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If Eric is still alive in present day, then I do think he’ll be in SB, just because I don’t imagine that NL is populated by a great many regular people. If he and Ariel fell in love in FTL, what reason would there be for them to go back and live in NL? And what other reason could have taken him there? Hook went there specifically to have enough time to plot revenge. Lost Boys get taken there by PP. Doesn’t seem like the type of place a regular human like Eric would go to unless they had a very specific reason.
The thing with having him in SB though, is that it means adding even more to the cast. Once we get back to SB, we’ll be wanting to re-connect with the people there who we already know, and trying to include Eric with everyone else, I just dunno. We’re already gonna have Robin added to the already known SB crew of Belle, Granny, (hopefully) Red, Archie, Whale, the Dwarves, etc. And they’ve said that they don’t plan to introduce any more major characters right now, apart from those who had already been announced. Taking that into consideration, I suspect Eric may only be seen in flashbacks.
[adrotate group="5"]I think most of this season will be all about non-ship things, which I am definitely mostly looking forward to also. I have my ships but it’s not why i watch the show. I love finding out about the characters and watching them develop.
Yeah, judging by what they were saying at CC, it sounds like there’s some juicy, character examination and development stuff going on with everyone. Of course, that ultimately affects how they interact with others, so it has a flow on affect for shipping stuff, but I think the main focus will be on each character finding their true selves.
I have arrived, and even come bearing my own bottle of rum, because my fave rum is made here in Australia and hardly any of it gets exported, so it’s impossible to find elsewhere, and the raft MUST have Bundy Rum. *takes a swig from the bottle*
Anyway, as I was saying just before in the casting call thread, if Eric being recurring = Ariel having a significant role (beyond the 2 eps previously confirmed), then it’s likely that her history will be shown in more than 1 episode. So I think it’s entirely possible that Eric could be “recurring”, and still be in the past.
*Sings* Yo, ho, haul together, hoist the colours hiiiiiggghhhhh….
Oh well, at least this kinda confirms that Ariel won’t be in 2 episodes due the fact that Prince Eric will be recurring and it is kinda hard to imagine that Prince Eric is recurring and Ariel is not.
Indeed! If he’s recurring, then I’d say her role will be significant. Which brings me to…
*puts on crackshipper goggles*
If Ariel is gonna be significant in present day, it probably means we’re gonna see parts of her history in multiple eps, which could be why Eric is “recurring”, because he’ll be in multiple flashbacks over the course of Ariel’s storyline.
*takes off crackshipper goggles*
😛Would have been nice to get a bit more description of him. At least we’ve had clarified that Liam in 305 won’t be Eric, though.
I’m really curious as to whether they will stick closer to the original story or if they are going to mainly pull from the Disney version, or perhaps something in the middle with stuff of their own tossed in.
I really hope they have a little from each version, plus their own spin on it. The Disney version wouldn’t even exist if not for Anderson’s version.
AKA: we’re all completely wrong about what we think is going to happen.
First rule of being a Oncer: no matter how many awesome crackpot theories you come up with, you’ll only ever guess right approx 2% of the time. 😛
I’ve wondered before if perhaps she could have begun living with the Lost Ones at some point. That would give her inside knowledge that could help the JR6. Even if she didn’t live with them, but lived somewhere nearby, she’d know the current lay of the land, and may see them with Henry, which again, could be used to help the JR6. The version of headcanon that has her living with them, also involves her having known Bae during the time he was held there, so when she finds out that Henry is Bae’s son, she’s emotionally invested in helping to free him.
Love that K&H wrote this one themselves. They must have something major in mind for Ariel that they wanted done in a specific way.
If Rumple did get the squid ink himself rather than getting a mermaid to do it then the mermaids must hold him in high regard as the dark one not to kill him. Charming and the others aren’t going to be so lucky.
They could still hold him in high regard even if he didn’t get the ink himself. Maybe he didn’t have to go out of his way to trade for it, maybe they were happy to do him a favour and get him some, especially if he gave them some story about how he was gonna use it against a nasty human. The way I interpreted, “impossible to find, unless you’re a mermaid…or me” has always been, “impossible to find, unless you’re a mermaid…or someone like me who has mermaid connections and can therefore get anything he bloody well pleases, even if it’s something only mermaids can get to.”
Also if the JR6 has a bad experience with the mermaids upon entering Neverland, then when Ariel shows up, they may think she’s just like the other mermaids and be very hostile to her.
I think she’s human in present day, so they may not know she’s a mermaid right off the bat. Though everyone on the ship except for Hook will know the story of TLM, so they should be able to figure it out pretty quickly, even if she doesn’t currently have a tail. (Part of my headcanon has been that Hook knew her as a human in NL, but didn’t know she’d been a mermaid, and he’ll find out in present day and it’ll alter how he sees her, due to his predisposition to hate mermaids.) I absolutely think they’re gonna make mermaids nasty pieces of work who drown humans for fun so they can then show Ariel as the exception to the rule. She’s famous for saving a guy from drowning.
This could be a time to explore the idea that sometimes the princess doesn’t get the Disney fairy tale treatment.
And I think that given the source material they have in this particular case, this could be the perfect opportunity to do it. The original version of TLM had such a different ending to the Disney version, and I think it’d be a bit wrong if they just ignored Anderson’s version of the story and only included elements of Disney’s. It would certainly throw viewers for a loop if they didn’t have the mermaid end up with her prince, but they could quite legitimately say, “Read the original, she doesn’t get the guy.”
I could see it be both ways really. If this is a “mini-movie” then it is hard for them to really resolve certain plot lines they have in mind for the series-long relationships, so they might have Ariel and Eric’s happy ending be the bow on the end of this mini-arc.
They could just give Ariel a short arc, but I think that’d be a silly move from a marketing standpoint. Ariel has the potential to recruit a bunch of new viewers, due to her popularity. Only having her on the show for a couple of eps would be a bit of a waste.
The Little Mermaid is the first cartoon I remember ever watching, so Ariel has always been my favorite Disney princess. I’m very excited for her story and am protective of her (as are thousands of fans, I’m sure).
There have only really been two Disney movies that I’ve gone through a hardcore phase for, (all of Disney is wonderful, but there are only a couple of the movies I’ve gone nuts over and watched over and over), one was Aladdin, and the other was The Little Mermaid. I’d dance around my bedroom endlessly, pretending to be Ariel swimming around in her grotto, singing Part Of That World. So I totally get that people would feel protective of her story. It’s because I went through that TLM phase that I’m so excited to see Ariel on the show. I just find Anderson’s version of the story to be just as good as Disney’s, and in some ways more compelling and ripe for OUAT drama.
As much as I like Killian Jones for being a ruffian pirate, he’s a scoundrel who seduced another man’s wife and then challenged a cripple husband to a duel he knew he’d surely lose. He’s also knocked Belle unconscious and tried to kill her. So, that’s not really the type I envision for Ariel or Emma long-term.
We’re yet to see how he became that way, the type of person he was before he became a pirate, and we’re gonna see him trying to change for the better in S3. Overall, I think he’s a complex, damaged character, not a simple scoundrel. One of the reasons I don’t imagine him being with Emma as endgame is because she’s spent her whole life being forced to move around, disconnected from people, and her happy ending would be to settle down in a safe, stable home, surrounded by her family to make up for all that lost time. Killian’s not the type to wanna be tied down like that. His happy ending is sailing around on the JR, exploring and adventuring, just like he and his father had originally set out to do all those years ago. That sounds like a perfect match for Ariel IMO, she’s all about the passion to explore new places, and if Killian can’t fulfill that dream with his father, he’ll need someone else to share the adventure with. Also, because Ariel is one of my all time faves, I’d love to see her stick around and have a connection that ties her in with the main characters. Those are both big reasons that I’m on the Hookriel ship.
Good point. As of right now we know very little about Ariel or Eric or even the mermaids. We know they are casting Eric but so far there hasn’t been a casting call that we know of so we’re all just running on our speculation headcanons.
I’m sorta dying for some casting call leaks for 306. If we don’t get an obvious Eric, then it may be that 305’s Liam is Eric. And I’m just curious in general about what other characters they might cast for Ariel’s debut ep.
Ya know, just a few hours ago, I was looking at mermaid stuff on tumblr, and came across a pic someone had done where they’d replicated the scene of Ariel lying beside Eric on the beach, except it was a merman instead. It could be a good twist for them to use, if they wanted it to remain unrequited, but didn’t wanna marry Eric off to some other princess and just have him reject Ariel for no good reason. Eric’s loved by lots of people, so I can’t see them writing him as being heartless in not choosing Ariel, but if he’s gay, that would be an acceptable reason for them to not end up together.
