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  • November 17, 2013 at 3:13 am in reply to: Adam Answers Twitter Q’s! #224386
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    Those particular tweets weren’t exactly yell-y, but if you add up all the people tweeting him stuff like that and worse, it’s a dull roar. Just telling him you think the show sucks and you’re not gonna vote for it isn’t exactly constructive critisism, which I’m guessing is what he was getting at when his response was just as juvenile and pointless as the original message. Sometimes he should just let the comments pass by, but I get why he feels the need to bite back sometimes. Even if’s not nice to receive messages from people who think your show is going downhill, I’d think he’d be more appreciative of something like, “I miss such and such on the show, like in season 1,” instead of, “bad and getting worse, sorry. Give us a first season again.”

    Realistically though, every show’s first season is unique, just by virtue of being the first season, when everything is shiny and new and they’re introducing you to the story and the characters for the first time. The following seasons will always be different as the story expands, and as viewers latch onto different characters and start formulating ideas and expectations of what they want to see next, based on what came before.

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    November 17, 2013 at 2:35 am in reply to: Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire #224384
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    Thanks for the extra info Phee! That was one of my fave Lost episodes but don’t ask me to explain it very well, LOL 😆 (And can I just tangent here for a minute about how cool it is that Lostpedia is still online?! I thought they would deactivate it after the show ended but it’s still out there!)

    There were so many great eps of that show, but anything to do with Penny and Desmond was instantly EPIC. I would have posted a link to the more detailed, Lostpedia page about that ep, but it would have melted anyone’s brain who wasn’t familiar with how the show worked. 😆

    That’s a great way to put it about Neal being in Emma’s life in two different ways. He connects to the fairytale even though his time there was different from her parents but he grew up mainly in our world which is the only world she knew until her visit to FT land last season. He really is the character that knows her the best and she’s definitely the one who knows Neal the best (even though she’s still learning new things about him in Neverland). I really hope the writers haven’t forgotten that fact in the midst of all this Triangle of Doom stuff.

    There’s no other character who has the ability to understand Emma like Neal does, purely because he’s a product of FTL and also growing up alone in our world.

    I definitely get Desmond and Penny vibes from Neal and Emma.

    I’m sitting here youtubing Desmond and Penny now. The characters are obviously different to Neal and Emma, and Desmond and Penny’s story is completely unique, (I mean, seriously, there’s no way any other show could ever replicate the complexities of LOST and the relationships involved), but there are also some similar story elements in how he left her, and then wanted to prove himself worthy, but didn’t deny that he’d screwed up and hurt her, just like Neal. And she searched for him, similar to Emma going to Tallahassee and then having a job that involved finding people. They weren’t in contact for a pre-destined period of time.

    Anyway, because I’m now youtubing Desmond and Penny and reliving their angst and beauty, and so the non-Lost viewers who are reading this can get clued into what we’re on about…

    Desmond and Penny in The Constant (with a side of Jafar ;-))
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp9nVFHk09A

    Lost: Penny’s Letter “Because all we really need to survive is one person who truly loves us”

    Desmond and Penny
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBmelh9-O7s

    (Edited a bunch of times to try and get all 3 vids to embed, but only 1 of them wants to. *kicking it*)

    November 17, 2013 at 1:05 am in reply to: Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire #224380
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    Heather did a pretty good job of explaining the “constant” basics. It’s pretty convoluted in the LOSTiverse with the time traveling and warping and whatnot. 😆 In a sense, Emma does have two timeframes she’s living in – her pre-fairytale life, and her fairytale life, and she has to reconcile the two, and Neal is a part of both.

    Daniel Faraday explains that when a consciousness travels back and forth through time, it needs a constant to latch on to. A constant is an object or person that exists in both periods of time, that the traveler deeply cares about and could recognize. If a constant is not found, the oscillations between different times will become more frequent and chaotic until the individual dies from what appears to be a severe brain aneurysm.

    http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Constant

    Brief summary of the plot of the ep titled The Constant: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Constant

    November 16, 2013 at 11:52 pm in reply to: Press Release for "Where’s Alice?" #224373
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    I’m looking forward to that doctor being on the receiving end of some torture and torment for a change.

    November 16, 2013 at 11:47 pm in reply to: Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire #224371
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    Is it an accident that Emma started to get her act back together once Neal was alive and present?

    Not accidental at all IMO. Even though it terrified her that he was alive, it also sparked some hope in her, and not even because she was specifically thinking about them being together again, but him being alive, and right there in NL, was something she never could have believed possible. So if that can happen, then there’s new hope for saving Henry as well. And even though Emma is connected to the other people she’s been working with in various ways, the connection she shares with Neal goes above and beyond all the rest. I believe she’s gonna find strength in being close to him.

    I think that the arc here is for Hook to eventually realize that Emma has feelings for another man. Hook may begin the process of understanding that everything isn’t about him and that could lead to the character growth necessary for him to have real relationships with people, like Neal, or a true friendship with Emma. Maybe that will lead to his ultimate happy ending with Tinker Bell, or Ariel (how set in stone is her thing with Eric at this point?).

    Hook’s never failed to get any woman he’s ever set his sights on. Being put in his place by Emma and accepting it would be some much needed character development for him. As for Ariel and Eric, VCF’s spoiler vid shows them kissing, so they’re looking pretty set in stone. There was so much interesting possibility for future storyline and character development if they’d gone the Hookriel route instead. Oh, well. *sigh*

    That Hook’s superficial intentions are being shown to the audience suggests that Emma will find out, too. She’s been subject to superficial relationships for most of her life so it will be familiar and not what she’s looking for.

    Yes, totally agreed that that’s why I’m expecting Hook’s true motivations, and all his secrets, will eventually be exposed to Emma. If not, then there’s a big disconnect between the audience’s perception of Hook, and Emma’s perception of Hook, and it’d make Emma look ignorant, and frankly, a bit like a victim. I just can’t imagine them writing her as being that way indefinitely, so I have hope that the truth will come out and she’ll see him for who he truly is.

    Emma’s big fears with Neal seem to center around fear of not being loved (she’s coming to terms with Neal really having loved her) and fear of losing him/not being with him. With time, and the assurances of Neal’s ongoing presence in her life no matter what, those fears seem managable.

    Fear of having the thing, and fear of losing the thing (again), all at once. The first time, she just believed in the thing, and she lost it. The second time, she secretly wanted to believe in the thing, and she lost it again. Trying for a third time…either the pattern is gonna repeat, or third time will be the charm. The fear of the former is overwhelming her though, and that’s understandable.

    But if Neal can continue to be there to support her in a non-romantic way, that will gradually give Emma some reassurance that he’s not going anywhere, ever again. She’ll learn that she can depend on him, like she did in the beginning. He can become her constant, (you know they love the LOST shoutouts). And once her confidence in that is established, then she can feel safe enough to reconnect with him in a romantic way as well.

    November 16, 2013 at 10:59 pm in reply to: Who is filming now? (SEASON 3) Part 2 #224365
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    http://vancityfilming.com/upon-time-kiss/

    Here is the kiss video

    Based on costume, it’s Ariel and Eric. Eric was wearing that white sweater at the docks.

    Yep, and the red jacket that walks into the shot with Ariel is Belle. Was Eric gutting fish right before the mermaid walked up? On the one hand, it’s fitting he’d work with fish. On the other hand, not the most romantic circumstance for their first kiss. 😛 Hope Ariel doesn’t vanish from the show after this, Cinderella style. She’s such a fun character, her cluelessness about and fascination with the human world makes her a refreshing addition to the show, so I’ll be bummed if she’s just phased out once she and Eric get together.

    November 16, 2013 at 12:38 am in reply to: The White King #224258
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    Okay. I got a theories on this. It is possible that the King is White and the Queen is Red because there is a balance between the two side, and when the Red Queen took over (In my headcannon she got help from Cora because it seems like something she would do) she destroyed the balance and made everything red. Because the crown she was wearing had red jewels not white one. So that implies perhaps the Kingdom has had a balance between red and white.

    That would make sense. Gotta be a reason why the King was originally wearing white, but the crown jewels in his castle were red.

    Also, well that escalated quickly. One second Will is waiting below while Ana gets an offer of marriage from the King and the very next second after he proposes, she’s queen, dressed head to toe in jewels.

    They shoulda had him say, “I have proposed to your future Queen, check her out,” rather than making it sound like they’d already gotten married.

    November 16, 2013 at 12:21 am in reply to: Who is filming now? (SEASON 3) Part 2 #224254
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    Ah, I’d forgotten about that Emilie info, shooting but not in Steveston.

    November 16, 2013 at 12:19 am in reply to: Anastasia's Mother #224251
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    What if Cinderella has more than 2 step-sisters, as is traditionally told? Maybe she had a 3rd, beautiful step-sis, Anna, who ran away to WL with the knave?

    I posted something similar a little while back. Who’s to say how many sisters there really were.

    If Ella’s step mother and sisters really were horrible, then maybe Ana got outta there as soon as she was able. She used Will to escape that life, and then she used the King to escape her life with Will.

    November 16, 2013 at 12:15 am in reply to: Who is filming now? (SEASON 3) Part 2 #224249
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    Do we know for sure that Rumbelle are in NYC too? I know there was talk about 4 actors shooting inside that building the other day, but there wasn’t confirmation on who the 4 people were, right?

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