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Excellent tumblr post: http://tinkerbellreturns.tumblr.com/post/64582976254/why-hook-is-not-bad-news-to-swanfire
[adrotate group="5"]I hadn’t even considered the possibility that she knows the identity of the man with the lion tattoo. The way I’d like to see the story play out is they meet, she falls for him, and then she sees his tattoo and realises he’s the guy. If she knows beforehand who he is, they run the risk of the whole romance storyline feeling forced.
Hadn’t thought of where in the ep the kiss might happen, but you make a good point, bluebutterfly, that it would make sense for it to happen early on, and then show us Hook’s history as he deals with the kiss aftermath in present day.
I wonder if Neal would even have to see it in order to force that self reflection for Hook though? The Hooker in me would rather he just think about it of his own accord. It might also be a bit cliche if Neal just so happens to show up just in time to see it happen. If he doesn’t see it, I wonder who it will be who’ll end up telling him?
As for Rumple, he totally ships SF, and he hates Hook. Even moreso than Neal reacting with, “Oh no, you’re not taking away another woman I love,” I’d expect that from Rumple. He would take Hook out in a flash so his son didn’t have to suffer losing the woman he loves to Hook, just like he did back in the day with Milah. I’m guessing Rumple will still be off on his own little NL journey though, so he probably won’t find out about it any time soon.
As Tinkerbell sees it, Regina ruined her own life, that of Robin and Tinkerbell’s life. In that Tinkerbell is a lot like Regina, blaming others for things she might at least be as responsible for. It’s the world, it’s fate, it’s the others, the cirumstances… It’s a trait of the good guys not to ask around who might be responsible, not to look everywhere else but take responsibility themselves, no matter if or how much they are responsible. Regina doesn’t do that, Rumple doesn’t, and Tinkerbell as well seems to have a bit of problem to do it. So she blames Regina, it’s simpler than to admit that she might have been even big time wrong. Could be called projection, a defense mechanism or strategy known in psychology.
Interesting observation.
Tink was responsible for stealing the dust, no question about that, she committed a crime and was punished for it. The punishment was pretty harsh, but she did know there’d be consequences, so at the end of the day, it’s her own fault she lost her wings. Which is sad, because she’d been genuinely trying to help. In their final scene in FTL, Tink is trying to be all understanding and, “It’s OK if you were scared to go in,” and she’s legitimately hurt when Regina lashes out at her.
Regina should have put the blame on herself, but instead dumped it all on Tink. So in turn, Tink has taken all her negative emotions around how she ended up, and dumped all the blame on Regina.
But then, to Regina’s credit, she did eventually accept responsibility and gave Tink the option of punishing her by crushing her heart. She did some quick talking to save herself too though. And perhaps that’s why Tink felt justified in rubbing it in with the comment about having ruined Robin’s life too, because she still wanted to transfer all the blame onto Regina in order to make herself feel better, and she couldn’t crush Regina’s heart literally, so she did it figuratively instead.
Part of me wants to say that that’s really not fair on Regina. But part of me can’t really blame Tink for being super pissed at Regina, because she really had just been trying to help.
I’m extra curious to see more of Tink now, and will be keeping this stuff in mind the more we learn about her.
This ‘new true love’ story twist, has its problems I think. First they start off the show by implying there is True Love, wich is magical and ment to be and if you Loose it your basically screwed. Now they are saying, but you can find true love Again wich is then also ment to be and hey your life is ruined if you mess it up…
They’ve never said that everyone only has ONE true love. Adam, Eddy, and even Jane have all always said that there should always be hope for new love, even if someone loses their first love. Like Jane recently said in an interview, if there’s no hope for more than one true love in your life, then how sad is that for widowers. It doesn’t mean the first is worth less than the last, it just means that there’s always hope to find new happiness in life.
Yep, what RG said.
Looking at how Regina turned out, it’s pretty reasonable for Tink to assume that Robin’s life ended up crap too. But she doesn’t have all the facts.
I am posting this here as you can see in this photo RH has no tattoo
Meh, I’m willing to accept that the sleeve is just covering it in the previous ep. They put it far enough down his arm, it’s not like it’s on his wrist.
Someone on tumblr set up a poll for the name. OutlawQueen is winning, (but I’ve been calling them RegalHood for a while now, so that’s probably gonna stick with me). http://poll.pollcode.com/44589
That is what worries me really, that Neal ends up in a can’t win situation.
Ah, he’s already there. Last season he didn’t fight for Emma so he didn’t deserve her. This season he fights to get back to her, and he’s still criticised. He just can’t win with people who already dislike him. If/when SF get back together, I do wonder what all the Neal haters are gonna make of it all, in particular what they’ll think of Emma.
I mean what could he say, to prove he loves her, yet express to her the raw deal that is finding out that the woman you love is mixed up with the guy that your own mother chose too? It is just super-messed up, and while the writers think it is “fun” to create this type of situation, in terms of actual character development it is happening in such a strange way.
I suspect that Neal’s reaction to it is gonna be how Emma learns the whole truth of the situation. I think this is the type of stuff Colin was talking about in that interview with Hook still struggling with not being selfish. If he tells Emma the whole truth, that would severely dent his chances with her, even if Neal were truly dead, she’d still not like the fact that Hook had handed him over to Pan as a child. And if the dead can’t spill the beans, then why should Hook spill the beans, when he can just keep it to himself because he’s hoping to develop a closer relationship with Emma. Then Neal will come back and the truth will come out and Hook’s selfishness will blow up in his face and he’ll realise he should have just been honest instead of trying to protect his own interests, and it’ll be a vital turning point for the development of his character.
So is it really as it would appear to those who think Hook has truly put his past away, and is just a nice honorable mini-Charming hero now? Or is there a further twist? For example, we have only Hook’s word that dreamshade is poisonous and deadly, and that the Lost Boys use it. Wouldn’t be the first time he’s led allies on to think he is more useful to them then he truly is. What strikes me as the oddest thing though, is why didn’t Tamara and Greg shoot him? After they talk in the diamond minds, they are going to destroy all of “his kind”, and no longer need him, so why let him have the chance? Well if that was their orders, then that’s why they did it, but we know who sent the orders now. Peter Pan, who just happened to have prior dealing with Hook.
I do fully expect Hook to be a hero, but the question is when, and before then what happens? What good is a pirate character if he does not do something piratey?
I don’t doubt the nastiness of dreamshade. We’ve seen Tink with an arrow dipped in it too, and Pan did dip the apple arrow in it as well. Perhaps it works in a funky way where it infects you more, the less faith you have, and that’s why Hook said it could take days, or weeks, because it depends on the will of the person that’s been infected? But I don’t doubt that it’s legit deadly.
Interesting point you raise about Pan having possibly given GOAT orders to not shoot Hook. If that were the case, I’d assume it was because he knew that Hook would be bringing Emma to NL, so basically, Hook is just another of Pan’s unwitting pawns. I think Hook is being genuine in his actions to help save Henry. That kid is Milah’s grandson, after all. We should see him being plenty piratey in the past though.
Anyway, I have a hope (howbeit ever fanciful) that Neal and Hook will put aside their powers of wooing Emma in favor of helping her find Henry. I want to see some authentic camaraderie rather than a rivalry. I fully admit this may be wishful thinking on my part. I just don’t what a love triangle to be the only reason for showing Hook and Neal scenes together. I want a good amount of on-screen CaptainFire brothers-in-arms against a common enemy. Both survived and escaped NL before. If they combined their knowledge towards a common purpose, they could be a huge asset to Emma and everyone else in saving Henry.
Yeeeessss, please let there be some of this stuff!!!!
And you just know at the root of all the this the Blue Fairy is standing there like Dr. Evil.
Because I can’t resist some Sneaky Fairy crack…she actually set up Belle’s part fairyness, and her ending up with Rumple, because even though Blue was using Rumple as a pawn in the grand, “restore magic to all the worlds” scheme, she wanted him to turn out OK in the end, so Belle had to be who, what and where she was in order for her to end up with him. Which means that Blue sneakily set Tink up with Mo, and then chastised Tink for having been with Mo, just to cover her own arse. (I’m only half joking. :-P)
