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Dear folks in Le Tent Of Doom, I totally understand why you can’t have any sort of hope, and it’s OK, just…
X[adrotate group="5"]DSB and Corbin, you MUST see the BTTF movies! They’re good times!
And a *clock tower* is important?
Yup! And on the show, they threw Regina through the clocktower to bring attention to it. And in that same scene there was someone wearing a Dr Who scarf. Now they’re dropping lines that sound like references to WoT. It’s all about the timey wimey stuff in 3B.
That table flipping gif is so accurate for my mood most of the time these days. Seriously.
Regina : It’s not like you invented the wheel !
Oh I missed that one, nice catch!!
You can sort of see a bit of a bump on Aurora in 319. She wasn’t showing when she told Mulan, and there was only about a week between that moment and when the SBers arrived back in FTL, then by the time of 319, another couple of months have passed, so she’s showing a bit.
Snow looked huge in that scene due to Ginny really being pregnant, but Snow would have been barely a month pregnant at that point, because then they jumped forward 8 months for the next scene.
The real question here is: what is the price of the curse? What hole is in Snow’s heart?
Oh, I had a whole little rant about that over in the Curse Casting thread just before. The general gist of my drawn out post was that Charming still walking around is like how Neal was still walking around, and look how that ended, and because Snowing now share a heart, if half of Snow’s heart dies, she should really drop dead too. And because they won’t kill both Snow and Charming, the most logical solution seems to me that they’d have to go back in time to undo them having cast the Curse. And if they’re gonna be going back in time to undo dark magic things people shouldn’t have done because it cost them their lives…well…I’M JUST SAYIN’.
Copying and pasting a thing I wrote in another thread just now, because I have a shippy thing to add on the end…
I’ve always figured it would be a Regina/Henry kiss that broke this Curse, so that didn’t surprise me. But the whole time I’d been thinking that, I’d been thinking that Zelena had cast the Curse, so blood magic whatever and that’s why Regina. But that doesn’t hold water any more.
It could just be that it had to be someone who was cursed had to kiss someone who WASN’T cursed, and that connection would break it. That would fit for Regina and Henry.
…And it would also fit for Emma and Neal, which is why they couldn’t have her kiss him during the death scene, because they wanted to save the curse breaking moment to be a Regina/Henry moment.
I’ve always figured it would be a Regina/Henry kiss that broke this Curse, so that didn’t surprise me. But the whole time I’d been thinking that, I’d been thinking that Zelena had cast the Curse, so blood magic whatever and that’s why Regina. But that doesn’t hold water any more.
It could just be that it had to be someone who was cursed had to kiss someone who WASN’T cursed, and that connection would break it. That would fit for Regina and Henry.
BTW. An unrelated note. Have we discussed how Glinda said Zelena’s power is in her *necklace*? Well isn’t that interesting. Who else has necklaces that might be important?
Their sacrifice is beautiful
What sacrifice, though? The sacrifice was supposed to be Charming’s life, but Snow found a way to circumvent that. And they got to be reunited with Emma and Henry, so they’ve actually got a reward out of this so far, as opposed to paying a price. So Snow hasn’t paid a price for casting that Curse yet. Which by rights should mean that there’s a price coming. Will that be the baby being taken, or worse? If they save the baby, (which you know they will because they’re not gonna sacrifice a baby on this show), then we’re back at Snow not having paid a price for casting the Curse. If they just let her get away with it, ignoring one of the show’s key mantras, then that will be crap. Charming dying like he should have would also suck, but Charming walking around when he shouldn’t be is like Neal walking around when he shouldn’t have been, and we saw how that ended up. And if Charming dies now, will Snow die too because their hearts are each half of a whole, and if half your heart dies, you’re pretty screwed? So would the price for having avoided the price be BOTH of them dying?
But of course they won’t kill off both Snow and Charming. IMO the solution is to go back in time to undo the fact that they cast the Curse, so they no longer have a price to pay.
But at 3AM, I pondered it differently. Henry asked for the keys. In the back of my head, I hear Neal’s voice, “You could have just asked for the keys.” In that same scene, Henry referenced being in prison. I am now dying to rewatch that scene and see what ELSE might be packed in there, because I suspect there is more.
Henry: Fine – I’m – going home.
Hook: You’re running way.
Henry: Whatever.Firstly, HOME. The “home” he was intending to get back to is the city that was also Neal’s home. He was gonna get back home by stealing the Bug, which was his parents’ home when they were on the run, before deciding to settle down.
Of course, his saying that he was just gonna drive to the nearest bus station is a callback to him taking the bus in the Pilot.
The Game Of Thorns truck is in the background, which I figure must have some significance, otherwise why haul that thing out of storage. It could just be the imagery of the thorns behind Hook, everyone’s been thinking lately he smells like a rose, when actually, nope, totally thorny.
With regards to the song lyrics – holy cow. I actually came to post because something dawned on me about them (get there in a sec) but that line about the dove… holy cow.
The lyric that stuck in my mind is, “Makes one man weep, makes another man sing.” This afternoon, it occurred to me that perhaps they would set it up such that each guy in the triangle would be one of those characteristics – and they did. In this episode, they posthumously *continued* showing us the triangle – Neal, whose power of love was so great he was able to temporarily overcome magical absorbtion to save his family; Hook, whose inclination was to revert to lying, kidnapping, etc. Who is weeping, and who is singing.
You’re all up in my brain again because I’d been thinking about that weep/sing line for the last couple of days as well. Neal isn’t just singing like some canary at the end of this ep, he’s screeching like a big, powerful…well, hawk, speaking of those song lyrics. Hawk, dove, Swan, Phoenix the freaking fireBIRD. I’m just saying.
And yeah, by the end of this ep, Hook had some stuff to weep about alright.
So if we are supposed to see this as a Snow-Neal parallel then I don’t think it’s TOO insane to say Neal is the one made to sing. (And I believe we ARE supposed to see that parallel – in 312 Hook assumed it was her (Charming’s, “It does sound like you,”) and we were reminded again in 3×19 that it was supposedly Snow who sent it.)
YUP!!!!
Whyyyyyyy bother? Seriously, A&E, seriously? You don’t develop character after death!! They continued to have this character sacrifice himself. To illustrate him as the better suited of the two rivals – in this same episode, in which they showed Neal again a hero, they showed Hook again a villain. And if triangle is dead, finit, kaput, why bother?
Why bother indeed?! Why use that one scene to continue to build Neal up as being the biggest damn hero on the show, in the same episode where they paralleled Neal with Snow to an extent, and showed her bringing her TL back from death, if it’s not all connected somehow? Seriously, he’s an EPIC HERO! I’ve even seen posts on tumblr from CSers saying how awesome and selflessly heroic he is, (we’ll ignore the parts where they say that he ships CS because that’s laughable). You’re gonna make him possibly the biggest hero the show has seen, and then not have a twist that allows for him to get his happy ending? Really, show? If they don’t have that twist planned, then I dunno what the point is of them continuing to show how awesome he is. That scene could have been tacked onto the end of 315, (and then just used 319 to fill in the gaps of the Curse casting that led up to that moment), but instead they had it as a stand alone scene to highlight Neal’s heroism to the max.
