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@tiara_rose wrote:
Perfect. So neal came first here and then goes.
Which means Neal lied to Emma when he said that our world wasn’t the first place he came to? Why would he have lied about that? There’s gotta be more to this.
@RumplesGirl wrote:
Those EYES. What is that?!
That’s hella creepy is what that is! 😯
[adrotate group="5"]@RumplesGirl wrote:
I agree this is fun. Does anyone remember the BTS shots of young Bae at night near the water. Was Colin there?
You mean the pics where there was a little boat and it looked like it had drifted in a cave, or something like that?
ETA: Here are the pics I think you’re after? http://yvrshoots.com/2013/03/shoot-once-upon-a-times-neverland-at-stevestons-garry-point-park-for-season-finale-2×22.html
@RumplesGirl wrote:
My headcannon of Hook and Neverland goes a little something like this:
1) Hook went to NL as a young man where he became the Captain of the Jolly Roger (why he went to NL, I have no clue but I think we can explore that question in S3)
Hmmm, maybe he was already 2nd in command on the Jolly Rodger, and their Captain took them to NL, and while there he died, and Killian was instantly promoted. Blindly speculating about this stuff is fun, but I’m really, really ready to see what they actually do with it all.
@Kranen wrote:
1) Bae did come to our world first but somehow found a way of getting home. Instead of going back to the EF though, he somehow ended up in Neverland.
Neal told Emma: “It’s a long story. Short version, is this world wasn’t my first stop when I left home.”
2) In The Crocodile, Smee (from memory) asked Hook where they were going when he opened up the portal. Hook replied ‘Neverland!’ indicating that he somehow already knew about it. Maybe he had been there before before, when Bae first came through?
Ah, the debate the divides the fandom, had Hook been to Neverland before or not! I actually wouldn’t be surprised if he’d been there before, because he did seem very sure about where he wanted to go.
Still not sure that it would match up in this instance though.
Milah left with Hook when Bae was, what, 7ish, (I’m crap at estimating kid’s ages)?
Bae went down the beanhole when he was 14.
At some point after that, Rumple killed Milah and then Hook promptly left for NL.
So for Hook to have gone to NL after Bae had, he’d have to have gone with Milah. And Hook knew Bae there. Which would mean Milah would have seen Bae there too. And it certainly didn’t seem like that had happened in The Crocodile when they were discussing her having left Bae.@Demileto wrote:
The point is, we’ll be seeing a flashback on Baelfire’s POV whose focus will be the relationship he had with Hook; it’s possible, maybe even likely, that Hook/Bae had some sort of surrogate father/son relationship when he first arrived at Neverland, which means he lived in Hook’s ship during his first years there. We know, however, that it ended somehow, and finding Wendy as a prisioner of the Captain could very well have been it. Bae releases her, they escape, we get to be introduced to Wendy without necessarily introducing Peter or the other Darling children.
That would be a cool way to work Wendy in on her own!
As for my own headcanon, I’ve dreamed up that Bae knew Ariel both as a mermaid, (sort of filling the Scuttle role from the Disney movie, as the one she questioned about how the human world worked), and as a human, (he’s got experience being around mute girls), which would work with any NL flashback from Bae’s POV.
@KFChimera wrote:
Did she fill out forms and get rejected by “official” channels?
If she did, then the moment they went to check her address, they’d have discovered it didn’t exist on any map. I dunno much about the adoption process, but I’m thinking they like to only give babies to people that they can verify actually exist.
@TimeSpacer wrote:
@KFChimera wrote:
Yes, he made a deal then…makes sense, but with whom did he deal? My first guess was August but he was also awol in Phuket. Could THIS have a tie to the organization of Tamara and Greg!!
Probably not…fun to speculate though !Maybe not. We saw in “Tallahassee” that Emma was already pregnant when August took the money from Neal. He might have stuck around for a few months setting up the adoption before leaving for Phuket.
The package that Emma got in jail had been posted from Phuket. August took the money and ran, then mailed the keys back to her. This is why I don’t get how people can still think that August played some role in the adoption, because I’m pretty sure he had zero interest in setting foot on American soil ever again once he ran away, and he was already in Phuket before Emma even took the pregnancy test.
Guard: Swan, you got mail. Know anyone in Phuket? I’ve got to open this in front of you. Those are the rules. Okay.
(The guard holds up a set of car keys attached to the stolen swan keychain.)
Guard: Look – car keys. Hope you got the car it goes with. Nothing else. No letter. Sorry. But, good news – you get a car when you get out. And a baby. Congratulations.
(The camera pans to the positive pregnancy test in Emma’s hands.)
@RumplesGirl wrote:
I made this point a page back but I think it got lost. Another thing that doens’t make sense. Timeline wise, how does Hook meet Bae in NL when he comes through the bean hole when Hook and Milah were traveling around FTL when they ran into Rumple for the second time, at least a few years AFTER he lost Bae. Timeline issues guys. They are what keep me up at night.
Yeah I wondered that too, but thought it might just be some dodgy wording in the blurb, so am gonna wait and see what actually happens before I lose sleep over this one.
@RumplesGirl wrote:
@KFChimera wrote:
Depends on how they alter Wendy’s story, doesn’t it?
Peter Pan didn’t cut off Hook’s hand….maybe he didn’t fly to the Darling’s window.
Perhaps they arrived in NL some completely other way, then she met Peter after she already had some adventures.Hard to say how they will adjust the tale for Once.
That’s true. I just really want her to be Ariel. 😆
Peter Pan’s gonna have nothing left to do soon if they keep taking his trademarks away from him. 😛 It’s true that they could tweak the story of the Darling kids however they want, and maybe they stumbled onto a portal and wound up in NL all on their own. There are no other Darling kids listed as guest stars though. The guest stars we have listed include Bae, 2 of Hook’s crew, and a mystery girl. No Lost Boys, or brothers for Wendy to share scenes with, just a solitary mystery girl. Ariel is a better fit in my (admittedly biased) opinion.
@Demileto wrote:
@Phee wrote:
Also, we’ve been led to believe that we won’t see Peter Pan this season, and how do you have the Darling kids around if you don’t also have Peter Pan around?
Well, they had Lancelot without Arthur and Guinevere, so I don’t see this as unlikely.
That situation was different though, because that was Lancelot after the Arthur and Guinevere stuff had happened, so they weren’t needed to tell this part of his story. But, assuming Freya’s character will be in the Neverland flashbacks, if Wendy is there, then Peter Pan has to be around at the same time, because she got there by flying with him. If she’s in the present day in SB instead, I’m not sure how Wendy would fit into that, because she supposedly returned to our world quite some time ago.
@daybreak_fairy wrote:
@Phee wrote:
Imdb says he was also in The Crocodile, though I don’t instantly recognise him from a google image search:
That’s the guy that says: “On your feet for the captain.” In The Crocodile promo.
Ah cool, thank you!
@Demileto wrote:
@Kranen wrote:
@Phee wrote:
Curious character name.
I read that and first thing I thought was Wendy Darling?
This is Freya. She looks like Wendy to me.
Oh, won’t that disappoint quite a few people on this board who where hoping for Ariel… 🙂
I’m not giving up on Ariel just yet. The fact that the actress has previously played a girl who uses sign language just seems like too perfect of a fit for a character who will have a storyline involving not being able to speak. “Darling” is such a random thing to use for a name that I’m wondering if it’s just a placeholder of sorts. Maybe there’s a scene where Hook calls her “darling” or something, so that’s what they’re using instead of giving away her actual name. If she was Wendy Darling, then listing her as Wendy gives it away just as much as listing her as Darling, so why not just list her as Wendy? Listing her as Darling is more ambiguous.
Also, we’ve been led to believe that we won’t see Peter Pan this season, and how do you have the Darling kids around if you don’t also have Peter Pan around?
@Demileto wrote:
@bluebutterfly wrote:
Happy ouat day!
One question, weren’t supposed to be 2 girls in this episode or i got it wrong?Pretty sure this spoiler was for the finale. 🙂
From memory, the news of both girls’ casting was leaked at the same time. I thought someone saw them both hanging around set together?
@Kranen wrote:
After taking Mary Margaret’s advice Emma decides to come clean with Neal and admits her true feelings to him;
The shipper in me wants to get super excited about this, but I’m trying not to take the comment as meaning exactly what it sounds like. This must be their scene on the beach.
Hook returns to Tamara to let her know of the magic beans that the residents of Storybrooke have been growing.
Am intrigued to see how this turn of events plays out.
Meanwhile, Baelfire arrives in Neverland that was and meets the vengeful Captain Hook
SQUEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Chris Gauthier as William,
This is Smee, in case anyone else didn’t recognise the actor’s name like me.
Freya Tingley as Darling
Curious character name.
and Ryan Hesp as Quartermaster.
Imdb says he was also in The Crocodile, though I don’t instantly recognise him from a google image search:
@steliokontos1 wrote:
If I were Whale I would go no where near Lacey, actually now that Gold seems like he’s willing to unleash his dark side at any turn if I were a guy in that town if I saw Lacey I’d be running for the hills.
I’m willing to bet that it’s actually Lacey who goes near Whale, in an attempt to bait Rumple’s dark side to come out and play again.
