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I really think those Episode titles are fake on imdb.

I actually usually like the real world parts more then the fairytale land parts. So i would dislike an all fairytale land season. And i think there is still a lot more to tell in flashback even if everyone remembers by the end of the season. I think it would be pretty amusing to see the characters not know how to do things. Like how to use the stove or how to drive or where to go. That sounds like fun to me.

And how would Snow react the first time she saw Regina wandering around town and she has to pretend that she is still afraid of her. That also sounds like fun to me. It did seem like the Hatter knew things about both worlds though.

If they did one full episode of fairytale land and then one of the real world i would be okay with that. That might help them to be able to do a grander scale and more action in the fairytale land. Especially if there is ever going to be any fighting against the queen in any way. That might allow for more complex plots.

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And maybe that is it, sjm, maybe Rumpel has visions or something and doesn’t really know all of the future. There just seems to be so much that he doesn’t know. And we haven’t seen him having any sort of vision. We have only seen him knowing things. And i think everything we have seen him know he could know other ways then the need for visions or a crystal ball or something.

I think that he could have known it was Emma’s birthday. But i agree that more likely it was just meant to be that day. And that the course of events that lead to that moment were just set in motion though i still don’t want them to be set in motion by Rumpel.

sjm wrote:

So, that is what leads me to believe he doesn’t always see the future, but he already knows an outcome and plays with the “pieces” along the way to glean his information. But I think that knowing the outcome is the future he can find out, but perhaps finding that out costs him something. So, its kind a combination of views. Does any of that make sense?

I think the difference i see is that Rumpel isn’t seeing the future so much as causing the future to happen. Like he wants a certain outcome. Like he wanted the Fairy Godmother’s wand she he made a deal with King George for the information to find the wand. I think he caused that to happen, but didn’t see that. Like he didn’t know where the Fairy Godmother was so he had to do a deal with George to find her.

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I think that David must have actually called Kathryn and just forgot it because of his blackouts. I am not sure if that really makes sense. But i don’t think it makes sense that the Queen would burn the letter from Kathryn and then implant the same fake memories in David. That doesn’t seem to make sense to me.

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I really do think that Regina just snatched Belle before she went home. I am not even certain if Belle would have gone home anyways. Maybe she did though. Maybe part of the story is true. Either way at some point Regina snatched her.

@NONNIE wrote:

RUMPLE / GOLD might have blown his chance with Belle, she might not forgive him or want to have anything to do with him.

What are your thought on how Bell would react to Gold?

I agree Nonnie. After all that Belle has been through. I don’t think Belle should forgive him. And if she has been stuck down there with her memories that is even worse. I don’t think she would be sane or at least she would have major issues.

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I don’t think that Rumpel can SEE either. I just don’t think that it is necessary for him to manipulate this situation for it to come to pass. I think that Henry got the book a few months ago. He decided to look up Emma and found out it was almost her birthday so he went to look for her. I think it was meant to be. It also could somehow be magic. That she wished it. That she wished that she didn’t have to be alone on her birthday and the action was already set in motion to grant that wish.

I just don’t find it necessary that Rumpel have his hands in everything. I like the idea of using Emma’s magic and just the idea that this was destiny. There was already a prophecy. I think that if they are going to have someone helping Emma outside of Storybrooke it should not be Gold. I think that i find him being the causer for everything as uninteresting and i like the idea that it was meant to be more. That is just me.

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I am not sure if it is a call if we already know it to be true. Some of these things we already know are true. I am only calling things i don’t know for certain.

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I definitely think it is the same people. Thanks for the shots Phee.

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I thought she was Grace at first, but now i think she is young Snow as a hint at the next episode.

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We might never see Alice in this show. They don’t usually show the story we know. Like with Cinderella. They assume that we know what happens between the moment where Cinderella was given the big ball gown and the moment when she and Thomas are up on the balcony at their wedding. They never actually showed the known story. That is all assumed. I think the same thing will be true of the Alice story.

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The thing is that Belle thought she was a captive. She thought about it. Once he let her go she was going to run. She wasn’t going to come back. It was only once she met the Queen and the Queen told her to go back and break the curse that she decided to go back.

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