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Note: Henry, didn’t come from an Magic Enchanted Tree like Emma did so why would he have magic?
Emma’s magic has nothing to do with the tree, it’s because she’s the product of true love, which is the most powerful magic of all. Rumple’s vial of “true love potion” that he made from Snow and Charming’s hairs is basically a vial of Emma’s DNA. When something is in someone’s DNA, it can be genetically inherited from parent to child.
[adrotate group="5"]Jamie’s outta there…
https://twitter.com/jamiechung1/status/368037866271956992Not all dark powers, just the Dark One Curse and the Pan Curse. Still gotta have dark magic in the worlds to balance out the light magic.
And yes, it would be rather a dark scene for them to show. Unless perhaps Henry’s heart, like his mother’s, is immune? So it’ll be similar to when Cora tried to take Emma’s heart. The daggers go in but it doesn’t damage him, his magic just vaporises the magic that was in the blades.
Crackpot theory that randomly crept into my head whilst watching Manhattan. Wasn’t sure which thread to post it in, because bits and pieces that it takes into consideration are being discussed all over the place right now. Anyway, this assumes that the dagger PP is typically depicted as having will be a thing in the show too, and that it will be a similar type of thing to PP as Rumple’s dagger is to him. It also assumes they are brothers, (so bear with me if you’re not on that team).
Two dagger wielding, dark magic beings.
PP wants to put an end to the dark powers.
PP and Rumple are brothers, so share blood.
As such, it must be someone with that same blood who is the key to ending their dark magic.
Bae didn’t qualify because he had no True Love mojo in his DNA and it’s gonna take magical mojo to get the job done.
Henry qualifies because he has True Love mojo from mom + Rumple and PP’s bloodline from dad.
Double WIN with his genetic makeup means Henry loses out and gets sacrificed. By being stabbed in his super duper Believer heart with both daggers.
Perhaps?You weren’t completely off with guessing 7, KFC. The Dwarves got 7, Men got 9, Elves had 3, (Men were the only ones who became Wraiths though).
What if that is what happens when a “dark one” dies by dagger, their spirit is still controlled by the dagger and stored in an amulet. So Rumpel used his dagger to summon one to mark Regina.
I re-watched Broken the other day and did wonder if there was an actual reason for him raising the dagger and dramatically saying, “The Dark One summons thee,” before stabbing the ground. Apart from it just looking dramatic.
We don’t know how many Wraiths there are, or how many other Dark Ones there have been. I think K&H have said that Zoso wasn’t the first though?
We have only met one previous dark one too though, maybe he can only summon the spirit of the one he himself killed?
I like that idea!
It is kind of curious how we started the season with a flying shadow and ended the season with one as well. Maybe…if Wraiths are previous Dark Ones, Shadows are previous Pans? And Rumple and Peter are each the current holders of the daggers that control the dark magic in each of their lands? So they have the ability to control the Shadow/Wraith of the one who came before them?
I’m wondering if she’s been in Atlanta? Isn’t that where they film The Walking Dead, (she tweeted someone recently that they don’t finish shooting S4 until Nov)? Not an expert on North American weather, but having been to both Vancouver and Atlanta, I’d be more likely to use a hashtag including the word “humidity” in relation to the latter. If so, she’s not getting killed in the Regina ep, (doesn’t rule out her being killed earlier, but I’d think they’ll keep her alive for more than just a few minutes in 301).
It’s been a while since I’ve had a close look at the prophecy…
Seer: You will be reunited with your son, and it will come in a most unexpected way.
Rumpelstiltskin: How?
Seer: A boy… A young boy will lead you to him. But beware, Rumpelstiltskin, for that boy is more than he appears. He will lead you…to what you seek. But there will be a price. The boy… Will be your undoing.
“That boy is more than he appears,” makes me think she’s referencing Henry. I know we haven’t seen PP yet, but from what we’ve heard about him, I’m guessing he’s not the type who tries to hide how powerful he is. In order for someone to be more than they appear, they need to initially appear unassuming. Dunno that that’s a word we’ll be able to apply to PP, but it can most definitely be applied to Henry.
Of course, Rumple was searching for his boy, but that is not all. He was searching his whole life to be respected, to be loved, to be a better man than his father, get a good life, to be brave, to proof himself, to have a family and find happiness, But until now he was not successful
Agreed, this is what, “he will lead you to what you seek,” is all about. Rumple can’t see that as part of the interpretation of the prophecy, because he’s too far gone. That’s why he believes he’s going to his doom right now. He’s lost sight of what he was truly seeking. The only way his eyes can be opened to that is through the Dark One being undone.
Henry is the bait in the trap, for want of a better term. He’s what’s drawing Rumple towards this destiny. “The boy will be your undoing,” may well be referring to PP. I do think that the actual undoing will likely involve some sort of final showdown between Rumple and PP.
Then again, maybe Henry has magic and that will be part of the process somehow? His mother is the most genetically magical human ever, so it wouldn’t surprise me at all if Henry inherited some of that. Maybe it’s something that’s due to kick in once he hits puberty, and that’s why this is the age PP needed him to be at when he was brought to NL?
Whichever of them ends up being directly responsible for the undoing will lead Rumple back to his son emotionally and completely. That being said, I do think Henry has already played a role in leading Rumple to Nealfire. He may not have done it directly, but if not for Henry having brought Emma to town, Rumple never would have even remembered his son, let alone been able to leave town to locate him.
Now there’s a source I hadn’t expected them to go to for inspiration!
Grendel is one of three antagonists, along with Grendel’s mother and the dragon, in the Anglo-Saxon epic poem Beowulf (AD 700–1000). Grendel is usually depicted as a monster, though this is the subject of scholarly debate. In the poem, Grendel is feared by all but Beowulf.
The poem Beowulf is contained in the Nowell Codex. As noted in lines 105–114 and lines 1260–1267 of Beowulf, Grendel and his mother are described as descendants of the Biblical Cain. Beowulf leaves Geatland in order to find and destroy Grendel, who has been attacking the mead-hall of Heorot, killing and eating anyone he finds there. Grendel attacks the hall after having been disturbed by the noise of the drunken revellers. One cryptic scene in which Grendel sits in the abandoned hall unable to approach the throne hints that his motives may be greed or revenge. After a long battle, Beowulf mortally wounds Grendel by ripping his arm off. Grendel dies in his cave under the swamp. There, Beowulf later engages in a fierce battle with Grendel’s mother, over whom he triumphs. Following her death, Beowulf finds Grendel’s corpse and removes his head, which he keeps as a trophy. Beowulf then returns to the surface and to his men at the “ninth hour” (l. 1600, “nōn”, about 3 p.m.). He returns to Heorot, where he is given many gifts by an even more grateful Hrothgar.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grendel
If they’re going to put them together in the future, I think it’d be really good to see them interacting in SB past when he was cursed.
Regina never had a genuine relationship with anyone during the cursed years. However she treated people, good or bad, it was only ever truly one sided. Even if she was giving the relationship her all, like when she went about destroying Snow, she was still really the only one properly invested in the relationship because she was the only one who was actually aware. Fair to say that since everyone remembered, and she has been engaging in genuine relationships, none of them have been overwhelmingly positive.
They could show the flipside of that by putting her with someone who was cursed. They could show the one sided relationship they had, (and by “relationship” I just mean, if they ran into each other one time and had a conversation, I’m not suggesting they were involved during the cursed years), and then show how that relationship can now progress in a positive way for her, as opposed to how it usually goes.
No matter who they put her with, if it’s someone who she interacted with while they were cursed, it provides for a different type of storyline for Regina to learn from and grow through. And if there’s one thing we can agree on, hopefully it’s that we don’t need another season of Regina being stuck and struggling in the same state she was in S2. Not necessarily because we love her and think she should get to be all smiley for a change, but because it’d bog the show down if her character doesn’t actually progress.
