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Convent is the only place that’d have enough room to take in a bunch of new people all at once. Regina’s place might be big enough, but I don’t see that happening. I’m sure Neal and Emma would want to be involved with making sure the Lost Boys are taken care of, but I doubt we’ll actually see a whole lot of ongoing Lost Boy story.
[adrotate group="5"]Ah but Blue did not tell Rumple about the curse.
The seer did.
I have a crack theory that the Seer was a shape shifting Blue. Blue is the one who planted the idea of a Curse in Rumple’s head. The Seer confirmed it and gave him a hefty shove in the direction of getting it done. The Seer has bright blue eyes, I swear I hear some of Keegan’s voice layered in there, and whenever she’s asked what other character she’d like to play, she always answers, “I love the smaller parts, like the Seer,” and it makes me wonder if her constant mention of that isn’t a hint that she actually was involved with the portrayal of that character.
Although if 312 is an AU, why is Hook in NYC? Maybe in an AU he would’ve been someone Emma had to bring in for bail lol, which would be hilarious. But then he’s in the EF as well…..I don’t know lol, this is insane.
Hook is a confusing factor. Other characters might have been in NYC stuff too, but he’s the only one we have confirmation on. If he’s in both places, then it would mean we’re being shown two different AUs in the one ep, which might be overkill and confusing.
So I’m still inclined to think that the stuff in NYC is actual present day. It’s either that, or Hook’s jumping back and forth, but I think the fact that he’s wearing all black in NYC and the red vest in FTL is meant to indicate that those are separate versions of the character. If he’s portal jumping back and forth, why the costume change? (And again, we don’t know for sure that he IS the only character who’d be in both lands, and if there ARE more of them, like Snowing, then it becomes even more unlikely that they’re jumping back and forth.)
If it was all the same AU setting across both worlds, then what would Hook even be doing in our world? The only reason he ended up here was to kill Rumple, but if everyone else is still living in FTL, then you’d think Rumple would have been there too, because there was never a Curse cast, so Hook wouldn’t have had cause to come here. And how is Henry in NYC if Neal’s always been living in FTL, because Henry shouldn’t even exist? And how would Emma be in our world if her parents are still in FTL? Unless Emma still got sent to our world somehow, even if there was no Curse?
So basically, all things considered, I think that the FTL stuff and the NYC stuff are two totally separate realities. And having them BOTH being AUs, that are different, but still have characters appearing in both, would be hella confusing, so I think the NYC stuff is more likely to be actual, present day.
As for Robin Hood, I still think it could go either way, and Regina may well travel back to FTL for some reason, but maybe when she comes back to SB, she’ll bring Robin and the Merry Men back as well? I have a hunch that Robin might be in some of that whatever stuff in FTL, because that PA had one tweet during the 312 filming that mentioned Merry Men, and it seems Sean has been hanging out with Colin, which suggests they’ve been working the same hours recently. But if that stuff IS an AU, then RegalHood still have to meet for real in present day somehow. And if Henry’s gone to NYC with Emma, then I think it’s likely that Regina’s off in another land.
Can it be March now plz?
Reason why I surprirsingly don’t have a problemw ith it: we have proof of Henry’s magic genetics from episode 1 of this season. Henry is born, cue power outage
Ah, but was that Henry or Emma?
I’m inclined to say it was Emma, and I’m basing that assumption on how back in the Pilot, the power line sparked the first time she set foot in SB.
Yet, if Peter Pan intended for Henry to grow up old enough, he still would’ve needed for baby Henry to be raised in our world since Henry would’ve remained a baby in NL. I’m guessing that is where the Darlings brothers would’ve come into play since they probably would’ve raised Henry in Boston but taught him all about the truth of Neverland actually existing, making sure that Henry would still believe in PP.
That would make more sense, if the DB were tasked with raising him in our world, instead of Pan just wanting the baby in NL immediately.
Yet, that seems to raise the issue of exactly who, if anyone besides Rumple, was behind the Dark Curse. Could it possibly have been the Blue Fairy after all? Someone else?
Pan needed the Curse to happen so that Emma would get sent to our world alone, meet Neal, and make Henry.
Rumple needed the Curse to happen so that he could get to the world that Neal was in.
So who needed the Curse cast in order for SB to be created, because it seems like Pan didn’t need it as a place to raise Henry, and Rumple didn’t exactly gain anything from having been trapped in the town for 28 years.
Was the SB factor purely for Regina’s sake? So she’d have some motivation to cast that particular Curse in the first place? But why THAT Curse, that destroyed a whole land? Surely there could have been some other way for Regina to get the better of Snow, for Rumple to find his way to our world on his own, and the same for Emma. Surely any number of curses or whatever would have worked. But no, all three of them, Pan, Rumple, and Regina, ended up using this particular, world destroying Curse as a means to each of their ends. There’s gotta be a reason that EVERYONE in FTL had to be displaced. And the only person I could imagine having enough knowledge to be aware that such a thing was necessary and/or possible, is Sneaky Fairy.
Yeah, I’ve been wondering about that stuff as well. I’d had Pan pegged as an orchestrator of Curse related stuff as a means to get Emma to our world, and also to provide an environment for Henry to be raised in where he’d grow up to be the person Pan needed him to be. But that doesn’t seem to be the case, at least not entirely, because it seems he had no use for SB, he just needed the baby making to happen and then wanted to get the baby ASAP after he was born. But then why was the boy in the pic older than a newborn? It’s not like Pan could check for a match if the DB had succeeded in getting the baby. And if Henry had to give his heart willingly, which is what we saw happen, a baby can’t do that.
I need to stop thinking about this ep, because the more I think about it, the more potential plot holes I end up with. 😛
The way they’ve done the promo, it makes it look like Regina’s gonna be seriously on the outer once they get back to SB, so the reality will probably be different. Actually, I could see “Henry” insisting that he wants to go home with Regina because a) it would be a way for him to try and turn all the parents against each other if the kid is seen to be picking faves, and 2) it’d mean he’s alone with Regina to get some revenge for the heart ripping.
(Where is Neal BTW? Is he with Henry?)
I’m gonna guess yes. Then PanInTheBox will be all, “I’m Henry! The kid you think is me, is actually Pan.” Then they’ll be, “Oh crap, Neal’s alone with Pan?” Then they’ll call Neal and there’ll be no answer because FakeHenry bopped him on the head and knocked him unconscious so he could go run around town with Felix.
Actually, Regina’s not at the town line either, is she? She could replace Neal in that above scenario, if they wanna give Neal some time to go hang out with the Darlings.
I think the main problem some folks have (correct me if I’m wrong, those of you who were bothered by it) is that without a clearer indication that Gold pulled some strings, it seems like an unbelievable behavior by the guy at the adoption agency and unbelievable behavior by a character always takes us out of the story.
Yep, that’s totally what happened with me.
Though even if that initial part of the story had been clarified, it was still really bizarre that the agent didn’t even raise an eyebrow when Regina kept changing her mind about wanting the baby. They were trying to pass it off as being a real world, official business, legit as it could be under the circumstances adoption, and his non-reaction in that scene was completely unrealistic, which also took me out of the story. Like, seriously, you’re in the business of child welfare and the lady who brought the kid into your office 30 seconds ago, saying how she didn’t want him any more, she suddenly changed her mind again…and you just let the obviously emotionally unstable woman walk outta there with a newborn in her care? Seriously?
If he wasn’t in contact with Gold and involved in the shadiness of the deal, then he should have been more concerned about letting the crazy lady take the baby. If he was in contact with Gold and involved in the shadiness of the deal, then he obviously wasn’t very committed to it, because he already had the DB ready and waiting to take the baby next. But nothing about him suggested he was a shady character who’d forge adoption applications for the right price. And he seemed to believe that the DB were genuine and would wanna go back on the waiting list.
GAH, that adoption agent was just written and acted so poorly IMO.
I have no idea how Emilie even stands in those shoes, let alone walks in them.
Saw this image this morning
So Rumple is wearing his scarf near the town line. Does he think he needs to be the one to go over and deal with Pan. He and Emma can cross but no one else. Maybe that’s why Emma and Charming go to Rumple?
If only there weren’t text on the screen, but is that the Box on the ground under the “on” in “Conway”? When he put Pan into the Box, Rumple made a comment about blood magic working both ways, and it was Neal who got Rumple out of the Box, so perhaps Rumple has to be the one to open the Box in this scene, hence the shawl, because he had to momentarily go over the line?
