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ParticipantThat crest on the banners at the ball is King Midas’.


Emma’s gonna inadvertently mess up how her parents got together, and that ball is Charming and Abigail’s wedding.
Emma will track down Rumple to help her set everything right again, and will prove who she is and get him to help by telling him things about his son, both past and future.
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ParticipantI liked her. Would have been nice to see more of her, and get some answers as to how she happened to be brought to Oz via cyclone. If there was a prophecy about arrival via cyclone, it can’t be a thing that happens regularly.
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ParticipantWas trying to think that the shards of Zelena *poofing* reminded me of. Zombie Maleficent.
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ParticipantI think she doesn’t have magic because she doesn’t want magic. Just as she didn’t really want to find that book. It’s there, but it’s buried, just deeply as her heart is buried.
Agreed. She’ll get it back when she wants to believe in it.
May 5, 2014 at 4:07 am in reply to: 3X20 KANSAS – – FAVORITE and LEAST FAVORITE MOMENTS – – – #266392Phee
ParticipantActually enjoyed this ep more than others recently…up until the end.
I did want Zelena dead, in no small part for the same reasons Rumple wanted her dead, but I did NOT want him achieving that by lying to Belle. Dude, you don’t freaking propose marriage in a fake way! He knew he was doing the wrong thing, you could see it in his face when he was hugging her, but he still did it. *SIGH*
In happier news, when seen in context, with all the build up to it, Regina being able to use light magic made far more sense and didn’t annoy me like the leaked peek did. It was nice seeing Henry encouraging and inspiring her. But then they had her smirk when she put the pendant away, which felt wrong, because if she has some nefarious plan up her sleeve, how was she able to use pure good light magic, because I wouldn’t think that would work if the person has ulterior motives?
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ParticipantWaiting for Phee’s reactions to episode…
Sorry, got to watching this one a bit later than usual, but I read all the comments earlier, and even listened to the Initial Reactions Podcast while waiting for it to download.
Anyway, a big thing that jumped out to me was the scene between Archie and Henry. Shoutouts to sleeping in the Bug, (which SF did), Henry considering a place near the water, (“Is it near a beach?”) and the scene closing with Henry saying “we’re home”. Holy Tallahassee references in Kansas, Batman.
Bonus Tallahassee reference was Zelena telling the baby, “We’re almost home.” “Tallahssee baby. We’re almost home.”
Emma’s still going on about going back to NYC, which was of course Neal’s home.
The Charming family portrait shot after they bring the Snowflake back has a Neal sized hole in it, (and Hook is standing on the outer, showing that he’s really not close to being part of the family).
And this may or may not be a thing, but in the scene where Glinda brings Zelena to meet the other witches, there are big gate like structures, and I guess there’s one with the symbol for each of the 4 elements, but the one that happens to be prominent in that scene is the one with the symbol for fire on the top, (same symbol that was burnt into Neal’s hand). We also see the one with the water symbol when there’s a wide shot, but the fire symbol is seen a few times.
Those are my initial SF related thoughts on this ep.
Oh and PS: *slapping Rumple* DUDE, REALLY?!
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ParticipantYes Jaxer, that totally counts in my book! 😉 (That stuff happens to me too.)
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ParticipantJaxer, that’s the best dream ever!!! You’ve never displayed any psychic, future telling ability before by any chance? 😉
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ParticipantI gather that a lot of people diagree with the show making Regina the one to save the day from the wicked green clutches of Z and her timey wimey spells.
I don’t have an issue with Regina playing a significant role in them defeating Zelena. They’re sisters, it’s envy for Regina that’s been fueling Zelena’s entire plan, so it’s fitting that there’s a particular role that Regina should play in winning the battle. I just have an issue with THIS in particular being the role she plays because it feels OOC for her IMO. I think it’d take away some of her edge if suddenly she’s all goodness and light.
It would also take away Emma’s unique magical quality if Regina can now do the same magic she can, essentially making them the same kind of witch. It takes away a different element of magic that they could all use to their advantage in the future. If Emma and Regina are the same, then one of them is redundant, (and with Emma only just coming into her powers, it’d be a shame to see her be made redundant straight away). In the past they’ve each brought something unique to the mix, and it’s when their differences can work together that they become strongest.
If Emma did the light magic thing to rid Zelena of the pendant that controls her powers, and then they had Regina use her magic to finish business off in whatever situation Zelena causes when she strikes back, everyone would get to stay true to their magic specialty, it’s a team effort, and Regina gets final say in the showdown with her sister.
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ParticipantBy that logic, Regina will always be the Evil Queen. Everyone always calls her that.
That’s been changing within the dialogue of the show though, and in how other characters react to Regina and now work with her. I can’t imagine anyone who knows Regina referring to her as the EQ any more in present day. Meanwhile, we had Emma just a couple of episodes ago declaring, “I’M NO AMATEUR, I’M THE SAVIOUR.” They’ve kept that word very firmly in the present day dialogue.
It makes me wonder even more if Emma’s gonna be the one burned at the stake in the AU, as their take on the whole “Saviour being nailed to the cross” thing.
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