary on season 2 one of the writers/producers (can’t think of his name) pretty much said if the actor they got for Hook wasn’t any good they wouldn’t have kept him around – so I think since they found an actor they liked the story arc may have diverted a little. Like A&E saying they woke Charming up early in the pilot b/c they liked Josh so much.
On the Neal thing, at the hospital when Hook said Neal would have done the same thing, I always thought Hook looked a little shifty in that scene. But whether it was him hiding something, or him just being awkward b/c of Emma, I don’t know.
If one is to engage with the primordial forces of darkness, one must expect a little social awkwardness
April 23, 2014 at 8:39 pm #263378surayyaParticipantPeople had mentioned how Hook had done a little pull back when reached for his wrist & that Emma had pulled his arm toward her in response- guess they were right 😉
April 23, 2014 at 8:41 pm #263379surayyaParticipantApril 23, 2014 at 8:45 pm #263380surayyaParticipantApril 23, 2014 at 9:07 pm #263381surayyaParticipantThis is an interesting theory (not sure I buy it though, as a few things are off)
What if we’ve all got this wrong?
What if the curse wasn’t actually a curse but a protection of sorts, to protect the Snowing baby and everyone else from Zelena’s plan? What if they are tied together. kinda like Cinderella, and as long as the curse is around, the baby can’t be born?
Because it’s almost been out right stated at this point that Zelena didn’t cast it.
In fact a curse is completely unnecessary and a hindrance to her plan if you think about it. She could have collected all of that,stuff as easily in EF as she did in Storybrooke. She already had Rumple, in EF Charming was in constant hero mode, and Regina’s heart would have been tricky but do-able. Even the baby would have been easy. Which is why the Storybrooke thing has always confused me, it was unnecessary from Zelena’s POV.
It would also explain why Zelena was so insistent that Emma and Killian kiss. She wants the curse broken so she can get the kid. Remember that Walsh was sent after Emma to keep tabs on her, and to keep her away in general, 7 months before the the curse was cast. It may have taken Zelena a while, hello midwife, to figure out what they’d done and what she needed to do to counter act it. So she decided to go with the status quo and keep Emma away.
Now she wants it broken, but she can’t come out and say that because they think she cast it, and if they knew she wanted it broken; then they’d never actually break it. She she’s manipulating the situation to get them to do what she wants, all while they think they’re doing the opposite.
I wouldn’t be surprised if this week ended with a TLK between Emma and Killian, and then clipped to a shot of Snow going into labor.
(this has been a random thought by nenny)
April 24, 2014 at 7:49 am #263449lumee23ParticipantI like that idea/theory personally and it would make sense if TLK broke both curses at the end of this episode and Snow goes into labor next episode as expected based on pics
April 24, 2014 at 9:08 am #263463killianhookfanParticipantI was just looking on tumblr and a thought came to me. In the scene where Emma comes in and warns Hook about the apples in Regina’s house, do you think Hook was contemplating a sleeping curse for himself while looking at that apple? He was looking awfully pensive while looking very intently at that apple, and we know he is worried about taking away Emma’s magic.
I just wondered because when he made the comment about saying his sense of humor left when the WW arrived, it could really have been that he didn’t find it funny because that was EXACTLY what he was thinking about and considering. I don’t know that he would ever go through with it because I think he also knows that he needs to be there to protect Emma and Henry. I think it would be an easy way out of the pain of not being able to have Emma and a safe way of not worrying about taking away her magic, plus he doesn’t think he is Emma’s TL so he doesn’t think she would kiss him to wake him up.
Just something that occurred to me when I saw a gif on tumblr that was a close up of Hook looking pensively at the apple.
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