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I think that if Hook had lied to Emma for her own good, and maintained that lie through decades of marriage until his deathbed confession, that people would be pointing to it as proof of a toxic relationship.
Depends on the lie, who’s doing the lying, and their intent for doing it. Belle’s not known for lying with malicious intent so I’m inclined to believe that her heart was in the right place when she kept the true meaning of the prophecy from him, and as such I’m not inclined to judge her for it.
[adrotate group="5"]I’m just gonna say that this was the best ep the show has had in years. It wasn’t perfect, there’s stuff I can nitpick, but my major takeaway from this ep is that it was actually about the characters. It actually made me feel something because I believed what the characters were feeling. And that’s a feeling I haven’t had after an ep of this show in a good long while.
I’m kind of annoyed that they haven’t been writing this well the whole time. Why did they have to put us through the last several seasons of nonsense plots and stupid random magical watzits and people acting woefully out of character, when they had the ability to write something like this instead?
I’d like to think it was hearing his name, just for the sake of consistency with him remembering in the original Curse when he heard Emma’s name. Things happened pretty fast after she said his name, so it’s hard to say exactly what it was that triggered his memories.
Also: what’s a guardian? who’s a guardian?
a magical person maguffin so that Rumple has to stay the dark one and can become a shady villain when they need him
I’m with you on the magical person maguffin, and did roll my eyes because here we go again with another mythic sounding title for someone/thing that sounds so important they really should have been mentioned way before now if the writers weren’t just pulling something random out of their…hats.
But I think the actual purpose of it is so they can actually lay the Dark One to rest by the end of the season. The power won’t be passed on to a new Dark One, so they can really, properly close the book on Rumple. He can find a way to die, and also rid the world of the tyranny of there being a Dark One as well, thus having him achieve something heroic. The Dagger will still exist, so darkness will still exist, but as long as the Guardian has it, it can’t ever be used again.
That way, if the show ends, that myth of the Dark One gets resolved with a nice, neat bow on it. And if by some chance they end up with a season 8, they can have the new big bad steal the Dagger from the Guardian and try to use it.
As for who it is, I dunno, but surely Rumple sending Alice after Henry to stop him from changing the course of a particular story must have something to do with it.
I definitely think Ivy is going to go after Henry just to spite Jacinda. I couldn’t tell if she was being genuine with Henry, or just playing him. But I definitely think she will go after him. Whether she develops true feelings for him remains to be seen.
I’d love it if she was just playing him to make Jacinda’s life suck a bit more. I suspect there is actually a tiny bit of genuine interest considering how Henry actually sat and talked with her, but I’d like it if she was exploiting that to drive a wedge between him and Jacinda. If anyone needs me, I’ll be cowering under the desk from the encroaching ship war.
My big question is who was she texting so consistently all day long? This episode established that she has no friends, yet she was constantly on that phone. I’m gonna guess…crazy lady in the tower has a secret phone stashed under her bad wig.
At first I thought the chess board was a red herring but when the shot paned close to the black rook, I thought, “Nope, she’s definitely Rogers’ kid.”
Meanwhile, I’m still over here in the corner on my lonesome giving that chess board some side eye, because it did almost feel TOO obvious IMO.
The thing about his daughter having been locked up, but he could still visit her, and then the rook (tower) piece…that stuff just doesn’t jive with Alice’s typical story, but it does fit with another well known fairytale. So maybe I’ll end up being wrong, but for now, as far as I’m concerned the jury is still out.
If we didn’t know that we ARE getting a new Rapunzel, then I’d be more inclined to accept the end of this ep as a confirmation. It’s just, with those bits of info that WishHook dropped, and how perfectly they match up with a character that we know we’re gonna be getting, that’s why I can’t quite buy that his daughter is Alice just yet, when I know that Rapunzel is waiting in the wings. I’m thinking that the chess board was a red herring for the general audience who aren’t into spoilers and have no idea that Rapunzel is coming. If all those people start believing that Alice is the daughter, then the reveal of his actual daughter would be a great curve ball to surprise the audience. Maybe I’m giving the writers too much credit for being tricky though.
By the end of Once Proper, I was in the camp that didn’t even want RumBelle back together. After all the lies, and all the crap he’d put her through, I just wanted her to move on and find someone better who deserved her, (even though I knew that wouldn’t happen, because Beauty and the Beast need to be endgame). But this episode totally won me back over to Team RumBelle and just about made me burst into tears.
The fact that he stopped using the Dagger, actually actively tried to throw it away, THANK YOU FINALLY. In a perfect world we’d have seen him get to that place over the last few seasons instead of all the nonsense they had him doing, but at least he got there in the end. I almost lost it when he was shoveling dirt and lifting stones to build their house by hand! He actually became a decent, trustworthy human being, and I’m not mad about Belle ending up with him now, having seen how many years they lived a simple, peaceful, happy life.
My only real quibble is that their house seemed kind of remote, and I’d hope that they didn’t just have each other for company for all those years. Sure, Rumple thinks that people in general can be unbearable, but Belle needs to socialise. But I’m gonna assume that there’s a town nearby, because they certainly didn’t make all that furniture themselves with their own two hands. They must have gone antiquing somewhere nearby. And there was also totally a secondhand bookshop that Belle just adored. Maybe she volunteered there, doing story book readings to groups of little kids over the years.
I enjoyed seeing them still dancing in their little living room even when Belle was old and grey. Having him catch her as she fell after opening the curtains was the PERFECT bookend for their story.
I’m so torn on the timeline. On the one hand, I really appreciated that we got ACTUAL numbers of years mentioned, to give us a sense of exactly what point in time of their lives we were looking at. On the other hand, trying to reconcile the passages of time that Belle referenced with the ages of the other characters kinda make me wanna curl up into a ball and sob.
Right now, with no information, i am going with Drizella killed Anastasia accidentally because Anastasia was the favorite daughter and Drizella was not.
Considering what both Adelaide and Gabrielle said in that EW article, I could believe that Drizella’s responsible in some way for her death. Adelaide does imply that at the time of that interview she didn’t actually know all the specifics, but both actresses seemed to be on the same wavelength of Anastasia having been the favoured daughter in a major way.
Yes. They definitely know each other. He searched her out and she basically told him he had a lot of nerve showing up after what he did to her.
The vibe I got from that exchange was that in the recent past she’d recruited him to do something piratey for her, like stealing something for her, and instead of giving it to her, he made off with the goods himself. Or something like that. That’s the kind of level of familiarity I got from them. I didn’t get a we’ve-engaged-in-coitus-and-made-a-baby type of vibe between them. But maybe that’s just me, or maybe the actors themselves didn’t even know all the details to they played the scene strangely?
Could Alice be a granddaughter ? I’m not sure how time stuff works….
Well I was convinced that Alice was a RumBelle baby, but with this new information about the rest of the (mortal members of) the family having advanced in age, yup now I’m thinking she’s a RumBelle grandbaby. Which then begs the question of who her mother is.
This is gonna be sad, but I think it works well for the character, considering her husband is immortal so this was always gonna be a big issue for them. I do #hope that we get to see Belle at several different points in her life and they don’t just skip straight to when she’s old and grey.
Are we supposed to believe Ella’s guilt about the death of her step-sister is so strong that she would really help her step-mom murder someone just after she learned her father had been murdered by that snake? I don’t think so! Snow White would never have tried to murder an innocent even if it meant bringing Daniel back to life. Snow wouldn’t even take an innocent life to save her own mother from death.
This sums up my issues pretty well I’d say. They’ve set up Henry and Ella to be the next Snow and Charming. Which is fine, I don’t mind that. But it invites us to compare FlashbackElla to FlashbackSnow, and Ella just isn’t stacking up by comparison right now.
