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I think now that they found some wonderland mushrooms on Hook ship that Pan threw in the stew and they are literally on a mind trip

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Too old or something.

Yeah, looks like an older face to me.

They don’t look too happy. There wasn’t a report of Jared being on set that day with everyone else, was there? Wonder if something is up with Henry.

And I guess now we can safely say that Regina doesn’t get sent back to FTL with the NewCurse?

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Oz the G and P wasn’t a huge success so can they/would they draw from it? Does it follow the Oz books?

I think they technically could, because it’s Disney, but I dunno that they’d copy anything exactly. Still, I’ll bet they watched it and made notes of ideas that might inspire their own. I’m not that familiar with the details of the Oz books, but this movie doesn’t have a Dorothy, it’s like the prequel to Dorothy’s story, setting up how the Wizard got there and who the Witches are. Plot summary…

In 1905 Kansas, Oscar “Oz” Diggs works as a small-time magician in a traveling circus. As a storm approaches, the circus strongman learns Oscar has flirted with his wife and goes after him. Oscar escapes in a hot air balloon, but is sucked into a tornado that takes him to the Land of Oz. There he encounters the beautiful yet naive witch Theodora, who believes him to be a wizard prophesied to destroy the Wicked Witch who killed the King of Oz. En route to the Emerald City, Theodora falls in love with Oscar. They encounter the flying monkey Finley, who pledges a life debt to Oscar when he saves Finley from a lion.

At the Emerald City, Oscar meets Theodora’s sister Evanora, who tells him the Wicked Witch resides in the Dark Forest and can be killed by destroying her wand, the source of her powers. Oscar and Finley are joined en route to the forest by China Girl, a young, living china doll whose village and family were destroyed by the Wicked Witch. The three reach the forest and, upon retrieving the wand, discover the “Wicked Witch” is Glinda the Good Witch, who tells them Evanora is the real Wicked Witch. Evanora sees this with her crystal ball and manipulates Theodora against Oscar, falsely claiming he is trying to court all three witches. She offers the heartbroken Theodora a magic apple she says will remove her heartache. Theodora bites it and changes into a green-skinned Wicked Witch.

Glinda brings Oscar’s group to her domain in Oz to escape Evanora’s army of Winkies and flying baboons. She confides to Oscar that she knows he is not a wizard. However, she still believes he can help stop Evanora, and provides him an “army” of Quadlings, tinkers, and Munchkins. Theodora enters Glinda’s domain and angrily reveals her new, hideous appearance to Oscar before threatening to kill him and his allies with the Emerald City’s well-prepared army. Oscar despairs of his chances, but after telling China Girl about the exploits of his hero Thomas Edison, he realizes they can fight using prestidigitation.

Glinda and her subjects mount a mock attack on the Wicked Witches’ castle using a pulley-rig army of scarecrows blanketed by thick fog. The witches are tricked into sending their flying baboons through a poppy field that puts them to sleep. However, two baboons manage to capture Glinda, who is brought to the city square and enchained. Meanwhile, Oscar infiltrates the Emerald City with his allies, only to seemingly abandon them in a hot air balloon loaded with gold, which Theodora destroys with a fireball. Oscar then secretly reveals himself to his friends, having faked his death. Using a hidden smoke machine and image projector, he presents a giant, holographic image of his face as his “true” form, and a fireworks display to attack and intimidate the Wicked Witches. Evanora fearfully hides in her castle while Theodora flees on her broom, unable to hurt the “invincible” wizard. China Girl frees Glinda, who defeats Evanora, destroying the Wicked Witch’s emerald necklace that hides her true, crone-like appearance. The banished Evanora is carried off by the two remaining flying baboons.

Oscar, now King of Oz, uses his projector to sustain the belief he is a powerful wizard. He also presents gifts to his friends: Master Tinker, who helped build his machines, receives Oscar’s camping-tool jackknife; Knuck, the grumpy Munchkin herald, receives a mask with a smiley face; the long-suffering Finley receives Oscar’s friendship along with his top hat; and China Girl accepts her friends as her new family. Finally, Oscar takes Glinda behind the curtains of his projector and kisses her.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oz_the_Great_and_Powerful#Plot

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I noticed that about the TVGuide thing as well. Ah, fickle media, slowly but surely driving us crazy. *sigh*

Fate, destiny may have brought them to together but they fell in love all their own. Its like Mr. Gold told Emma about her heart, “Everything you have done, you’ve done yourself.”

YES! What she is and who she is are two different things, and the who part is what fell in love with Neal.

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I think either Bobby or Kitswitz (or maybe it was even Jane? I’m sure someone has mentioned it) has said in the past that Rumple’s ring is just a ring…for now…but that doesn’t mean it couldn’t become something at a later date.

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“It’s really cool that I’m actually able to be Pan,” Gilmore tells TVGuide.com from the set of the ABC fairy tale drama. “It’s very interesting for me getting to study Robbie; some of his facial expressions and how Peter is very cocky and mischievous. It’s very different because I’ve been Henry for so long and now I’m a completely new person. I was excited because out of all the characters I’ve ever wanted to be on the show, it was Peter Pan.”

Must have been so cool for Jared to get to play around with being someone different.

“Regina’s a little blindsided because she’s just happy her son wants her,” Lana Parrilla says. “She can justify it by saying, ‘I saved you, so that’s why you want me.’ I don’t think she knows that he’s different or that he’s acting different. She’s just so elated to have him and for him to want her.”

This is making me sad, because she’s gonna find out that the kid isn’t really Henry after all. Hopefully she’ll get a big hug from RealHenry when it’s all resolved. I was saying the other day that perhaps FakeHenry would insist on staying with Regina in a bid to cause tension between the parents, and also get close enough to her to get some revenge.

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Also, for those who haven’t seen Oz the Great and Powerful, that necklace wasn’t just a fashion accesory. She drew her power from just as Glinda drew it from her wand and Theodora from her ruby ring. *SPOILER ALERT* When Glinda snatches the necklace off, it breaks the spell that hid the way she really looked. She was so wicked that she was an old ugly yellow hag, while her sister was a green (and much more attractive) green witch >> so if they saw her in some sort of costume and she is the witch of the east, I’m sure they saw her like that. Yellow, and haggy

Yep. I couldn’t remember the details but remembered that each of them had an object they got their powers from, so googled to give myself a refresher and BOOM, emerald pendant that looks similar to what Rebecca’s wearing, and my that-cannot-be-a-coincidence-Oncer-spidey-senses had a little freak out. LOL It’s not necessarily the same exact thing here though. If the Onceiverse is gonna have the East and West witches be separate characters, and if Rebecca’s playing one of them, West is far more likely, because she’s the better known/characterised of the two, and as some of you have pointed out, that costume looks Gulch-ish. So maybe that thing she’s wearing did belong to her sister, but it didn’t get destroyed like it did in Oz Great & Powerful. Maybe East’s body died, but this pendant still contains her powers, and so West is keeping it safe.

Let’ s see, I am going to go with she’s Snow’s aunt, Eva’s sister. Since they had the “slippers” line about Eva and Eva was good (when she got older) maybe she is one of the witches, and this new villain is Glinda the evil sister mashed into the Wicked Witch of the West (so both characters).

So that makes her Emma’s grandaunt.

Here’s the thing I cut and pasted together the last time this slippers topic was discussed, (image on the left is an illustration from the original book, on the right is Eva’s “slippers”)…

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I dunno how much they’d want to borrow directly from Oz The Great and Powerful, (which was a Disney production, so they probably could borrow anything they wanted from it), but this is Evanora, with her emerald amulet, which could potentially be the same thing as what Rebecca’s wearing? Maybe?

Evanora the Wicked Witch of the East is the main antagonist in the 2013 Disney fantasy film Oz the Great and Powerful. A witch to be feared, Evanora is Theodora’s over-protective sister. With her penetrating gaze, she exudes a powerful presence and has positioned herself as the royal adviser and protector of The Emerald City.

http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Evanora_the_Wicked_Witch_of_the_East

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The only pic where you can see her full costume, it might be nothing, or might be something, but that brooch she’s wearing seems to have a huge green stone or something in it.

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I think by theme song they mean something you can actually sing.

I’m one of only five people alive who has never seen Wicked, so am not overly familiar with the soundtrack, but I know there are a few songs in there that have become kind of iconic. Could any one of those big songs be considered a “theme song” for a character? The “and not just in recent Disney history,” could mean, “the character has also been immortalised in Wicked.”

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