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ParticipantJust had a friend tweet me that they saw that Ch7 will also be showing OUATinWL, so I hunted down the article where it was mentioned:
http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/television/aussies-like-rachael-taylor-shine-in-new-wave-of-us-dramas/story-e6frfmyi-1226650493296#ixzz2Uago4wOBChannel 7, which has scored ratings success with its international titles like Downton Abbey and Revenge, was spruiking its US haul including Resurrection (what happens when the dead live again), S.H.I.E.L.D (a Marvel TV spin-off) and Once Upon A Time In Wonderland, starring Aussie actress Sophie Lowe.
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ParticipantEion Bailey was in my dream last night. Was really random, because I was actually at a concert for NKOTB, and while waiting for the show to start, Eion just happened to walk by and he stopped for a chat and a photo. The dream was actually quite long and involved, but it was all about NKOTB, apart from this one part where Eion popped up. Gotta love when fandoms collide, even if it’s just in your subconscious.
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Participant@RumplesGirl wrote:
Given how young the actress is, she looks to be similar in age to Alice and Cyrus, I’m thinking the Red Queen may have wanted Cyrus for herself but he did not love her so she trapped him in a lamp until Alice freed him. The Red Queen sought revenge on both of them.
This sounds pretty good to me. If she can’t have him, then neither can Alice, so she does everything in her power to separate them.
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Participant@Josephine wrote:
Don’t forget Aurora’s little line about Maleficent trying the same curse on her mother, who may be the original “Sleeping Beauty” in Once lore. We’ll get some Aurora and Phillip, but there is so much else going on with the show that I can’t see them exploring it in detail this season.
Yes, it would be cool if we could get the story of Aurora’s mother, and I say that because really I just want to see some more Maleficent.
If they’re gonna show any of Aurora’s backstory, they’d likely have to do it in the first half of the season, because as RG said, Sarah’s gonna be working on another show in the near future. Flashbacks to Aurora’s mother’s story could be done at any time, because Sarah wouldn’t necessarily be needed if Aurora was younger during that time.
The trick would be tying those flashbacks to a parallel in present day though, to make them relevant enough to show. I’ve been wondering if Hook had met Maleficent in the past, and she’s the one who told him about Regina having Belle locked up. If so, they might be able to connect that all up somehow to create an opportunity to show us some Sleeping Beauty flashbacks. Perhaps.
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Participant@MysteryKat25 wrote:
Oh Jane…I take everything she says with a grain of salt (remember when she said “her” was nobody important as far as she knew? lol). She knows a lot but says that she herself learns new things in the writer’s room all the time.
The “Her” fiasco was the interviewer misinterpreting what Jane had said and repeating said misinterpretation in a later podcast where Jane wasn’t there. Jane never actually said that Her wasn’t gonna be significant.
But it’s certainly true that Jane doesn’t know everything. I suspect she may be privy to some extra details that the other writers aren’t, because she’s one of the major players in the writing staff, but the only two people who truly know it all are K&H.
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ParticipantAh, I remember the days when I was speculating that Snow’s mother ended up as the White Queen, instead of actually dying. Then they had to go and poison her and show her dead body. Spoilsports. 😛
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Participant@RumplesGirl wrote:
Well we don’t know what the deal was, or what Regina wanted. We don’t know if she wanted the squid ink. And, while I think this comment *may* come back up in S3, it could just be a easter egg to Ariel and have nothing to do with anything.
I’ve also wondered if perhaps she was referring to the Siren we saw in What Happened To Frederick. I know she wasn’t technically a mermaid, but if Regina didn’t like her and was snarking on her, she may have used “mermaid” as an insult. I just think there’s gotta be some story as to how Lake Nostos ended up bone dry, and if Regina wanted to get rid of the Siren, that could explain that.
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Yes, I think it can go three ways.
Way 1) Belle and Bae arrive in NL by episode 6, PP is dealt with by episode 11/12 and then we move on to another land
Way 2) Belle and Bae arrive in NL in episode 11/12, then PP is dealt with by episode 16 or 17 (Like Cora) and then we move on.
Way 3) Belle and Bae arrive in NL in episode 11/12, PP is dealt with in episode 21/22 before we move on.
The third one is asking a bit much I think. I’m more in favor of way 2.
The scenario I’m envisioning is closer to (1), but it has PP only having a half-defeat half-victory and thus remaining the Big Bad throughout the rest of S3. It also has the cast returning to SB for the second half the season.
I’m thinking they might have to defeat PP before they’re actually able to leave NL. If so, they could have the plot of Henry’s rescue play out early on in the season, and then spend some more time in NL as they try to figure out a way to actually defeat PP, while still having to keep Henry safe from him. That would all culminate in Rumple vs PP where Rumple ends up undone.
I could see a scenario like that taking up the majority of the season, especially if we have things like Nealfire and Belle arriving in NL part way through, and they take the time to address the various relationships they’re each involved in, and how that would affect the progress of the plan to defeat PP.
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Participant@Gypsy wrote:
I don’t think we will see the fail safe again.
I think it was a one shot deal, like LOST’s fail safe.
That’s pretty much what a fail safe is, a last resort.
Emma and Regina took the power from it, rendering it useless – like Desmond did on LOST.
There are several LOST parallels throughout OUAT, so, I’m thinking this was one of them.I’d be inclined to think the same thing, if not for the shot of Regina picking it up and looking at it after the fact. We don’t see what she did with it, so she may well have slipped it in her pocket, which means it’s with them on the boat. So I’m not ruling it out just yet, because it may be somehow re-programmable and re-useable in their fight against PP, especially if it was originally something of his own creation, which it may have been, considering its purpose was to isolate Henry, which is exactly what PP needed to happen.
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ParticipantOooo, Jafar would be cool to see! Guess that would likely mean that Aladdin and Jasmine would be in the spin off too then?
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Participant@Josephine wrote:
I have a feeling that they decided to just scrap the Jefferson/August connection.
Yep, I’m thinking the same. I think that if they’d meant for it to be a known connection they were gonna elaborate on in the future, that cut scene would have been on the DVD, but it wasn’t.
But then we also have to figure out how August knew Neal was Bae.
My current thinking is that it was THO. Little August would have told people about coming from a magical land, just the same as little Owen was telling people about having seen a magical land. If THO were able to locate and snag Owen, then they were also able to locate and snag August. And if THO is connected to PP and his mission to get Henry, (which they must be, considering GOAT took Henry to NL), then THO also knew about Nealfire, who was destined to be the father of the boy who PP ultimately needed. So THO kept tabs on August, Nealfire, and Emma, until such time as SwanFire needed splitting up for things to play out like they were meant to, then they fed August just enough info to orchestrate that splitting up. Then August wanted nothing more to do with any of them, so he took the money and fled to Phuket, and there he stayed, thinking he was in hiding, until THO sent Tamara to lure him back.
I know a lot of you don’t agree, and Eddy and Adam tell everyone she’s good, but it just keeps revolving back to the Blue Fairy. I don’t care how much they deny it, I think she’s going to be the ultimate manipulator/puppet master in the end. Maybe I’m too much into Rumple, but there’s something shady about those fairies.
My theories about BF being the ultimate puppet master hinged on her having retained her memories during the cursed years. But we’ve now been told that she didn’t, so I don’t hold her in such high esteem any more.
I do still suspect that she’s involved in the writing of the book though. Not so sure that it was written in the literal sense that someone sat down and wrote it all out though. More like the fairies could cast a particular spell that would record certain events on paper as they happened in real life. These stories are called fairytales after all, so it stands to reason if the faires are the ones who “wrote” them.
This would explain how Emma going into the wardrobe was in the book. This was vital information that Henry would need in order to believe, so he in turn could help Emma to believe, so it had to go into the book, but it happened at the very moment the curse struck and there was hardly anyone there who knew what happened. BF may well have gone back to check that the Saviour got away, and so may have witnessed that part of the story, but I don’t think she necessarily had to be there, hovering outside the window to witness it. The “final preparations” could have been that she needed to go cast the spell to record those final moments as they happened, so they’d end up in the book. Then BAM, next thing you know, everyone, including the completed book, are in SB.
That book did eventually have a magical effect on Emma. She’d touched it plenty of times, but then there was the time when it triggered her flashbacks. The Curse hadn’t yet been broken at that point, and Rumple hadn’t yet brought back magic at that point, so does that mean that the book had to have some actual magic in it, like other magical items in town that had retained their magic? If so, that means the book had to have come over from FTL.
So then the question becomes how did BF know that the book would be necessary? It now seems IMO that all of this was really just a way for PP to get his paws on Henry. So if BF was tasked with creating and planting that book, then I think that means she had to be an agent working for PP. Which doesn’t make her the big bad, but it does make her an accessory to nefarious deeds.
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