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Also, did she tell Henry, that the family had a little boy I thought it was a little girl because if it was another baby girl they might have problems accepting Emma now and that is why they put Emma but back into the system at the age of 3. If they had a boy it wouldn’t have matter if they had Emma.
Also I thought she was adopted not foster which I could get that transcript on that talk that Henry had with Emma.
Henry: You don’t know what it’s like with her. My life sucks!
Emma: Oh, you wanna know what sucking is? Being left abandoned on the side of a freeway; my parents didn’t even bother to drop me off at a hospital! (Begins to break down) I ended up in a foster system and I had a family until I was three but then they had their own kid so they sent me back… (Stops, collects self.) Look. Your mom is trying her best. I know it’s hard. And I know sometimes you think she doesn’t love you. But at least she wants you.How can a foster parent provide a last name?
I admit to not knowing how it actually works, I’m just guessing that as an infant she was probably Emma Doe, and when the family who fostered her until she was 3 took her in, she took their surname.
I think the flashback to Emma’s foster family will occur when Snow reveals to Emma she is pregnant. The flashback would show the differences between Emma’s reactions to the news. At 3, she would’ve been excited about having a little brother or sister before she got sent back into care because of it, whilst as an adult Emma would be reluctant of the news because of what happened last time, even though she’s not going to be sent away again.
That would be a good time for them to address it. We figure they’ll write Ginny’s pregnancy into the storyline, but dunno exactly how/when. I’ve had the crack theory that they’ll have a time jump of about 6 months between 311 and 312 so that Snow’s pregnancy can catch up to Ginny’s and they won’t have to keep trying to hide it.
I think it is possibly someone who got Emma into the bailsbond profession.
Maybe he knew her when she was in jail? He was a corrections officer of some description who she got to know, and he helped her get on her feet once she was free? If he’s someone who works in that field, maybe he’s helping her again if there’s some legal trouble that Neal’s in, like some of us have speculated.
I just think he’s gotta be someone she was close to on an emotional level in the past, because Emma Swan doesn’t just go around hugging people like that and letting them kiss her forehead.
[adrotate group="5"]The glitch I can see in the theory that he’s the kid that Emma’s foster family had and sent her away, (I’m assuming that’s the family she got the Swan name from, because they had her until she was 3), is the actors’ ages, because he may only be a handful of years older than JMo IRL, but he couldn’t pass for being 26, which he’d have to be if he was the kid that Emma’s foster parents had when she was 3. It’d make for a cool story if it turns out that that kid grew up, discovered that his parents had given Emma away, and tracked her down, but I just don’t think the ages would work.
That doesn’t mean that he couldn’t have been a foster brother from a different family, though.
I’m really torn between the two.
I saw a thing on tumblr just before that makes me wanna keep one foot in the AdultHenry camp, even though it doesn’t work logically for me any more, because he’s in more scenes than I’d previously thought. But, just…
See what I’m sayin’ about him having Henry hair? 😆 He totally looks like he could be an older version of Henry IMO. But I don’t want a time traveling older Henry hanging out with them having dinner in a restaurant.I wonder how old the character is gonna be? The actor’s 39, which is 5 years older than JMo, but she’s playing a 29 year old. So if he’s playing his actual age, his character is potentially about 10 years older than Emma. But he could also be playing someone a bit younger than his real life age.
Family tree is someone who is actually is in the family, so I really doubt this. For adding to the family tree we have to add Rumble’s Dad, and David’s Dad then perhaps latter Snow’s new baby this would complete the family tree.
If Emma had a foster brother at any point, then yes, that person would legitimately be a part of the family tree. And the article about adding to the family tree said, “Once Upon a Time‘s most magical family tree is poised to grow — even beyond the new addition of Peter Pan as Rumpelstiltskin’s father and recent “baby talk” between Snow White and Prince Charming.”
It was definitely in character for Neal to handle it like that. He has a history of doing the right thing to help people, even if it’s at great detriment to himself, so the concept of helping someone expecting a reward for it appalls him.
And it was also in character for Hook to handle it the way he did. I’d just been hoping, as a Hook fan, for some character growth with him, but alas, not so much as of yet.
Everything Alice knows about her mother was told to her, because she never met her. In episode two she says, “My mother used to play. Or so I was told. She died when I was born. I thought if I learned to play like her it would make my father happy.”
Right you are, I’d forgotten about her saying that. It’s in the scene where Cyrus is teaching her swordplay.
Just because she was told that her mother died when she was born doesn’t necessarily make it true though. If something WL-related took her mother away, her father could have told Alice a lie about it. Like we’ve seen Neal say, it was easier to tell the Darlings that his father was dead, rather than admit that he’d abandoned him. Perhaps Alice’s mother left her father to go to WL, but to protect his daughter, so she wouldn’t grow up feeling abandoned, instead he just told her that her mother died in childbirth.
When I saw Neal tell Rumple that there would be no deal or price for saving David, I thought it was both a statement of what Neal expects of Rumple and also a means of calling out Hook. While he may not know the specifics, I think Neal has a very good idea of how the Hook/Emma kiss happened. I thought that Neal was challenging Hook’s honor in a way that Hook really couldn’t argue.
I hadn’t really thought about that, but you might have a point. Neal has experience dealing with Hook on an emotional level. For however long he was on the JR, he considered Hook an honest friend, until the found the pic of Milah and figured out that Hook had been using him. So judging by his own experience, he probably figures it’s safe to assume that his bonding with Emma has an ulterior motive, just like it did back in the day with himself.
It was also an opportunity for Hook to see his actions through some else’s eyes. Hook may truly believe that he is behaving with honor and not realize that others don’t see him that way. This could assist in growing his character.
Here’s hoping, because character growth from Hook is something I really wanna see, just for the sake of me appreciating him in his own right, not even really in relation to the triangle.
I do think though you bring up a great point, that Hook might learn but the camera did not really frame his reaction to suggest such a thought registered. They seem to love to cutaway to Hook easily so that he was on the edge of the frame was interesting. The camera caught Emma looking at Hook then back at Neal, but Hook sort of is just staring at Neal. He does not notice Emma’s reaction so much.
I think Hook’s expression changes mid-scene, though it’s hard to read after it changes. It starts out sorta, “WOOT, Crocodile’s about to get TOLD,” and then he looks over at Emma just in time to catch the very end of her look at him, and then he goes back to looking at Neal with the hard to read expression, though he doesn’t seem to be enjoying the scene quite as much as he was a couple of seconds earlier. Speaking of how they framed the shot, I actually think it’s interesting that Hook and Emma are on either side of Neal. They didn’t focus on either of their reactions, but the reactions were still there in the background.
Whoa, happy 200th page of the thread guys!!!
*sets off confetti cannon* (FYI, the confetti is shaped like yellow Bugs.) 😀
Her mother died when she was born,
That’s not the impression I got. In the scene where Alice storms outside and her father follows, she says, “She doesn’t make you truly happy. Not like Mother.” And also, “It took you years to get over Mother.” Sounds to me like Alice knew her mother and there was a time when she and her parents were a happy little family. She does say that her father was sad for her whole childhood, so I think they lost her mother when Alice was quite young, but still old enough to be able to remember her.
I’ll be surprised if there isn’t a WL related twist to her mother and/or what happened to her. And I think her father knows about it, which is why it stresses him out that Alice has been to WL now too.
Here’s the VCF page on him: http://vancityfilming.com/upon-time-christopher-gorham-cast/
We were at the set yesterday and saw him filming a few scenes inside and outside Brix Restaurant in Yaletown, Vancouver with Jennifer Morrison.
Security tried to keep him covered with umbrellas during the daytime shoot, but it was pretty difficult for them to hide the action that went on outside later on in the evening.
Now that we know he was shooting during the day as well, and was both inside and outside the restaurant, I’m not as convinced of the aged up Henry theory.
Am leaning more towards the long lost foster brother theory now, mostly because of that article that said there are gonna be additions to Henry’s family tree before the season is done.
